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Let's clarify a few things so there is no confusion here Bob as you seem to be only part quoting me here in what I have been sharing with you. In post 499 linked (not 399) I wrote this (below) in relation to 2 CORINTHIANS 3:3..In post# 399 LGW wrote; (Note: I used the bold and blue on the part that, in fact, LGW did write that it is the ten commandments that is written in our hearts. In his last post he denied writing exactly what he now denies.) LGW' post #399
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2 CORINTHIANS 3:3 "[3], For as much as you are manifestly declared to be the letter of Christ ministered by us, WRITTEN NOT WITH INK, BUT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD; NOT IN TABLES OF STONE, BUT IN FLESHY TABLES OF THE HEART.
Note: in [v3] that Paul is stating that the Corinthians here are letters of Christ ministered by Paul and his companions “written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone (reference to the 10 commandments) but IN the fleshly tables of the HEART! Pauls reference here is to Gods new covenant promise of JEREMIAH 31:31-34 repeated by Paul in HEBREWS 8:10-12 [10], FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT that i will make with the house of israel after those days, said the lord; I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR MIND, AND WRITE THEM IN THEIR HEARTS: and I will be to them a god, and they shall be to me a people."
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Please pay attention to the whole quote and the sections in red (my emphasis). This was in reference to 2 CORINTHIANS 3:3 and the TABLES OF STONE written in the scripture in v3. Do you know what that tables of stones are Bob? That is in context that to 2 CORINTHIANS 3:3 that the TABLES OF STONE are in reference to the 10 commandments. The rest of this section of my post went on to clarify what I said by saying from the same section you conveniently left out...
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"So the context here is the ministration (Paul and his companions being the ministers) of the new covenant Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ of which the Corinthians are examples who have been given a new heart to love God and walk in his commandments which is the new covenant promise of JEREMIAH 31:31-34 repeated by Paul in HEBREWS 8:10-12 and HEBREWS 10:15-17."
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Kind of not saying what you are trying to say now is it Bob?
Your referencing...LGW's post #505
The above quote is in perfect harmony with the rest of the context you left out above trying to claim things I am not saying. Your problem here is that your trying to separate love from law. This is not biblical as God's love is expressed through obedience and harmony to God's law. Love to God and man is what motovates us to keep God's commandments. No one loves God by breaking God's law. You try and swing the argument around to try and say that we believe God writes his law on our heart divorced from love. No one is saying that to you Bob or believes that we keep Gods law without love. This is simply your strawman and that is what I was referring to when I wrote the above. So why try and pretend I am saying things I am not? Perhaps you have had a misunderstanding in relation to the above. That is ok. I hope this better clarifies what I was sharing with you and there is no more misunderstandings.LoveGodsWord wrote: Well that one baffles me to as I have said no such thing to you. I said God gives us a new heart to love and it is love that establsihes God's law by faith and quoted *MATTHEW 22:36-40; HEBREWS 8:10-12; ROMANS 13:8-10; ROMANS 3:31; ROMANS 8:4 as scripture evidence that is in fulfillment of God's new covenant promise from JEREMIAH 31:31-34 and HEBREWS 8:10-12.
Hmm what??? sorry Bob I have not purposely done anything. What is your problem here? Sorry Bob I am not following what your saying here so not able to respond. Did you wish to clarify yourself and explain yourself a little better? I am happy to respond. I just do not know what your referring to as you have not really been able to address much if anything in any of my posts and scriptures shared with you.Bob wrote: LGW truncated what I wrote to this: (note: he purposely omitted the facts I presented
Actually no Bob, if I state I disagree with you on scripture interpretation or subject matter, by prayer and God's Grace and guidence, I will go through your claims of interpretation of the scriptures section by section and scripture by scripture to show why it is that I disagree with you by adding the context back you leave out as proof of interpretation and also provide other scripture evidence supportive to subject matter. This is only done as a help to the conversation and nothing more dear friend. As posted earlier no one is "UNDER THE LAW" according to ROMANS 3:19 unless they stand before God guilty of breaking God's law (sin). No one is saved by the law. We are saved by God's grace through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8-9. The purpose of God's law is to give us the knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil, sin and righteousness *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4 and to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *GALATIANS 3:22-25 and free to walk in God's Spirit to love *GALATIANS 5:16.If that is not the poorest way of debating an issue I would like to know one worse. How can anyone give any credence to what LGW writes?
He uses words like "nonsense", "not really" and pats himself for his "superior" posts by writing "Sorry Bob, it seems Gods Words disagrees with you." All this to make the opponent's statements seem trivial or worthless.
All I can say is that I have taken an honest approach by using scripture, in context, to prove what I have gleaned is the real truth. The Plan of Salvation is simple and we are following the Truth if we believe in the One God sent to earth and taught us to love one another as He loves us. I do not see in His Plan of Salvation anything that would indicate that Christians are under any law to keep the rituals given only to the now defunct nation of Israel. Furthermore, I believe the tree Christians are grafted into is Jesus not a nation that broke God's covenant in every way possible and is no longer.
Hope this helps Bob.
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