People act on attitudes, and you don’t leave prejudices or racism at home.
Can you prove that people
always act on their attitudes, and
never leave prejudices or racism at home? What kind of evidence can you provide to support that assertion?
Are you sure you are not projecting your own weaknesses onto others?
Let’s say you had a babysitter that to your knowledge was doing a fine job taking care of your kids. But then you saw a social media post where the babysitter expressed attitudes that sexualized children. Would it be fair to assume the babysitter’s attitude about children could affect how they treat your children? Would you feel comfortable continuing to employ that babysitter?
If you have to use an example that is both extremely improbable and atypical of the majority of workplaces, then that is a fairly good indication that your case is very weak.
Your babysitter example is extremely improbable because although child abusers often use social media to directly message potential victims, your suggestion that an abuser would publicly state their interest in children on a social media account that their friends, relatives, and customers might see is so improbable as to be quite ridiculous. Even the most foolish of abusers would realise that to do so would likely result in an unannounced visit at dawn from law enforcement to seize and inspect their digital devices.
Your babysitter example is atypical of the majority of workplaces because most people do not work in roles that involve caring for children or vulnerable adults. And in countries that take the protection of children and vulnerable adults seriously, there are extensive safeguarding measures, such as criminal records checking, to try and minimise the potential for abusers to exploit a position of power.
Obviously nothing in your example applies to the majority of workers, because most people work in environments where everyone is an adult, and therefore capable and mature enough to look after themselves and report inappropriate behaviour.
You make a good point. So choose from any of the things that are not illegal that people get fired for all the time as an example that there is such thing as gross misconduct.
Here in the UK, I think people generally get fired for engaging in activities that harm the employer's business. Examples would be assaulting or sexually harassing others in the workplace, fraud or theft, misusing the employer's official communication channels or IT systems to harm the business. I'm not a legal expert, but I think most, if not all of those examples are potentially actionable from a legal perspective. Either because they are crimes, or because they could result in a lawsuit against the employee for defaming the employer.
If people are posting comments that some people find offensive on their private social media outside of work time, then that is clearly not harming their employer's business, because they are not acting in an official capacity representing the business. Although if they posted such comments during work hours when they should have been working then that could be actionable as a minor disciplinary matter. And if they repeatedly engaged in private pursuits at work that could eventually lead to being fired.
I’m not complaining that people don’t agree with me, only that I would have to repeat myself.
What can I say? If you responded with watertight arguments then I wouldn't be here. But you don't. And the worst of it is that you appear to be projecting your own weaknesses onto others, when you say that people are incapable of leaving their personal views at home and acting professionally in the working environment.
The first amendment only protects you from government censoring of speech, it doesn’t apply to your employer so I’m not sure why this is relevant.
It is relevant because if the First Amendment doesn't apply to your employer, then it should do. Why should an employer have control over what you do in your own personal time when you are not at work? It is none of their business, unless you attempt to pass off your own personal views as the official views of your employer. Some people don't like Christian moral standards, and consider them offensive. Should it be a matter of gross misconduct to bring a Bible to work, and read it during tea break where others can observe what you are reading?
There are still consequences to speech, and conservatives have always defended the employers right to fire people without just cause. It’s the law of the land, with the exception of 2 or 3 states, that an employer can fire you without cause. “At will.” Judges have upheld that in court repeatedly. So I’m not promoting anything that’s not in line with the law or the opinions of many judges upholding the law.
You blame the conservatives, but you seem happy to be able to exploit the ease of firing people to inflict extra-judicial punishment on people who express opinions you don't agree with in their own private leisure time. That smacks a little of double standards.
I AGREE! That is why I support just cause protection for all workers. Right now it is perfectly legal to fire people without cause and without a second chance. Do you support laws that would allow people that second chance and the opportunity to contest a firing due to a social media post?
Employers should always need a good reason for firing employees.
Although I'm puzzled by your response, because you claim you want better protections for employees, but you don't seem to mind when activists launch a Twitter hate campaign and doxxing operation to try and get someone fired for personal comments. In fact, in some of your earlier posts in the other thread you seemed to enthusiastically support it. Are you finally softening your views and realising that the kangaroo court of Twitter is unfair, vindictive, and unchristian?