Wait...I keep getting told there was no fraud

[cow451]

Just like Hillary and Hunter....both obviously caught red handed...but both "get away with it"?

Guess the GOP can't even stack the deck and get it done.

 

[cow451]

So you do not believe that the disabled or the military overseas or the sick in the hospitals have any right to vote?

Trump has indicated they are "losers" so why let them vote?

 

[Speedwell]

Since most people register at the same time they get their drivers license as well as reapply at the same time my assumption is, that making certain the person registering is also the name holder at time of registration, is a moot point as it's already being done.

That's interesting. Do you have any stats? I've moved every few years throughout my life and so have re-registered frequently, but never at a DMV. When I have gotten a new driver's license I never had to prove I was a citizen--now, with "Real ID" it's different, but I don't even have one of those yet. No, there are enough holes in that system to drive a truck through, and it's interesting that the Right doesn't really care.

HOWEVER I do agree, polling place impersonation is a rare event, which is why it's better to show up at the polls with ID in hand..

Especially if it's an ID that some people don't necessarily have and might have a hard time getting.

 

[NerdGirl]

Did you miss the post where it was pointed out the woman was working for a Republican candidate?

That doesn't change the points I was making.

 

[NerdGirl]

3. She was cheating for a Republican. Priceless. It’s really bad when your side can’t even catch a break from O’Keefe. Oh, wait! He’s in on the fraud conspiracy to take down Trump! That’s it! Brilliant! Why didn’t they think of that before?

It never fails, lol.

 

[cow451]

That doesn't change the points I was making.

Just need seven million more.....

 

[GreekOrthodox]

That sucks...

What I have read in other states is that people who wanted to register but did not have drivers licenses might not be able register because there was no good online way to do it. I have friends from major cities like NYC who dont bother with drivers licenses since they can get anywhere they need with public transportation. My wifes grandparents (now deceased) didnt have drivers licenses once they both turned 90. So there's a minority that wouldnt have easy access to voter registration. After surviving the 2008 recession on public transportation and welfare for 3 years myself, its not a fun way to do things when you are used to 2 cars and a house to going to section 8 housing and one shared vehicle with 3 kids. Thankfully and with God's blessing, we built a custom townhouse two years ago and doing very well again Those three years on welfare really changed my perspective on things and how I ended up going from strong conservative to a fairly centrist liberal.

 

[Hazelelponi]

What I have read in other states is that people who wanted to register but did not have drivers licenses might not be able register because there was no good online way to do it. I have friends from major cities like NYC who dont bother with drivers licenses since they can get anywhere they need with public transportation. My wifes grandparents (now deceased) didnt have drivers licenses once they both turned 90. So there's a minority that wouldnt have easy access to voter registration. After surviving the 2008 recession on public transportation and welfare for 3 years myself, its not a fun way to do things when you are used to 2 cars and a house to going to section 8 housing and one shared vehicle with 3 kids. Thankfully and with God's blessing, we built a custom townhouse two years ago and doing very well again Those three years on welfare really changed my perspective on things and how I ended up going from strong conservative to a fairly centrist liberal.

I had to spend a few years in the ghetto in Kansas City myself when I became disabled and lost my land etc over the financial collapse that became my life...

The major thing I found in doing that, was such easy access to various social services that don't exist in rural communities... I was amazed it was so helpful.

As to your freinds in New York, how do they manage normal things in life like their banking and check cashing etc. without a state issued ID in some form? I've not been able to manage life without one in the Midwest for decades. Once I went into the bank to withdraw some money out of my account and found my drivers license had expired the day before... and even though she knew me (small town bank everyone knows everyone) as I'd been banking there more than a decade, she wouldn't give me a dime of my own money until I showed state ID that wasn't expired. Well, I was out of cash so I had to drive to a freinds house borrow 20 dollars, go to the DMV, get a new license, run back to bank withdraw my own money, run back to the freinds house to repay them...

I was angry... lol.. but I never let my ID expire again... I just can't imagine how anyone can do anything in life without it. If you need any kind of social services you have to have ID, if you need to do any banking you have to have ID... etc etc etc

Thats awesome you got your life back on track! Praise God...

 

[wing2000]

Yes, if they aren't in prison, on probation or parole, and aren't a violent felon...

We can absolutely agree on this point. And I'd love to make sure everyone gets to who wants to, legally.

At the same time, I want to make sure the family cat isn't voting, or other potential fraud occurring. To be certain of this, I am a firm proponent of registered voters showing up at the polls ID in hand. (With small exception for the military, people stationed overseas ambassadors and their families etc.)

I'm in favor of issuing a national id card at birth....it would resolve a lot issues imho. At 18, citizens would automatically be eligible to vote....but I suppose that would be too simple. Better to stick with an antiquated 50 state id process....

 

[Hazelelponi]

I'm in favor of issuing a national id card at birth....it would resolve a lot issues imho. At 18, citizens would automatically be eligible to vote....but I suppose that would be too simple. Better to stick with an antiquated 50 state id process....

The bureaucracy loves paperwork...

 

[durangodawood]

Wait...I keep getting told there was no fraud

I keep getting told there's no free lunch.

But I'm telling you, once in a while a free lunch pops up, even if you have to listen to a timeshare pitch to get it.

 

[Speedwell]

I had to spend a few years in the ghetto in Kansas City myself when I became disabled and lost my land etc over the financial collapse that became my life...

The major thing I found in doing that, was such easy access to various social services that don't exist in rural communities... I was amazed it was so helpful.

As to your freinds in New York, how do they manage normal things in life like their banking and check cashing etc. without a state issued ID in some form? I've not been able to manage life without one in the Midwest for decades. Once I went into the bank to withdraw some money out of my account and found my drivers license had expired the day before... and even though she knew me (small town bank everyone knows everyone) as I'd been banking there more than a decade, she wouldn't give me a dime of my own money until I showed state ID that wasn't expired. Well, I was out of cash so I had to drive to a freinds house borrow 20 dollars, go to the DMV, get a new license, run back to bank withdraw my own money, run back to the freinds house to repay them...

I was angry... lol.. but I never let my ID expire again... I just can't imagine how anyone can do anything in life without it. If you need any kind of social services you have to have ID, if you need to do any banking you have to have ID... etc etc etc

Baloney. All you need for banking is an ATM card and a computer.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Baloney. All you need for banking is an ATM card and a computer.

It was a long time ago, no computer yet (that was before schools forced you to have one for the kids to do their homework - that didnt occur until 2000 or 2001 in the rural Midwest) and I never bothered with credit cards or atm cards back then... At that time I was just a nurse, and only used a savings account because the bank was so handy.

 

[Speedwell]

It was a long time ago, no computer yet (that was before schools forced you to have one for the kids to do their homework - that didnt occur until 2000 or 2001 in the rural Midwest) and I never bothered with credit cards or atm cards back then... At that time I was just a nurse, and only used a savings account because the bank was so handy.

Forced? Is the only reason you're here because evil liberals forced you to have a computer?

 

[MIDutch]

And you think that people are rioting for no reason whatsoever then?

We know why they're rioting. It's because they believe trump's lies.

Trump couldn't get a judge to hear the evidence or conduct a hearing. Every case was thrown out before it could be heard.

This is ... untrue.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Forced? Is the only reason you're here because evil liberals forced you to have a computer?

Lol... perhaps you don't know this, but there was a time there were no computers. I didn't get on a computer for the first time until I was in high school. I was struggling a bit in algebra and and the school counselor took me to the math classroom where there was one (our school only had 1) and he showed me a program he wrote for fun - solitaire... lol. He was hoping to encourage me I know...

But I remember thinking at the time if that's the best a computers got, I'd rather use a deck of cards. Lol...

By the time my son was in kindergarten (about 5-6 years after my counselor showed me that game) all schools had computer classes (it was a huge leap in a very short time) and he's been on a computer at school since then. (My daughter as well)

But I didn't have a computer at home.. the kids did everything they needed to do with the computers at school, and if they needed to do homework on a computer, they stayed after school to use the computer lab)

It wasn't until about 2000 (can't remember the exact year now) the school declared parents had to have home computers, and if we either didn't or couldn't buy one and get internet access, the kids couldn't attend school.

It was forced upon many parents... so I had to run out and spend 1,000 or so dollars on a computer and get dial up service for the kids to attend school.

It was my son who taught me how to use a computer and access the internet.

 

[Larniavc]

Can we agree that every American citizen should be able to vote?

Dem: great idea!

GOP: yeah, great.

Silence...............

GOP: anyone think we should re assess the citizenship test? I’ve got a few ideas.

 

[98cwitr]

Call your Congress Rep and have at it.

Already did...Rep and both Senators.

 

[98cwitr]

Dem: great idea!

GOP: yeah, great.

Silence...............

GOP: anyone think we should re assess the citizenship test? I’ve got a few ideas.

I am pretty sure the Democratic Party would rather strike "citizen" and just say "person"

 

[Larniavc]

I am pretty sure the Democratic Party would rather strike "citizen" and just say "person"

GOP: anyone think we should re assess the personship test? I’ve got a few ideas.