Climate Changing Fast Now.

[dqhall]

You go and see a doctor when your really sick, science.

You drive a car to work, science.

You hop on a jet and travel across the globe, science.

You walk on the moon, science.

Yet you deny the thermometer, not science.

You are in denial of the work of meteorology departments around the world.

Hide the decline?

What decline!

Global warming is no hoax. July 2019 was the warmest month ever recorded on earth. Sea level rise increased to 1/8 inch per year and was accelerating. Experiments showed CO2 filled containers trapped more heat than air filled containers.

 

[Ken Rank]

People have been predicting the end for a very long time. Even Christianity has it's fair share of people predicting the end of the world. Even the apostles thought the world would end in their own lifetime.

There is a difference between thinking the end times (when God passes judgement and the kingdom is set up on Earth) are here... and thinking that man causing global warming and that global warming is the end of all things. So... people crying "10 more years before life is not-sustainable" is generally not the Christians talking about the second coming or the tribulation but rather the humanists and secularists who play god in their words and deeds. I reject the latter David... I have no choice.

 

[klutedavid]

There is a difference between thinking the end times (when God passes judgement and the kingdom is set up on Earth) are here... and thinking that man causing global warming and that global warming is the end of all things. So... people crying "10 more years before life is not-sustainable" is generally not the Christians talking about the second coming or the tribulation but rather the humanists and secularists who play god in their words and deeds. I reject the latter David... I have no choice.

The effects of global warming are one very important part of the end time scenario, described in the book of Revelation.

A one world governing authority is fueled by an out of control world where even the weather is in crisis. National governments cannot combat catastrophic climate change as they are self absorbed.

You have missed the boat on this one my friend.

 

[renniks]

That is how the governments around the world have been treating climate change. They just ignore it and introduce slight changes to reduce CO2 emissions.

The world governments are in denial and I don't blame them for that. Reducing CO2 emissions on a large scale will drastically harm the economies of many countries.

You are not alone in your denial of the scientific news on climate change.

Let's all go back to walking and riding horses everywhere. In fact if we don't really want to affect the environment at all, let's get rid of our houses too. Smoke is also a pollutant, so we won't have any fires, and of course we can't kill any animals, so I guess we'll just go extinct, either way.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Obviously you believe in the return of Jesus Christ and a defined end time scenario. Which would include events such as large hail. Giant waves which cause fear and alarm in people.

The sun so hot that it scorches people. Well these end time events are all possible under a climate change scenario.

Is a one world government necessary under an apocalyptic, climate change induced end time event. Well yes, of course we need a very powerful one world authority or government to enforce emission reduction. The governments of the nations around the world are not reducing their emissions, they follow a business as usual pattern.

There are so many developing problems in our world these days that a one world government, is a forced variation, it is a necessity. The countries of the world cannot recklessly pursue their own wealth creation, at that enormous cost to our environment.

Decreasing resources, increasing population, increasing pollution, emissions rising, increasing competition in the global market. More nations seeking to develop nuclear technology and nuclear weapons. Automation and the loss of employment, the rise of artificial intelligence and the loss of employment.

Surely there has never been a greater need for a one world government.[/QUOT

 

[klutedavid]

When people have zeal, I always look for consistency. Does their life, their actions, back up their words? Within this "Climate Change" movement, I find a great deal of inconsistency.

I find the same and climate science is a very new academic discipline. I ignore their lifestyles as I'm only interested in the meteorology data.
I could not care less how they live or act. In fact I ignore everyone's opinions and that includes Christians also, as often they are simply wrong.

From using personal jets to get to climate change meetings, to using gas generators to power microphones so we can be told how fossil fuels like gas are killing us, to buying extravagant beachfront homes while screaming at us that beaches are disappearing ... to leaving tons (literally) of non-biodegradable garbage behind at "Save the Earth" rallies.

Your generating far too much confusion, the conversation is about a climate report handed to the United Nations. Stay on topic.
[Quota]If these people REALLY believed what they preach, their actions wouldn't stand opposed to their words! And this is why I pay absolutely zero attention to their words![/QUOTE]
They don't preach anything they simply read the thermometers around the world. Focus on the meteorology and not what some climate alarmist might say.

Your so confused and scrambled in your attitude to science and meteorology. You come across as some twenty first century hypocrite, love the scientific technology and use it daily, but for some reason reject the scientific research.

We are all meteorologists and we all look at the sky constantly to see if it's going to rain. Is it going to be a hot day and what will I wear.

Everyday I monitor the weather as it determines what I wear, when I will go for a walk, do I need to shut the windows. Do I need to get the clothes of the line. Meteorology is older than the hills themselves.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

I have made a case that the extreme weather is the by product of geo engineering and not man made carbon emission as the driving force. I note that the LORD promised after the flood that weather patterns would continues as long as the earth endures. I also note that the LORD destroys those who destroyed the earth. Unless you can debunk geo engineering as the root cause your answer is a bit off. The scriptures that warn about the end note that a world government is formed at that time. Psalm 2 is very relevant in that it notes the real objective behind the oneworld government
1 Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
6 “Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion The iron mountain strategy is playing out. Dan 8 too
“And in the latter time of their kingdom,
When the transgressors have reached their fullness,
A king shall arise,
Having fierce features,
Who understands sinister schemes.
24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power;
He shall destroy fearfully,
And shall prosper and thrive;
He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.
25 “Through his cunning
He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule;[fn]
And he shall exalt himself in his heart.
He shall destroy many in their prosperity.
He shall even rise against the Prince of princes;
But he shall be broken without human means.[fn]

 

[klutedavid]

Let's all go back to walking and riding horses everywhere. In fact if we don't really want to affect the environment at all, let's get rid of our houses too. Smoke is also a pollutant, so we won't have any fires, and of course we can't kill any animals, so I guess we'll just go extinct, either way.

Absolutely correct.

The human population has increased to such a great extent these days, that we are destroying the very fabric of the planet.

We have deforested the planet, fished the oceans bare, salinated our agricultural landscape. Polluted rivers, the land, the oceans, the atmosphere, even the moon and outer space.

We cannot help ourselves and global warming cannot be stopped.

 

[renniks]

Absolutely correct.

The human population has increased to such a great extent these days, that we are destroying the very fabric of the planet.

We have deforested the planet, fished the oceans bare, salinated our agricultural landscape. Polluted rivers, the land, the oceans, the atmosphere, even the moon and outer space.

We cannot help ourselves and global warming cannot be stopped.

Lol, I was being sarcastic... Quite the Doomsdayer you are! Have you sold all your possessions, and went off to live in a mud hut in the desert yet? Obviously not if you're still using a computer. So I find it rather hard to take you seriously.

 

[klutedavid]

I have made a case that the extreme weather is the by product of geo engineering and not man made carbon emission as the driving force. I note that the LORD promised after the flood that weather patterns would continues as long as the earth endures.

This is only true as long as we are not within an end time scenario, if we are beginning some end time chain of events then all bets are off. The earth suffers dreadfully in an end time scenario.

I also note that the LORD destroys those who destroyed the earth.

Yes that's all of us, we all contributed to the decline of the planet. All flesh will be destroyed and that includes the whole earth.

Unless you can debunk geo engineering as the root cause your answer is a bit off.

Geo engineering is a global problem but climate change is an even bigger problem.

The scriptures that warn about the end note that a world government is formed at that time.

Of course and we need a controlling authority over the whole world as it is wildly out of control. This is not rocket science.

“And in the latter time of their kingdom,
When the transgressors have reached their fullness,
A king shall arise,
Having fierce features,
Who understands sinister schemes.
24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power;
He shall destroy fearfully,
And shall prosper and thrive;
He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.
25 “Through his cunning
He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule;[fn]
And he shall exalt himself in his heart.
He shall destroy many in their prosperity.
He shall even rise against the Prince of princes;
But he shall be broken without human means.[fn]

That is not an end time prophecy.

 

[klutedavid]

Lol, I was being sarcastic... Quite the Doomsdayer you are! Have you sold all your possessions, and went off to live in a mud hut in the desert yet? Obviously not if you're still using a computer. So I find it rather hard to take you seriously.

If you bother to look at my avatar and that is a selfie. I took a mobile phone from a stupid tourist who was staring at me and took the selfie myself.

So no, I don't have a computer and can only send photos and text for how ever long the battery lasts in this stolen mobile phone.

And another thing you clever monkey. You though that if you climbed down from the trees
your bipedal life would be wonderful experience.

Think again, your problems are escalating now and we tree dwellers can't stop laughing now.

And by the way we were around long before the stupid monkey arrived on the scene.

 

[renniks]

If you bother to look at my avatar and that is a selfie. I took a mobile phone from a stupid tourist who was staring at me and took the selfie myself.

So no, I don't have a computer and can only send photos and text for how ever long the battery lasts in this stolen mobile phone.

And another thing you clever monkey. You though that if you climbed down from the trees
your bipedal life would be wonderful experience.

Think again, your problems are escalating now and we tree dwellers can't stop laughing now.

And by the way we were around long before the stupid monkey arrived on the scene.

Or maybe you borrowed a phone from a doctor in your mental ward.

 

[klutedavid]

The earth's climate has been going through changes from hot to cold for its entire existence. Why the panic, then? It's silly. And manipulative. These articles are just fear-mongering propaganda, the ultimate purpose of which is not to save the earth or preserve human flourishing but to consolidate greater power in political/governmental bodies.

The climate is changing and the data indicates that. Yet you are correct about a one world governing body, that is a necessity. We need to control the madness of the governments around the world.

Lunatics run our country and from what I can see around the world, governments are very similar everywhere else. Self absorbed, power hungry, corrupt, ambitious, delinquent folk, these politicians.

I sometimes think we focus on the political class far too much. It's disturbing when you look into other peoples lives to the extent that we look into politicians lives.

It's like looking into mirror and it is frightening.

 

[klutedavid]

Or maybe you borrowed a phone from a doctor in your mental ward.

An interesting idea and one that I would rather not contemplate. How do we really know that what we say and do, is actually happening the way that we think it is.

Yes of course that tourist could have very well have been a doctor trying to calm me down.

Am I really sitting in a tree and texting?

 

[renniks]

An interesting idea and one that I would rather not contemplate. How do we really know that what we say and do, is actually happening the way that we think it is.

Yes of course that tourist could have very well have been a doctor trying to calm me down.

Am I really sitting in a tree and texting?

Perhaps you are just a figment of someone's imagination, but that would be good news, because then climate change fears would have no effect on you.

 

[klutedavid]

Perhaps you are just a figment of someone's imagination, but that would be good news, because then climate change fears would have no effect on you.

Perhaps I'm just you texting from an alternate universe. 'Hello to me'.

We have strayed from the topic.

 

[klutedavid]

I like consider myself a reasonably intelligent person and more tolerant than many, as in usually I can see the other side of the argument. I don’t necessarily agree or think they are right, but I can at least follow the logic that got them to where they are... Even if it’s a place completely opposite of where I am.

Denying climate change and resisting efforts to protect the environment, lower emissions, and lower our damage to the world around us? That is the thing that no matter how hard I try, I cannot see how somebody would be against that.

Nor can I.

It requires a denial of the hard reality of human behavior. Human destructive behavior that is destroying the planet itself.

Surely driving a million species into extinction is enough evidence to notice a clear and dangerous threat that we are to this planet?

 

[renniks]

Perhaps I'm just you texting from an alternate universe. 'Hello to me'.

We have strayed from the topic.

There's a topic?
I'm not worried about climate change. What good would it do to worry? I'm all for living natural, killing my own meat, raising my own chickens for eggs, etc, but don't believe in forcing my lifestyle on others.

 

[klutedavid]

There's a topic?
I'm not worried about climate change. What good would it do to worry? I'm all for living natural, killing my own meat, raising my own chickens for eggs, etc, but don't believe in forcing my lifestyle on others.

Yes but your emitting CO2 and that is the problem. We all contribute to global climate change and none of us want to admit to it.

The world must change it's destructive behavior.

If we continue down this reckless path we will render the world uninhabitable.

 

[renniks]

Yes but your emitting CO2 and that is the problem. We all contribute to global climate change and none of us want to admit to it.

The world must change it's destructive behavior.

If we continue down this reckless path we will render the world uninhabitable.

Not buying it. Ok, I'll quit breathing, but you go first!