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I wouldn't agree with that. There are gender differences more clear at the extremes and more nuanced toward the center, but I wouldn't say they range from "childlike" to "parentlike."

One old distinction I've noted is: "Men defend the perimeter, women defend the hearth. And both can be incredibly violent in defense of their relative areas."

Remember the mother in California who killed a mountain lion with a kitchen knife...in her kitchen?

People associate gay women with bad experiences more than gay men with bad experiences. I think thats related to women and estrogen.
 
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I'm talking about perception. For whatever reason gay men in the West at least are perceived as more feminine than the heterosexual population. If gay men were viewed more as Ernest Rohm homophobia from men would probably be greatly reduced, lol.
Why do you think toxic feminity doesnt exist as much.
 
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I wouldn't agree with that. There are gender differences more clear at the extremes and more nuanced toward the center, but I wouldn't say they range from "childlike" to "parentlike."

One old distinction I've noted is: "Men defend the perimeter, women defend the hearth. And both can be incredibly violent in defense of their relative areas."

Remember the mother in California who killed a mountain lion with a kitchen knife...in her kitchen?

As an overall theme I think it's true. I have never heard of the news story but if a man was there I'd suspect he'd be more pressured to take on that mountain lion. Motherhood certainly has it's protective elements but it's more of a last defense.
 
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I think homophobia is more related to womanizing than masculinity worship.

How is it womanizing? I wouldn't call it masculinity worship. More like a soldier needing to get back in line and stop acting like a civilian.
 
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Why do you think toxic feminity doesnt exist as much.

It exists, but is more subtle and often in the background. A woman who uses her tears to stir up violence between different men is still toxic even if it's not as easy to point out.
 
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It exists, but is more subtle and often in the background. A woman who uses her tears to stir up violence between different men is still toxic even if it's not as easy to point out.

I think women who say its okay for women to not wear shirts are toxic feminity because they think that there needs to be no gender differences for women and men to be equal.
 
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Someones sexuality has nothing to do with their relationships with other people.

In reality maybe. Like I said before, homosexuality is often viewed under an effeminate lens at least in this culture. When a man bashes a gay person, it's often to do with him acting feminine.
 
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I think women who say its okay for women to not wear shirts are toxic feminity because they think that there needs to be no gender differences for women and men to be equal.

Eh, for you. Personally I don't really care about issues like that. More the accountability gap between the genders and feminists trying to downplay men's problems and twist everything to magically turn into female problems.

It just reeks of our base evolved psychology. Something those who claim to challenge gender roles shouldn't be doing.
 
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Eh, for you. Personally I don't really care about issues like that. More the accountability gap between the genders and feminists trying to downplay men's problems and twist everything to magically turn into female problems.

I agree with feminists that toxic masculinity exists with dating.
 
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I agree with feminists that toxic masculinity exists with dating.

I'm not denying the existence of toxic masculinity. Men commit more violent crime than women. Something which is probably impossible to change. As a man I don't find shame in that, just a predictable outcome of being part of a sex that is one that is expected to get things done and mold the world.

If men were to somehow be phased out, toxic masculinity would evolve within women. The behavior is inevitable in this sandbox and careless universe.
 
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I'm not denying the existence of toxic masculinity. Men commit more violent crime than women. Something which is probably impossible to change. As a man I don't find shame in that, just a predictable outcome of being part of a sex that is one that is expected to get things done and mold the world.

If men were to somehow be phased out, toxic masculinity would evolve within women. The behavior is inevitable.

Why do you think people dont have three genders?
 
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I'm not denying the existence of toxic masculinity. Men commit more violent crime than women. Something which is probably impossible to change. As a man I don't find shame in that, just a predictable outcome of being part of a sex that is one that is expected to get things done and mold the world.

If men were to somehow be phased out, toxic masculinity would evolve within women. The behavior is inevitable in this sandbox and careless universe.

So you think gender is an abstract complex concept? I dont think women can truly be masculine.
 
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Why do you think people dont have three genders?

I honestly don't know what a "third" gender is. I really only believe in the male and female and the mix in between. If someone wants to call that mix a "third" gender they can, personally I think the term is bizarre.
 
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In reality maybe. Like I said before, homosexuality is often viewed under an effeminate lens at least in this culture. When a man bashes a gay person, it's often to do with him acting feminine.

Why do you think men arent homophobic towards gay women
 
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So you think gender is an abstract complex concept? I dont think women can truly be masculine.

I think it has more biological roots than some would like to think. Although in the end it might just be an abstract no matter the reality of averaged differences.

I think some women can be very masculine inside and out, and I don't have a problem with that. People should be themselves, anything else probably develops a dysphoria type feeling.
 
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I honestly don't know what a "third" gender is. I really only believe in the male and female and the mix in between. If someone wants to call that mix a "third" gender they can, personally I think the term is bizarre.

Do you think people say that transgenderism is a sin and that androgynous behavior draws undue attention to gender because they draw undue attention to whats off limits?
 
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I think it has more biological roots than some would like to think. Although in the end it might just be an abstract no matter the reality of averaged differences.

I think some women can be very masculine inside and out, and I don't have a problem with that. People should be themselves, anything else probably develops a dysphoria type feeling.

How does that factor in in the biological sense?
 
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