spiritualchristian7
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I'm a non-denom Christian but I do recommend you watch this
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I'm a non-denom Christian but I do recommend you watch this
ChillYou did read where I said there will be no debate and no change in regards to my attending a liturgical church?
I will never attend a non-denominational (read Baptist lite) church or non-liturgical church!
Chill
I would like to remind those who want to sell me on a church, that I am looking for a liturgical church, nothing other than a liturgical church.
My mind will not change on that.
I am curious, though. What Scripture verses or other proofs (evidences) makes you think that the sacraments play a part in the salvation process? Granted, I am all for Sanctification being a part of salvation (after we are saved by God's grace through faith in Christ), but that would be obedience to the Moral commands we see in the New Testament (that are based on love and not ceremonies or rituals).
Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did.
If you're no longer attending Mass, who is after you?
friends from church or family?
my entire family is Catholic & husband's is Lutheran
we attend more than one Christian church but not one family member or friend has pushed us towards their particular church
I am not debating my decision.
Please do not make me say it again.
Understood.
Blessings to you in the Lord.
That sounds very Lutheran.I am a Christian by baptism and born again by baptism.
That sounds very Lutheran.
I guess?
It is what I have come to believe for some time now.
Want to give the Episcopal church a try since it's what my girlfriend is and when we get married, I would like to be of the same faith.
Edit: Not saying you were trying to persuade me, just conversating.
Some family, some friends. They don't want me to leave Catholicism.
Family is hardest to deal with.
Frame it differently: Maybe they just care, in their own way.
People going the other way have a tough time of it too.
Emphasis what you still share with them.
You are welcome to your choices, I wish you well.
I know you are not interested in debate,I am curious not arguing: but surprising thing I thought you said was History was "written by winners" I found odd since there was no contest "to win" that I was aware off, until the orthodox split in which geographical isolation and language also played a significant part.
Throughout the first period were a continuous stream of ideas declared herestical, first gnostics, modalists, arians and many others... that took us through the first few hundred years, in which all of the essential dogmas were established. I am rather glad modalists and arians lost! Leading to the creed we have. Can you explain the "winners remark"
Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.
I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.
Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.
So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.
What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?
Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.
I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.
Having very recently left Catholicism and I am getting much blow back from Catholics because I did. Lots of you're going to hell type comments and the Catholic church is the only church that Jesus is in or that he started. My favorites are that I left because of the scandals or the LGBT movement. I will say that I lean liberal in many things, but also conservative in others. I vote independent and not down party lines.
I left because I just don't agree with Catholicism and I was what they considered a cradle Catholic. I have been doing much research into Catholicism over the past few years, reading about the early church fathers and early Christianity and what I have come to realize is that the phrase, "history is written by the victors" is so true! What I see is that they are the true church because they were the first ones to claim it and nothing more.
Also don't believe the old phrase, "Once Catholic, always Catholic." Especially for those who through no choice of their own were baptized Catholic as infants such as I was. Had I been given a choice, I wouldn't have been Catholic. I believe that is just a way to scare you into staying with Catholicism. I am not necessarily against being baptized as an infant, just that the baptism doesn't bind you to one denomination.
So, after realizing that I just don't agree with many things that the Catholic church says, I couldn't stay.
What can I do about these other Catholics coming down so hard on me?
Haven't chosen a church to attend yet, as I didn't go this weekend wanting a break from things and having too much to do around my apartment.
I will say that I want to stay liturgical and am leaning Episcopal.
@Isilwen , have you ever had a Born-Again experience?
If you have not, you will be stuck trying to stand in your own strength.
If/when you have, God can empower/motivate you to stand.