Why Is It Bad If I Don't Get Vaccinated?

[Archivist]

Why stop with anti vaxxers? Might as well include those who refuse meds, won't stop drinking, smoking, drugs, eat unhealthy food, engage in sex outside marriage, drive too fast, j-walk, text while
driving, do extreme sports... you get the picture.

And I have said that in other threads.

Btw, i do intend to get the covid vaccine. I am just here standing for the rights of those who won't.

And no one has yet answered my question.

 

[Silly Uncle Wayne]

Bill in New York State Assembly seeks to empower health department to mandate COVID-19 vaccine

Wherever there have been mask mandates there will be vaccine mandates. This isn't surprising. Many vaccines have been mandated for a long time. My family and I don't vaccinate at all so we will not be getting the COVID vaccine. I'm always a little confused as to why this is such a problem for public health. Help me understand. Isn't it the case that:

1. A successful vaccine prevents the vaccinated person from getting sick.
2. Most people will become vaccinated.

If (1) is true, then why does my refusal to get vaccinated threaten public health? I understand that I may be more at risk of getting sick because I forgo a vaccine, but how is it that others are harmed if I am not vaccinated? Does your vaccine no longer work if I don't get vaccinated?

There is a difference between those who choose not to have a vaccine and those that cannot have a vaccine (due to other health issues usually). Those that choose not to have a vaccine are a risk to those who can't have a vaccine.

 

[Blade]

Then you are saying God is mistaken when he said to do as the Government says to do? Did you stop to think the vaccine is what keeps the plague you speak of away from your dwelling? Open your eyes before someone gets hurt.

How can I wrongly encourage when I am going by the word of God with my advice?

You go ahead and teach against the word of God if you like, I can only hope most are intelegent enough to see exactly what the bible says on the issue, and that they will not let the rebels against God and God's government sway them into possible demise.

Hey just a question.. why does this bother you so much? The word says we as believers don't please man.. this is written also. And no believer has a right to tell another believer what GODS word really says and means. I try and obey all mans laws. When it comes to my body.. thinking God gave me a right to say something

Hey you want to take the shot praise God. At some point.. we need to take a stand for Christ not bow to man. Books, TV, Movies, Now Churches.. did we miss all the evil things going on right now? there are some laws that go against the word of God.. we always stand for the word of God. One must know this. You don't agree with some things said there.. praise GOD.. then pray for the but not what you want.. pray good uplifting so forth so on.

 

[JohnDB]

The covid vaccine is evil do not take it! https://twitter.com/trumperwavin/status/1336545701149503489?s=21

Lucifarin....
Funniest fake material I've ever heard of...

 

[mama2one]

"Does your vaccine no longer work if I don't get vaccinated? " asked @Tree of Life



for herd immunity, 70% of pop. needs to get vaccine
vaccine is about 59% effective after one dose & 95% effective after second dose


right now it's deemed safe for age 16 & older so my child can't get vaccine yet

if one is too selfish not to get vaccine when there's no reason not to, hope your conscience gets to you

 

[marc b]

"Does your vaccine no longer work if I don't get vaccinated? " asked @Tree of Life

for herd immunity, 70% of pop. needs to get vaccine
vaccine is about 59% effective after one dose & 95% effective after second dose

right now it's deemed safe for age 16 & older so my child can't get vaccine yet

if one is too selfish not to get vaccine when there's no reason not to, hope your conscience gets to you

ouch, the last line tried to add a sting.

anti vaxxers already stated they believe there is a reason not to, that this vaccine carries risks (real and/or imagined) so refuse to put their family in danger in taking it. And right now with all the rush to get this out the door, it's just as crazy pro vaxxers insists these vaccines are totally safe.

Aren't you just as selfish to insist they risk their children and entire family for the sake of your child?

** I'm not against taking this vaccine myself. I just stand by everyone's freedom to choose with no condemnation from the other side.

 

[RaymondG]

Thats why churches are repeatedly linked to massive outbreaks and deaths right? I know it's not biblical, but the old saying still works, "God helps those that help themselves." if your not going too, why should you expect god to?

I dont expect God to help me.....He just does.......He's a Good Father. yet he doesnt mind how long you waste your inheritance on riotous living, like the prodigal son, or whether or not you spend all your living on physicians first, like the women with the issue of blood......He will still be there to step in when you decide to turn to Him.

I agree, the church leaves some to be desired....but i dont blame anything on them...I start with myself.....And if everyone would work on/examine themselves..the world would be a better place.

 

[RaymondG]

So let me get this straight, you don’t believe in taking any precautions in life to protect yourself? Don’t wash your hands after using the restroom? Don’t wear a seatbelt? And the people who died from COVID all could be alive now if they’d just trusted God more?

Nice try. Again: "Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God."

I dont have any issue with you trusting in men and medicine.....why do you, on this Christian site, have an issue with one talking about trusting in God?

The more time you spend worrying about why others are not saved, the less time you have to spend pondering your own salvation. He who puts his hand to the plow, and then looks at what everyone else is doing....is not fit.

 

[RaymondG]

"Does your vaccine no longer work if I don't get vaccinated? " asked @Tree of Life



for herd immunity, 70% of pop. needs to get vaccine
vaccine is about 59% effective after one dose & 95% effective after second dose


right now it's deemed safe for age 16 & older so my child can't get vaccine yet

if one is too selfish not to get vaccine when there's no reason not to, hope your conscience gets to you

So man, in your mind, is responsible for the safety of all the children? So much for "Jesus loves the little Children"

Do we not know that God is in control of all, and that if He is lifted up, all men will be drawn to Him?

When did we go from praying to God, to preying on the conscience of mankind?

 

[loveofourlord]

I have a syringe... can I inject you with it?

You dont need to know whats in it.

I promise you wont get covid.

(Its drain cleaner by the way)

Get it now?

You may trust the person holding the syringe blindly and the company that put the substance in it.


I dont. Especially when legal accountability has been removed for the sake of speedy output

That's absurd logic, doctors and such are there to help you.

 

[RaymondG]

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[loveofourlord]

I dont expect God to help me.....He just does.......He's a Good Father. yet he doesnt mind how long you waste your inheritance on riotous living, like the prodigal son, or whether or not you spend all your living on physicians first, like the women with the issue of blood......He will still be there to step in when you decide to turn to Him.

I agree, the church leaves some to be desired....but i dont blame anything on them...I start with myself.....And if everyone who work on/examine themselves..the world would be a better place.

I believe in god, I also believe in not challenging him, or using him in place of common sense. God says not to test him, and that's exactly what not taking a vaccine because he will save you sounds like. Many godly people die from the flu, cancer and other diseases all the time.; God is under no obligation to save you, least of all from something you did to yourself.

 

[Sparagmos]

Nice try. Again: "Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God."

I dont have any issue with you trusting in men and medicine.....why do you, on this Christian site, have an issue with one talking about trusting in God?

The more time you spend worrying about why others are not saved, the less time you have to spend pondering your own salvation. He who puts his hand to the plow, and then looks at what everyone else is doing....is not fit.

So is that a no, you don’t wash your hands after you use the restroom?

 

[RaymondG]

So is that a no, you don’t wash your hands after you use the restroom?

I am forbidden to entertain such conversation. When you are ready to discuss spirit and Truth, let me know.

"22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes."

 

[Kenny'sID]

And no believer has a right to tell another believer what GODS word really says and means.

The bible is clear on this, there is no more an interpretation issue than there is with "thou shalt not kill"...it means what it means.

Question) What is your interpretation of the scripture we speak of? I doubt you will answer that question because you know the scripture is clear...we shall see.

Hey you want to take the shot praise God. At some point.. we need to take a stand for Christ not bow to man. Books, TV, Movies, Now Churches.. did we miss all the evil things going on right now?

Who said anything about bowing to man? And this has nothing to do with your list, we are talking laws here. Had you taken the time to read the scriptures you would know God said he put the government in place, so their laws are Gods laws, not mans.

I'll await your answer to the question.

 

[RaymondG]

The bible is clear on this, there is no more an interpretation issue than there is with "thou shalt not kill"...it means what it means.

Are you saying that chirstians should never join the army, self-defense that result in death is wrong and all capital punishment is wrong? Or do you only find alternative meanings when it suits your personal beliefs?

Who said anything about bowing to man? And this has nothing to do with your list, we are talking laws here. Had you taken the time to read the scriptures you would know God said he put the government in place, so their laws are Gods laws, not mans.

I'll await your answer to the question.

Care to provide the scriptures you are referring to, or is it another thing left out because it might hurt your argument?

 

[Kenny'sID]

So man, in your mind, is responsible for the safety of all the children? So much for "Jesus loves the little Children"

Aren't you aware that parents raise their childeren, and parents are "man".

Hello? Man is responsible for the safety of all children.

 

[RaymondG]

Aren't you aware that parents raise their childeren, and parents are "man".

Hello? Man is responsible for the safety of all children.

I thought it was stated plain enough the first time. This is not about raising children. This is about life and death. Is whether they live or die, determined by man or by God.

This was a question for another poster, you have shown us what you believe already.

 

[Kenny'sID]

First, let me say, your arguments are very cose to not even worth the time responding, but ill give you a break.

Are you saying that chirstians should never join the army, self-defense that result in death is wrong and all capital punishment is wrong? Or do you only find alternative meanings when it suits your personal beliefs?

What is my personal belief you speak of? As far asi know, my belife is God's belief, but I'll await you answer.

Care to provide the scriptures you are referring to, or is it another thing left out because it might hurt your argument?

The scripture has already been provided to the poster to which I replied. Its fine if you choose to answer a post meant for someone elsee, but you'll need to gather all the information on that post before you respond. In this case, you will need to go back and find the scripture, and then respond to the post.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I thought it was stated plain enough the first time. This is not about raising children. This is about life and death. Is whether they live or die, determined by man or by God.

This was a question for another poster, you have shown us what you believe already.

It was about the saftey of childeren, to which I included in my reply:

Hello? Man is responsible for the safety of all children.

Now you are just being plain dishonest by trying to change your original comment. Again your arguments/replies are all terribly twisted around in desperate atempt to win the argument, and as I already said, hardly worth responding to, so I'm sure you will understand when I don't.