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Or you mean gender as a complex abstract complex?

Infertile people are still male or female because of their anatomy, regardless of sperm and eggs or giving birth.

Yeah, I don't really feel like delving into that topic. Other than to say, biology isn't always black and white, lol.
 
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A neotonous looking male doesnt have the childlike appearence that females have

Yeah he does. A man with a low brow ridge and a softer jaw is going to look more child like than a woman wit ha higher bridge and stronger jaw.
 
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Yeah, I don't really feel like delving into that topic. Other than to say, biology isn't always black and white, lol.

Was what I said about sperm and eggs and giving birth wierd?

Why does eggs equal the longer word female and sperm equals the shorter word male?
 
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But there is a certain parentlike look that they have even if its subtle.

I'm more talking about extremes here. There are men who receive more female benefits in society and women who receive more male benefits.
 
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Was what I said about sperm and eggs and giving birth wierd?

Why does eggs equal the longer word female and sperm equals the shorter word male?

I have no idea what you mean here.
 
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I'm more talking about extremes here. There are men who receive more female benefits in society and women who receive more male benefits.

Is this related to what you said about homophobia isnt really misognyny? I dont think homophobia is misognyy i think its sexist against men because people dont say the feminine equivalent of the slur thats so gay.
 
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It's also a question of words.. I just don't really care to get into that subject.

Is this similar to people who say andrognous behavior draws undue attention to gender?

I think they mean that that kind of behavior draws undue attention to whats off limits.
 
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It probably does happen in some form, just makes less sense for this to be as common an occurrence than you see with men. The reality is that biologically men are more expected to be the protector/provider. Even within feminist circles this is often the case, sometimes more-so than the more conservative circles.

What does someone sexuality have to do with them not being a protector or provider?
 
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Is this related to what you said about homophobia isnt really misognyny? I dont think homophobia is misognyy i think its sexist against men because people dont say the feminine equivalent of the slur thats so gay.

I think we're all over the place now, lol.

But yeah I agree it's more sexism against men. Society more easily deals with women acting like men than vice versa.
 
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Is this similar to people who say andrognous behavior draws undue attention to gender?

I think they mean that that kind of behavior draws undue attention to whats off limits.

I think we're on different pages here.
 
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What does someone sexuality have to do with them not being a protector or provider?

I'm talking about perception. For whatever reason gay men in the West at least are perceived as more feminine than the heterosexual population. If gay men were viewed more as Ernest Rohm homophobia from men would probably be greatly reduced, lol.
 
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I'm having a little trouble falling what you are trying to say.

Really in my mind feminine is really just "childlike" while masculine is more "parent" like.

I wouldn't agree with that. There are gender differences more clear at the extremes and more nuanced toward the center, but I wouldn't say they range from "childlike" to "parentlike."

One old distinction I've noted is: "Men defend the perimeter, women defend the hearth. And both can be incredibly violent in defense of their relative areas."

Remember the mother in California who killed a mountain lion with a kitchen knife...in her kitchen?
 
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