How much longer will growth of Antarcic ice save our coastlands?

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A lot of ice has been melting off the land based Greenland Ice Sheet and the world glaciers so why have we seen so little rise in ocean levels?

Up until now the GROWTH of the Antarctic ice sheet has balanced things out.
"At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory, Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on the HAB Theory.)

"Let us consider Antarctica for a moment.
We have already seen that it is big. It has a land area of 5.5
million square miles, and is presently covered by something in excess of seven million cubic miles of ice weighing an estimated 19 quadrillion tons (19 followed by 15 zeros). What worries the theorists of earth-crust displacement is that this vast ice-cap is remorselessly increasing in size and weight:'at the rate of 293 cubic miles of ice each year--almost as much as if Lake Ontario were frozen solidly annually and added to it." (Graham Hancock, Fingerprints of the Gods, page 480)

The rate of ice sheet growth though on Antarctica seems to be slowing down.

According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008."

NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

So what should we do?

I think that we should forget about the silly Carbon Tax idea. We Canadians produce less than two percent of Global Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Emissions anyway so the logic of why we should burden our businesses and taxpayers with billions and tens of billions in taxes for something that we cannot do much about is terribly illogical.

There is a better way though!

Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

“So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.”

“Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated….”

“The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave….”

“So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive….”

“Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…”

“This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.”

“Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.”

“With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.”

“This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.”

“Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect…”


“We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).”
 
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I wonder can the Australians save us or at least delay the problem for a decade or two?

Australia: A long term solution

Israeli technology can certainly be useful in the next phase.

Cheap Water from the World’s Largest Modern Seawater Desalination Plant

The new plant in Israel, called Sorek, was finished in late 2013 but is just now ramping up to its full capacity; it will produce 627,000 cubic meters of water daily, providing evidence that such large desalination facilities are practical. Indeed, desalinated seawater is now a mainstay of the Israeli water supply. Whereas in 2004 the country relied entirely on groundwater and rain, it now has four seawater desalination plants running; Sorek is the largest. Those plants account for 40 percent of Israel’s water supply. By 2016, when additional plants will be running, some 50 percent of the country’s water is expected to come from desalination.
 
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“So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive

I heard a historical record read, that when the settlers first came to Southwestern Desert, in the U.S.; that the grass was as high as the saddles on their horses.

Regenerative agriculture can nullify Anthropogenic CO2

 
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A lot of ice has been melting off the land based Greenland Ice Sheet and the world glaciers so why have we seen so little rise in ocean levels?

Up until now the GROWTH of the Antarctic ice sheet has balanced things out.




The rate of ice sheet growth though on Antarctica seems to be slowing down.



NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses

So what should we do?

I think that we should forget about the silly Carbon Tax idea. We Canadians produce less than two percent of Global Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Emissions anyway so the logic of why we should burden our businesses and taxpayers with billions and tens of billions in taxes for something that we cannot do much about is terribly illogical.

There is a better way though!
What will save us is Christians waking up and repenting. 2 Chronicles 7:14 It's been pouring down rain in many drought stricken areas recently. I mow the lawn, turn around and it's growing already. OK, slight exaggeration. Many Christians have been fasting and praying. A number of miracles occurred during the terrible bushfires and now those fires are out. Dams are filling and farmers are rejoicing. Greenies will be frustrated. They want to send the world back to the stone age!
 
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So what should we do?

I think that we should forget about the silly Carbon Tax idea.

The air looks and smells a lot cleaner today than it is 20 years ago.

Considering we have a lot more people now....

I think it's an improvement. Let's keep at it.
 
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We Canadians produce less than two percent of Global Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Emissions anyway so the logic of why we should burden our businesses and taxpayers with billions and tens of billions in taxes for something that we cannot do much about is terribly illogical.

By this logic any invidual action to cut your carbon emission is futile because there are 7,7 billion other people so your contribution is basically meaningless.

Of course if everyone thinks so the effect of negligence multiplies and the combined result is overwhelming.

Funny how nobody ever mentions how futile single person breaching gospel is when compared to 7,7 billion people. So we could totally quit it or something ?
 
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What will save us is Christians waking up and repenting. 2 Chronicles 7:14 It's been pouring down rain in many drought stricken areas recently. I mow the lawn, turn around and it's growing already. OK, slight exaggeration. Many Christians have been fasting and praying. A number of miracles occurred during the terrible bushfires and now those fires are out. Dams are filling and farmers are rejoicing. Greenies will be frustrated. They want to send the world back to the stone age!


You are correct.... a powerful case can be presented that the enemies of the USA and Israel see the potential weakness of the USA dollar as the only way to bring down the USA out of her spot of military pre-eminence so some high level people seem to have decided to infiltrate Green organizations in order to wreck the USA economy. An astonishing amount of dis-information seems to have been happening on so many levels.


Unconverted Russia and its influence on the Mideast
1972 - According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”

You are absolutely correct that Christians repenting and praying and turning to our Creator is the key but we also should take a good look at Isaiah 35
because there are so many advantages to deliberately turning deserts green.

The wilderness and the dry land shall be glad; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
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6 Then shall the lame man leap as a hart, and the tongue of the dumb shall sing; for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.

7 And the glowing sand shall become a pool, and the thirsty ground springs of water: in the habitation of jackals, where they lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.


Mr. Carl Cantrell gives an update on his theory here:

I Told You So 287


(Carl Cantrell):

I Told You So 287



Sahara Desert

Remember that I told you about what I call continental drying creating and increasing the size of deserts and that we could and should increase the carrying capacity of the planet by returning water to these drying areas, especially the deserts?

I am not the only one now thinking about this as you can see in this video. The difference is that my plan uses desalinated water as artificial rainfall to control the process, you know, the way God uses rainfall, and their ideas are just flooding large areas with salt water and hoping evaporation will take care of it, you know, kind of hit and miss based on ignorance.

Their idea was tried decades before I was born (I'm 70), it was a terrible failure and my idea was developed based on that failure in relation to science. Yeah, it really helps to learn from other people's mistakes so you don't repeat them.

What they did was they found a desert valley just off of the Nile River in Egypt that had once been a very productive agricultural valley a few thousand years ago and the geniuses decided to flood that valley floor with water from the Nile River to turn it back into agricultural land. Well, all of that standing water just stood there and became stagnant (surprise, surprise) and it turned into a disease infested swamp they ended up having to drain because it was killing people.

That is what the people in the above video are talking about doing except, instead of using fresh water, they are talking about using salty sea water and just kinda sorta hoping that water will either seep into the soil and/or evaporate and return as rain to magically turn the area into a tropical paradise, you know, the ignorance based, simple minded fairies riding unicorns over rainbows thinking.

"Why, if we just do this one little simple minded, ignorance based thingy, utopia will just magically happen...poof!"

Did you know that, without the tides created by the moon and sun, your sea shores will become so stagnant that most life can't exist in the salt water?

What happens is the gravity of the moon and sun cause the waters to rise by drawing in more water called a high tide. As the Earth rotates away from the moon and sun, their gravities pull quite a bit of that water away from our shores, called a low tide, taking quite a bit of the waste deposited along those shores out to sea where it is either processed by organisms at sea or sinks into the mud at the bottom of the ocean, keeping your sea shores clean and healthy.

Now, if you flood a big hole in the ground in the middle of a desert the way they say, I don't care how big it is, there will be no cleaning tides taking waste out to sea because your body of water will be land locked. If you want to see what that will be like, just go to any land locked body of salty water like the Dead Sea or the Salt Lakes in Utah in the US, where there is almost no life. Hint, it ain't going to be no tropical paradise, baby.

If you want to recover these drying continents, especially the deserts, you have to use clean rainfall and running water. You CANNOT use standing or stagnant water because that never works. Even the Great Lakes in North America have a running water flow through that keeps them clean, washing waste out to see via the St. Lawrence River.

Therefore, the common sense and scientifically sound thing is to use desalinated water, pipe it to the tops of "water sheds", which are land areas like valleys where the rainfall runs down towards the same streams and rivers, use old style water sprinklers to generate artificial rainfall that will not only increase the water in the soil but also increase the water in the air, which will decrease heating and drying of the area.

The science behind hydrating the air is a little complex but I will try to keep it simple. Remember this is the nutshell version.

The higher the humidity or water in the air, the less water the air will absorb from the soil, plants and animals and the more sunlight will be reflected back out into space so that less sunlight will reach the soil and be turned into heat, which means the increased air humidity will cool the area. Yes, you will be changing the weather or climate on a local basis from desert weather to a more habitable climate.

Therefore, we need to increase the water in the air around our watershed as well as the water in the soil and the best way to do that is with water sprinklers, which will achieve both goals at the same time.

Now, by using artificial rain on mapped out watersheds, we will be using running water to gradually increase the water in the soil so that water doesn't go stagnant and remains fresh or the soil becomes saturated and causes mudslides, which is a MUST.

You need to do this gradually over a period of at least 3 to 5 years and not just flood the area. What will happen is that, as the water in the soil increases, grass and small plants will grow establishing roots in the soil to prevent erosion and mudslides (grass, not trees, prevent erosion) and begin developing increasing biomatter in the soil so more and larger plants can eventually grow. You start by growing, farming, or developing the soil and the air to where they can support an ecosystem. To work, this has to all be done scientifically and not just ignorantly flooding an area with water.

This increasing water in the soil will begin to build aquifers, which, when their water level reaches the surface, will begin to develop streams, which will grow into rivers and lakes, which will develop riparian areas, for which you may have to introduce species because, in case you have not noticed, there are no riparian areas or species in deserts. Then you will begin to develop grassy fields and hills and, as animals such as birds spread seeds, you will start getting larger brush and occasional trees, especially near surface water.

As the plant life increases, herbivores from surrounding areas will migrate to your project area, which will draw predators to your area, which will do most of the developing of the ecosystem for your area with you only having to introduce a few specialized species like water plants and animals, some of which will be brought into the area by migrating animals like birds, but you will definitely have to introduce things like fish or aquatic animals based on the plant life you see developing in your area.

It is like carving a stone statue, you have to do it one carefully placed hammer stroke at a time and don't just hit it once with a really big hammer.

You DO NOT want to plant any trees for at least the first 5 to 10 years pending the development of the ecosystem because trees use way too much water, would slow the development of the water system in your ecosystem and possibly stop its development. A few trees brought into the area because of seeds spread by animals like birds will be fine.

What you need to grow for those first 5+ years is indigenous grass and small plants to prevent erosion. You DO NOT want to do any farming of any type or herding for at least the first 3 to 5 years pending the development of the ecosystem or it could setback or destroy your reclamation project and you will be right back where you started with a desert wasteland. You have to increase or grow the biomatter in the soil until the soil can handle farming and herding, after the grass lands mature.

This project has to be controlled and it has to be based on science. When you finally do start farming or herding, you want to start with light herding and, if the soil handles that well for a few years, then you can start farming or heavier herding.

Now, before you even begin your project, you have to send in teams of scientists to map out your watersheds so you will know where to run your pipelines and place your sprinklers, especially in relation to trade winds. You need to setup entire strings of wet areas cutting across the trade winds to increase air humidity and precipitation while decreasing sunlight hitting the ground downwind to begin claiming even more of the desert. The "downwind" areas will develop more naturally from the precipitation caused by the increasing air humidity increasing water soil, forming aquifers, streams, rivers, and lakes to grow grasslands.

You will need to study the local plants and animals to know what plant and animal populations will begin to grow as the water and food supplies increase, you have to study all areas within 100+ miles of your project so you will know what plants and animals will migrate to your habitats as the water and food supplies increase, and then you can decide what plants and animals you will need to introduce for your ecosystem to function by making it a balanced ecosystem. What they will find is that they will have to introduce very few species to achieve a balanced ecosystem, mostly aquatic life.

You will need to study the meteorology and geology of your project area so you can monitor changes in soil biomatter and weather patterns for the project area.

Some people have complained that research is showing that waste from desalination plants is 50% greater than they had previously thought, often dumping the chemicals they use for desalination back into the sea, polluting the sea.

That is for chemical and mechanical desalination and not solar desalination. The only waste you will get from solar desalination is the salt and other minerals you will cook out of the sea water with the heat generated by sunlight, which can be returned to the sea or even sold as "sea salt" to health food nuts to help cover the costs of your project and save tax payers and investors money.
...... (Carl Cantrell, continued)......

Here is a somewhat similar idea done in a way that is more politically correct:


How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory
 
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Mr. Carl Cantrell's theory continued:

I Told You So 287

As you can see, this would be much more complex than the people in that video think it would be and require teams of scientists to manage it. Eventually, you should determine seasonal net loss of water for each area caused by evaporation and runoff and that will determine your eventual use of desalinated water, which should eventually decrease and will certainly fluctuate over time. Therefore, the net loss of water has to be monitored forever by scientists, yes, forever.

Oh yeah, you will need more CO2 in the air for all of those plants to grow. Therefore, if you want to reclaim the deserts, you need to increase the CO2 in the air. Think about it.

Well, so much for that climate change bull crap. Hmmm, maybe the increasing CO2 in the air is largely being caused by the expanding deserts decreasing plant life, which converts CO2 into oxygen? So, the best way to decrease CO2 in the air is to reclaim deserts? Gee, who would have guessed?

BTW, this project MUST be managed by honest, credible scientists who won't sell their souls to the devil for financial gain and definitely not by the corrupt, greedy, power mad, scientifically ignorant upper class trash, their political harlots, scientifically ignorant government bureaucrats, greedy universities, or scientifically ignorant and stupid lefty minions, who you know will all find some stupid reason to destroy the program for short term financial gain. I have the utmost faith in these people to eventually screw things up.

Bogus Science

Remember that I have been telling you about bogus science, especially by government owned scientists who sell their souls to the devil and will say anything they have been paid to say?

I got this from American Thinker by Norman Rogers concerning the book "Scientocracy":

"The title of this new book is a play on aristocracy. The science aristocracy is living off its former reputation as honest investigators of the natural world. But now they are largely mean-spirited bureaucrats who don't hesitate to fake science when it serves their bureaucratic and financial goals. The public, politicians, and the media are mostly scientific ignoramuses easily fooled into believing that fake science is rock-solid science. There is an alliance driven by the money-greed of the science mandarins and the socialist dreams of the political Left. It is not an accident that the many ecological catastrophes predicted by rogue science get political support from the Left.

The book consists of 11 essays by prominent whistleblowers that have waged mostly losing battles with the scientocracy. The editors are Patrick Michaels, a distinguished skeptical climate scientist, and Terence Kealey, a biochemist and former university administrator in Great Britain.

The science establishment has been corrupted by money, specifically federal research grants. A wise President Eisenhower warned about the corrupting effect of money on science in this 1961 farewell address. Money is now more important than science. A big bite of every research grant goes to the university as 'overhead.' So the university bureaucracy is intensely focused on bringing in more research grants. For the researcher, money means promotion, status, and the means to engage in expensive research projects."


These unscrupulous scientists with no credibility are the "academic harlots" I have warned you about years ago. This is how lefties keep proving whatever lies they want, they just bribe unscrupulous scientists to say what they want said and, whamo, it is a scientific fact, you know, like global warming...uh...I mean climate change. These frauds have no credibility, none, zero.

Stupid Upper Class Trash

Remember that I have been telling you that having more money does not mean you are more intelligent, all it means is that you have more money and that the stupid people are running our planet?

I am going to once again show you just how stupid these upper class trash, their political harlots, and their bureaucrats and minions are.

When I was about 7 or 8 years of age, I noticed something I have studied for more than 60 years and I have not seen any of these all-knowing, all-wise, intellectually superior, natural elite, highly educated, grossly overpaid, upper class trash, their academe, their political harlots, or any of them, who got the right degrees from the right universities, mention, not one time.

I noticed and my research has confirmed that the wealthiest of the wealthy people on this planet all either come from or do business with the nations that have the strongest economies, which provide their people with the most disposable income.

Don't believe me?

Just look around the world and you will notice that what I just said is true. The best example of this is third world countries where the people have the lowest disposable income and none of their upper class are among the wealthiest of the wealthy in the world unless those wealthy people do business with nations with stronger economies.

Why?

Because, the people having the most disposable income increases the growth of their economies so that the upper class have the greatest earning potential for the long term.

Therefore, if the upper class trash steal from the people's disposable income, they are stealing from the maximum potential of their economy and also stealing from their own maximum potential long term wealth, in other words, the upper class trash stealing from the lower classes is the upper class trash stealing from themselves and the arrogant fools, their all-knowing, all-wise, highly educated college professors, and others have not figured this out in thousands of years of stealing from the people and holding back their own long term maximum earning potential.

You think I am wrong?

Just look around the world and answer the question, "Where do the wealthiest of the wealth come from and/or do business?" The answer will smack you right in the face and you too will wonder why these intellectually superior upper class trash have not figured this out in more than 2,500 years of them stealing for short term financial gain with it being so obvious that a 7 year old boy could notice it.

Do you believe me yet that they are the stupidest people on the planet, that having more money doesn't mean you are more intelligent and that all it means is you have more money? Getting obvious, is it?

When you see how obvious this is and that a 7 year boy old noticed it but none of the upper class trash have in thousands of years, you will agree with me about how stupid the upper class trash are to keep stealing from their own futures.

Kind of makes your brain hurt, doesn't it?

And the greedy, power mad upper class trash want to set up a global dictatorship so they can enslave the people to steal everything from the people? Why?

Because the upper class trash are so greedy they are simple minded and stupid and the only way the upper class trash know how to increase their wealth is to steal more from more people faster.

Hey, what do you expect from 2,500 years of inbreeding, intelligence and sanity?

Maybe, just maybe the upper class trash should learn to earn money instead of just stealing it?

And God said, "You sins will find you out." He also said, "Thou shalt not steal."



Carl mentioned solar desalination technology and it is interesting but Israel donated amazing technology to Norway so that Norwegian diplomats and scientists could pass the technology on to nations that would not deal directly with Israel.

Sahara Forest Project -



 
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By this logic any invidual action to cut your carbon emission is futile because there are 7,7 billion other people so your contribution is basically meaningless.

Of course if everyone thinks so the effect of negligence multiplies and the combined result is overwhelming.

Funny how nobody ever mentions how futile single person breaching gospel is when compared to 7,7 billion people. So we could totally quit it or something ?

You may find the update to Mr. Carl Cantrell's theory somewhat interesting:

I Told You So 287

Carl and I did put this idea in front of Mr. Al Gore and Sir Richard Branson and the team at the Virgin Earth Challenge back in 2007.

My two somewhat humorous submissions for $25 million Virgin Earth Challenge.
 
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There is a better way though! The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave….

Building Solar panels on the sahara desert could provide electricity and enough convection currents to reduce the deserts drought. Likely this would cool it.

What if We Turned The Sahara Desert Into a Giant Solar Farm?
 
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The air looks and smells a lot cleaner today than it is 20 years ago.

Considering we have a lot more people now....

I think it's an improvement. Let's keep at it.


True.... some progress has been made.

There is also some good news.

NEWS | April 26, 2016
CO2 is making Earth greener—for now
By Samson Reiny,
NASA's Earth Science News Team



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Results showed that carbon dioxide fertilization explains 70 percent of the greening effect, said co-author Ranga Myneni, a professor in the Department of Earth and Environment at Boston University. “The second most important driver is nitrogen, at 9 percent. So we see what an outsized role CO2 plays in this process.”

About 85 percent of Earth’s ice-free lands is covered by vegetation. The area covered by all the green leaves on Earth is equal to, on average, 32 percent of Earth’s total surface area — oceans, lands and permanent ice sheets combined. The extent of the greening over the past 35 years “has the ability to fundamentally change the cycling of water and carbon in the climate system,” said lead author Zaichun Zhu, a researcher from Peking University, China, who did the first half of this study with Myneni as a visiting scholar at Boston University.

Every year, about half of the 10 billion tons of carbon emitted into the atmosphere from human activities remains temporarily stored, in about equal parts, in the oceans and plants. “While our study did not address the connection between greening and carbon storage in plants, other studies have reported an increasing carbon sink on land since the 1980s, which is entirely consistent with the idea of a greening Earth,” said co-author Shilong Piao of the College of Urban and Environmental Sciences at Peking University.
 
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We Canadians produce less than two percent of Global Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Emissions anyway so the logic of why we should burden our businesses and taxpayers with billions and tens of billions in taxes for something that we cannot do much about is terribly illogical.

Even at 1.6%, Canada ranks as one of the highest per person emissions. Twice the per person rate of China. Reducing individual carbon emissions is best for everyone....but very unlikely to happen.
 
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Carl and I did put this idea in front of Mr. Al Gore and Sir Richard Branson and the team at the Virgin Earth Challenge back in 2007.

Let me guess. You did not win the prize.
 
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I heard a historical record read, that when the settlers first came to Southwestern Desert, in the U.S.; that the grass was as high as the saddles on their horses.
Regenerative agriculture can nullify Anthropogenic CO2

In a study of Biomass, the amount of active biological activity, student recorded a three fold increase in one cubit yard of soil, in one year. For whatever reason.
 
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Even at 1.6%, Canada ranks as one of the highest per person emissions. Twice the per person rate of China. Reducing individual carbon emissions is best for everyone....but very unlikely to happen.


But......... we Canadians are in a position where the real estate along the Bay of Fundy may be some of the most vulnerable land on earth so......... we are forced to put first things first and think like a physician and worry about the threat of rising ocean levels first, (metaphorically it seems to be the number one most life threatening condition that the patient, the planet, seems to be facing)?!

I am hoping that some very bright Christian high school or community college or university students living along the Bay of Fundy may just put a somewhat different angle on the climate change discussion and hopefully even lure Ms. Thunberg into their project?

Concept for a Christian documentary starring Ms. Greta Thunberg....

"If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...

... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters."


Bay of Fundy Tides: The Highest Tides in the World!

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Every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of Israel, California, Algeria, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Nevada, South Africa, India or any other nation with lots of desert is really good news for the owners of the real estate along the Bay of Fundy and of Anchorage Alaska that have the second most extreme tides in the world for very similar reasons.

High tide waters are funnelled by the Bay of Fundy into a more and more narrow area and on top of that......... the Bay of Fundy is over one hundred and seventy miles long so high tide water cannot fully drain back into the ocean before the next high tide waters pile on top of them.
 
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I think that we should forget about the silly Carbon Tax idea. We Canadians produce less than two percent of Global Atmospheric Greenhouse Gas Emissions anyway so the logic of why we should burden our businesses and taxpayers with billions and tens of billions in taxes for something that we cannot do much about is terribly illogical.

Can you do 2% about it? All we need is for everyone to do their share.

Otherwise, every country can say the same thing. France is 1%, Australia is 1%, Brazil is 1%, Turkey is 1%, South Africa is 1%, Poland is 1%, Italy is 1%, the UK is 1%, Mexico is 1%, South Korea is 2%, Canada is 2%, Germany is 2%, Saudi Arabia is 2%, Japan is 4%, Russia is 5%, India is 6%. None of them individually are responsible for much, and none of them individually can make much of a dent in the problem. CO2 emissions have risen 60% since 1990, so even if India stopped all carbon use, it wouldn't get us back even a tenth of the way back to that level.

Together those countries amount to 32%. If they don't do anything, why should the US (15%)? If that total 47% doesn't do anything, why should China (28%)?

That's been the status quo forever, which is why the Paris Accords are a very useful attempt at coordinated action where everyone does their share, and no one feels like they've been left to carry the whole load.
 
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