Hi jermayn,
This thread is really getting too long for my continued participation, but...
You asked a question of me and so I'll answer, as to my understanding.
If no one votes on who they think has never sinned, then why are there so many people using Trump's past sin to make a case against voting for him?
That's bad logic. To say that no one tries to vote for someone who has never sinned, because there is no one who has never sinned. Isn't quite comparative to someone choosing one whose sins they see as less than another's. Bad logic, but nice try.
You also claimed:
They very harshly call out his sin in a way that show's their utter disdain for Trump and anyone that supports him.
That's probably true. I imagine it's just as true as those who support Trump showing utter disdain for those who don't. My uncle, wonderful man who I have had a great relationship for most all of my life, won't even talk to me. A dear neighbor of mine, when I told her that I wouldn't be voting for Trump, immediately turned to me and said, "You're a sad, sad, sad man."
These are both people with whom I have had wonderful and close relationships with in the past.
There's no mention of how to be forgiven of said sins. As I said, just sins thrown in the face of a sinner.
Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I don't really look at or consider Donald Trump as a 'sinner'. I understand that we're all sinners. I look at the nature of the man, as you can check my posts for the last 4 years on this subject. I don't like the man's nature. I don't like the man's leadership abilities. I don't think the man's policies are of any particularly great value. I don't like the man's ego or prideful nature.
To constantly and always be boasting of who he is and the things that he has done and make comparisons that no one else has ever been like him, who has sat in his big chair. To constantly denigrate and name call professional people and other nation leaders. To hurt all of us with this fun little game he's playing with tariffs that honestly isn't doing any of the things that he said they would do. China isn't being brought to its knees. Yes, they've had to deal with some amount of hardship for which they seem to have adapted quite well. Our trade deficit is literally greater than it was 3 years ago when all of this started.
In my estimation, the man is not a good business man. He's filed for bankruptcy protection more time than most other business owners. Many, many of his businesses are flighty and have been closed down by government intervention. Who does that? He literally stole from a charitable foundation of his making. Using the funds for personal gain.
His wall is pretty much a joke. He's built, what, 4 miles of new wall? At a cost of many, many, many billions of dollars. He hasn't balanced the budget nor paid off any of our debt. In fact, those matters are both worse today than they were the day he sat down in the big chair. Our entire nation is at one another's throat over his divisive talk. We've never... let me repeat, never, been in this situation as a nation. Where, just as you have pointed out, there is just sooooo much hate and anxiety over our government administration. His handling of this health pandemic is just abysmal.
He flaunts all of the rules. Taxes. Running and promoting his businesses while in office. Putting his entire family on the government dole. His family goes to a debate in which it is made very, very clear that all of those in attendance as guests are required to wear masks, and immediately upon entering the venue refuse to wear them even when a staff person tries to offer them masks and explains to them that everyone agreed to this. He can't even allow, in the debate, the other person the agreed upon 2 minutes of uninterrupted response time.
You support that? You find this man to be worthy to lead our great nation? A nation that was a lot greater in solidarity and civility before he came into being the president.
Well, I'm sorry, but I don't. It's got nothing to do with, "He's a sinner!!!!!" Pointing my finger in condemnation and asking God to smite his sinning soul. It's just that he's not a nice person. Not a good leader. Not particularly wise or smart. Not really any greater than a lot of other people that make this nation the great nation that it is.
Just thought I'd update this post, since it hits on Trumps ability to follow the rules that the rest of us try to follow: A chirp from Trump’s @realDonaldTrump account posted Monday was plastered over with the message: “This Tweet is no longer available because it violated the Twitter Rules.”
God bless,
Ted