Genesis 1 is to be taken literaly - it is the only logical option

[GodLovesCats]

Business and politics have everything to do with everything they possibly can to increase their wealth and power.

And none of that is science. Money is a totally different subject that has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So you must not want any kind of technology or other manmade objects that were invented after the first century. See hte problem there?

As written, everything that originates in the flesh, ("born of the flesh") is flesh , and profits nothing.
Likewise the things of the world - whoever desires them cannot be a friend of Yahuweh Sovereign Creator - (yes, not even a friend by/in/with Christ Jesus).


All the sinful things lead to believing heresies, lies, frauds, false teachings, and lead to sin also - vis-a-vis feelings, desires in the flesh, carnal minds, etc as written in Scripture.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

And none of that is science. Money is a totally different subject that has nothing to do with this thread.

Love of money is the root of all evil, including the humongous profits of technology wrongfully used and propagated, to keep people from finding the Kingdom of Yahuweh (Heaven) or Salvation in Christ Jesus.

 

[BobRyan]

You have still shown me absolutely no proof at all that evolution never happened.

I show you your own world class evol scientists lamenting their lack .of proven facts to support the salient argument in blind faith evolutionism .. other than the obvious fact that they admit "it should not be taught in high school".

I have offered to explain to you why it is that prokaryotes do not turn into rabbits given enough time and chance.

I have also explained that "proving that an Easter bunny is not writing "war and peace" - on some far away planet is being asked to "prove the negative" which is not reasonable. The reasonable test for actual science is to prove the positive. Prove that the story telling which even your own world class evol scientist calls "stories easy enough to tell but they are not science" laments -- is proven true.


Therefore the idea that even one generation proved evolutionism is merely imagined - and the fact that 50,000 generations of observations in the real world also show "no evolutionism" is not as surprising as you may have at first imagined.

"YOU are in denial"

 

[GodLovesCats]

All natural things originate from GOD. Therefore, it is impossible for science to be manmade, as you keep claiming without any basis. Do you not understand God created science and the people who study science in college? Why do you continue to insist that the knowledge of science is not beneficial in any way to anybody, despite the fact that without science, there would be nothing except God?

 

[GodLovesCats]

Love of money is the root of all evil, including the humongous profits of technology wrongfully used and propagated, to keep people from finding the Kingdom of Yahuweh (Heaven) or Salvation in Christ Jesus.

I said that has nothing to do with this thread, so there is no reason to mention it here.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You have still shown me absolutely no proof at all that evolution never happened. Therefore the idea that even one generation proved it is imagined - much less 50,000 - disproved evolution is proof that YOU are in denial.

Let me know when you find proof that there are no fossils or other natural objects.

It is repetitive, in your posts, that somehow you think (or assume) that evolution has been 'proved'.

Perhaps to you it was, but not to "us" (replying to you). The errors in believing such proofs of things that are not proofs of anything, but mere assumptions or presumptions apparently,
are difficult to undo when the ORIGIN of the errors remains unknown / or hidden.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

All natural things originate from GOD. Therefore, it is impossible for science to be manmade, as you keep claiming without any basis. Do you not understand God created science and the people who study science in college?

Where did you get such ideas ?
Science, like politics, like economics, like most religion,
originates in the flesh, in mankind, or worse (below the earth).

Science often has nothing to do with nature or with natural things, except to further and further trick people and get them further and further deceived.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Bob, you did not show me anything. All you do is keep posting the same false text over and over. Why do you refuse to show me PROOF that what what Collin Patterson said is true? If you can't do so, he is a liar.

 

[BobRyan]

shalom

the name of God that you use, 'Yahuweh', is not a literal four letter translation, whereas, YHWH is the four letter, literal translation.

Do not interpolate letters into the tetragrammaton, adding to the scripture is never to be tolerated.

or is it

You may accept that man is infallible when writing the scripture, I don't. ..

I do not accept that premise that the scripture is perfect and without error.

Scripture is inspired but written by men and more to the point. Scripture was written by patriotic Jews with a vested interest in proclaiming their own greatness.
.

Which one is it??

Is it possible that two different people set at your keyboard from day to day and some posts come from one POV while others come from an entirely different and even opposing one?

 

[BobRyan]

Bob, you did not show me anything. All you do is keep posting the same false text

I hope you understand that the definition of "false" is not "whatever does not compliment evolutionism" --

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I show you your own world class evol scientists lamenting their lack .of proven facts to support the salient argument in blind faith evolutionism .. other than the obvious fact that they admit "it should not be taught in high school".

I have offered to explain to you why it is that prokaryotes do not turn into rabbits given enough time and chance.

I have also explained that "proving that an Easter bunny is not writing "war and peace" - on some far away planet is being asked to "prove the negative" which is not reasonable. The reasonable test for actual science is to prove the positive. Prove that the story telling which even your own world class evol scientist calls "stories easy enough to tell but they are not science" laments -- is proven true.


Therefore the idea that even one generation proved evolutionism is merely imagined - and the fact that 50,000 generations of observations in the real world also show "no evolutionism" is not as surprising as you may have at first imagined.

"YOU are in denial"

Amen.
You continually have posted facts and Scriptures for as long as I've observed this forum, (I think),
and many in the nile (haha - 'denial') , continue to fight against the truth...
I am unaware of what benefits someone gets by continuing to believe in such things which are contrary to the truth and even going beyond that they post things with no basis at all
, and even more so, claiming they are "proven" when that is not even close to truth.

What possible reason is there for such denial ? (if you know) This is not quite a rhetorical question.

 

[BobRyan]

Why do you refuse to show me PROOF that what what Collin Patterson said is true? If you can't do so, he is a liar.

at this point -- given that you have not proven evolutionism to be true at all - what would you accept as "proof"??

You apparently reject the observations in nature of 50,000 generations proving that no evolutionism took place so what would you accept as proof in the case of your own by-faith-alone world-class scientist on the subject of evolutionism -- making a true statement.??

 

[GodLovesCats]

Where did you get such ideas? Science, like politics, like economics, like most religion, originates in the flesh, in mankind, or worse (below the earth).

This is how my older sister convinced me to believe in God: She said, "God created science, so He can break the rules of science." She was a pre-med student at the time and is now a breast oncologist. If I did not hear this, I would still be an atheist.

Science often has nothing to do with nature or with natural things, except to further and further trick people and get them further and further deceived.

Would you mind explaining how this is possible if there are scientists studying every subject about nature that God created? Tricking and deceiving people further is not the purpose of learning about the universe.

You want to treat the Bible as the only authority without looking at passages about God making a plan for every person's life. I can show you Biblically science is a subject that God supports.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

This is how my older sister convinced me to believe in God: She said, "God created science, so He can break the rules of science." She was a pre-med student at the time and is now a breast oncologist. If I did not hear this, I would still be an atheist.

TEST what your trusted sister "knows" supposedly.
SEE the book "nutrition the cancer answer" and see if she KNOWS the information which was proven BEFORE 1950. (back when the cures were legal to be advertised and used by licensed ama doctors) ...

Being convinced to believe in God by such a means as that, should not mean you continue to believe in false ideas...

 

[GodLovesCats]

I hope you understand that the definition of "false" is not "whatever does not compliment evolutionism" --

I am still waiting for you to prove what exists does not exist.

 

[Lost4words]

As written, everything that originates in the flesh, ("born of the flesh") is flesh , and profits nothing.
Likewise the things of the world - whoever desires them cannot be a friend of Yahuweh Sovereign Creator - (yes, not even a friend by/in/with Christ Jesus).


All the sinful things lead to believing heresies, lies, frauds, false teachings, and lead to sin also - vis-a-vis feelings, desires in the flesh, carnal minds, etc as written in Scripture.

Why you using the internet then?

 

[Lost4words]

Where did you get such ideas ?
Science, like politics, like economics, like most religion,
originates in the flesh, in mankind, or worse (below the earth).

Science often has nothing to do with nature or with natural things, except to further and further trick people and get them further and further deceived.

God gave us the ability to learn. If not, we would still be looking for leaves to cover our nakedness!

 

[GodLovesCats]

TEST what your trusted sister "knows" supposedly. SEE the book "nutrition the cancer answer" and see if she KNOWS the information which was proven BEFORE 1950 (back when the cures were legal to be advertised and used by licensed ama doctors).

Being convinced to believe in God by such a means as that, should not mean you continue to believe in false ideas.

Show me proof science is manmade and nothing can be scientifically proven. Until then, no words you type that deny science can be true because all you say is science is false. If science was not real, your own body would not exist.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Tricking and deceiving people further is not the purpose of learning about the universe.

It perhaps should not be so, yet it is so for most all corporations and businesses and professionals and educators,
all subject to testing BY GOD'S WORD - so when they clearly disobey God, and clearly contradict God, we do not accept what they say, no matter how many credentials they have, or 'studies' either - those are the means by which THE ENEMY OF CHRIST convinces men of errors, to sin, to not believe in Jesus.