Huge Gun-Lovers Rally on MLK Day - Not A Coincidence but By Design

[renniks]

So what would you do if someone killed someone close to you while you weren't around to protect them? I had that happen to me.
That should be the real question.

How is that even a related question? It's not within my legal rights to do anything but report whatever I knew about it to the authorities.

 

[renniks]

Some serve their guns or maybe their guns serve them

The same can be true of literally anything that you put above God. Not sure what that has to do with law abiding citizens having a rally about gun rights.

 

[Hammster]

OH, are you living in my mind and can make the same assessment? Assumptions seem to be the problem.
SOME tend to hear only what they want to hear.

You seem to be living in other’s minds. I mean, you can tell that most gun owners don’t really love their neighbors.

 

[Hammster]

Come on now, you know that was not my point.

Here is the problem: Let's say I concede - which I don't but that is not the immediate point - that there are some legitimate arguments for gun freedom. The problem is that the gun people come up with some of the most stupid things one will ever hear. And I mean, flat-out, eye-rolling, give-me-a-break stupid.

One of them is this: Guns are not part of the violence problem because they are inanimate objects.

An 8-year old can see the problem with that "reasoning".

If your logic is correct, with the amount of guns (since to you, guns are the problem) there should have at least been some sort of accidental discharge of a weapon. At the very least.

 

[Jamesone5]

You seem to be living in other’s minds. I mean, you can tell that most gun owners don’t really love their neighbors.

I am living with Christ in mind! Consider this verse and what it means to ME.

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Now the Spirit of Truth or the Holy Spirit tells Me that some [certainly not all] of these arguments are foolish. I am Trusting Christ and while I own firearms, I certainly do NOT go to gun rallies and brandish my weaponry as I am called to love my neighbor not speed more fear in this cold love environment.

You argue with me--you are really arguing with God.

 

[Jamesone5]

If your logic is correct, with the amount of guns (since to you, guns are the problem) there should have at least been some sort of accidental discharge of a weapon. At the very least.

There certainly is that all around us, but some try to ignore it as some sort of collateral damage, it seems. Pride tends to blind.

To you as well--I rely on The Sprit of Truth [Holy Spirit] as my guide.

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Other's mere opinions of weaponry does not matter as this issue has been fully put to the Lord for ME.
Therefore, while I have a gun or two, I look at all this lusting after guns as arrogant foolishness in this already cold-love environment that I would only further.l Certainly do not go to gun rallies as for me, it would be adding to that cold-love instead of helping.

I have been tested many times so I know the Holy Spirit is living in me and I grow in learning Truth all the time as it applies in many other matters. Always go to the Source--the Holy Bible.
Now you want to argue with me--you are really arguing with God.

 

[Jamesone5]

The same can be true of literally anything that you put above God. Not sure what that has to do with law abiding citizens having a rally about gun rights.

What is a law -abiding citizen or does one really exist?. Do you sometime speed, maybe fudge numbers on your taxes or take advantage of other drivers when you drive somewhere in a hurry? I can think of many other things that people do even unwittingly, that show they are not totally "law -abiding citizens" as they claim. And, while we are talking about law---we can get into God's Law and the huge problems there.

The Holy Spirit in me, tells me a gun rally is foolishness really promoting more fears in an already cold love society. Goes right in line with this verse:

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

As to the Holy Spirit or Spirit of Truth , that I rely on:

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

So for you, it really becomes argument with God here.

I am just a mere messenger that is warning other people as the Matthew verse is one of Christ' prophesies of the Last Days that we all need to take heed of.

 

[Jamesone5]

How is that even a related question? It's not within my legal rights to do anything but report whatever I knew about it to the authorities.

Why? You say you are prepared with your guns. Why not be totally prepared for the "What if"?

Tell you what, if I had a gun that night my wife was killed I probably would have used it, as I came upon the wreck shortly after it happened in another car. I was so mad at the other woman I could not see straight. Thank God I had the training in CPR for my wife, because for about 15 minutes I tried to revive her and it took my focus off my rage.Then a highway patrolman [who showed up later] gently got me into his cruiser that night and locked the door. Christ rescued me from all that rage afterwards. By the way, this woman did not even spend one night in jail for her drunk driving accident as she was out of the car and the whole thing was somewhat "swept under the rug" in a sense. So I not only had to truly forgive her, but that highway patrolman who investigated the accident, as well.

Trust God as I have learned to do and do not pretend you know God's Will in every situation.

If you have kids and someone breaks into your home, you going to say "wait, Mr.intruder until I get my gun, so I can shoot you".? As, hopefully you have your gun in a locked safe.

 

[Hammster]

I am living with Christ in mind! Consider this verse and what it means to ME.

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Now the Spirit of Truth or the Holy Spirit tells Me that some [certainly not all] of these arguments are foolish. I am Trusting Christ and while I own firearms, I certainly do NOT go to gun rallies and brandish my weaponry as I am called to love my neighbor not speed more fear in this cold love environment.

You argue with me--you are really arguing with God.

Okay, you’re not God. I will certainly listen to your arguments as presented from scripture. Those can be exegeted. I will not listen to your feelings of what you think the Spirit is telling you, since those cannot be exegeted. What any verse means to YOU is irrelevant. What the verse (or better yet, the passage, chapter, or book) means is what’s relevant. Scripture cannot mean what it never meant.

 

[Hammster]

There certainly is that all around us, but some try to ignore it as some sort of collateral damage, it seems. Pride tends to blind.

To you as well--I rely on The Sprit of Truth [Holy Spirit] as my guide.

John 14:17
the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Other's mere opinions of weaponry does not matter as this issue has been fully put to the Lord for ME.
Therefore, while I have a gun or two, I look at all this lusting after guns as arrogant foolishness in this already cold-love environment that I would only further.l Certainly do not go to gun rallies as for me, it would be adding to that cold-love instead of helping.

I have been tested many times so I know the Holy Spirit is living in me and I grow in learning Truth all the time as it applies in many other matters. Always go to the Source--the Holy Bible.
Now you want to argue with me--you are really arguing with God.

Again, you’re not God, and you’ve not shown any scripture which would give anyone any reason to not go to a peaceful rally. Since going would violate YOUR conscience, then no, don’t go. But you cannot say it’s sinful for someone else to go, unless you can provide scripture to back it up.

 

[Jamesone5]

Again, you’re not God, and you’ve not shown any scripture which would give anyone any reason to not go to a peaceful rally. Since going would violate YOUR conscience, then no, don’t go. But you cannot say it’s sinful for someone else to go, unless you can provide scripture to back it up.

Who claimed to be God? certainly not I.
He fills one with the Holy Spirit or do you not understand that very simple Promise.

Cold-love and an indication of that in our society. You want to ignore the signs---you it at you own peril

 

[Hammster]

Who claimed to be God? certainly not I.
He fills one with the Holy Spirit or do you not understand that very simple Promise.

Cold-love and an indication of that in our society. You want to ignore the signs---you it at you own peril

I’m waiting for you to show scripture to support your position.

 

[Jamesone5]

Okay, you’re not God. I will certainly listen to your arguments as presented from scripture. Those can be exegeted. I will not listen to your feelings of what you think the Spirit is telling you, since those cannot be exegeted. What any verse means to YOU is irrelevant. What the verse (or better yet, the passage, chapter, or book) means is what’s relevant. Scripture cannot mean what it never meant.

Why should I share anything with you? You already told me that likely:your feelings of what you think the Spirit is telling you,

I am not going to waste my time with someone who want to argue my feelings, when I am solidly telling you they are observations---with wisdom I might add.
So there you go.

 

[Hammster]

Why should I share anything with you? You already told me that likely:your feelings of what you think the Spirit is telling you,

I am not going to waste my time with someone who want to argue my feelings, when I am solidly telling you they are observations.
So there you go.

In short, you have no scripture.

 

[expos4ever]

If your logic is correct, with the amount of guns (since to you, guns are the problem) there should have at least been some sort of accidental discharge of a weapon. At the very least.

Nonsense! Surely you are smart enough to know that what you are suggesting does not follow from my logic.

Please do not misrepresent other posters - you are a staff member after all.

 

[Hammster]

Nonsense! Surely you are smart enough to know that what you are suggesting does not follow from my logic.

Please do not misrepresent other posters - you are a staff member after all.

Your argument is that guns are part of the problem. So more guns, more problems.

 

[Jamesone5]

In short, you have no scripture.

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And, how would you know I have no scriptures? I already provided you and others with 10 or so.
Are you once again speaking for me with a falsehood?
I have a whole lot to share further {with scriptures] but only if someone wants to listen. Don't appear as if you do.

Like I say, you are taking your fight with God and His Holy Spirt that I can claim. Gosh, it seems I have to requalify things so people wont's go on with their assumptions

 

[Hammster]

And, how would you know I have no scriptures? Are you once again speaking for me?
I have a whole lot to share {with scriptures] but only if someone wants to listen. Don't appear as if you do.

Like I say, you are taking you fight with God and His Holy Spirt that I just claim. Gosh, it seems I have to requalify things so people wont's go on with their assumptions

I can say that because regardless of how many times I’ve asked, you’ve not provided any. So we can either have this discussion about whether or not you have scripture, or you could just provide the scripture that you say you have.

 

[Jamesone5]

I can say that because regardless of how many times I’ve asked, you’ve not provided any. So we can either have this discussion about whether or not you have scripture, or you could just provide the scripture that you say you have.

Seems once again people only see what they choose to see. Here is a sampler of what I have provided a number of times:

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Now do you think Christ warned us of this for another time--maybe some time in the future? And further do you NOT think more guns in a society is one evidence of that cold love?

 

[LightLoveHope]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/01/20/virginia-gun-rally-updates/

No mistake about the choice of date - they chose, of all days, MLK Day. As everyone knows, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a black civil rights activist who was the target of racists and was ultimately murdered with a gun.

Choosing today sends a message of "we love guns and we have no concern for MLK or his legacy and that's why whe chose today for our huge pro-gun rally".

MLK did things in line with God's Word, was peaceful but stood for what was right. He was a Christian man and pastor. This is the man that the racists hated then and hate to this day, along with anyone who shares Dr. King's Christian values.

I saw the guys with their guns and thought, you really need an M16, and to be able to buy more than one a month, it is your right to blow people away with an army assault rifle, because how dare they tell you what to do.

It is ironic in one school shooting was a mum so afraid of the end times and the anarchy, stock piled guns in her house, not realising she was arming her crazy son, who killed her and the kids in a school. The simple problem is nutcases will go nuts, but do you need an army riffle for target practice where one is enough, with restrictions, if this saves lives.

In Australia they banned these weapons, no more mass killings. It works. At what price is one more unnecessary death?