House passes resolution officially condemning Trump's racist attack on congresswomen

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Please see my previous post. Again, evidence not "gut-feelings" or even common-sense is what matters. The only actual hard evidence I have read about suggest that people more or less retain their values over time. And the fact is that the younger, more ethnically diverse demographic is more liberal than older people.

So I think there is reason to be hopeful.

Yes I think that the young ones will save us. It's just that what we're seeing now in politics, I feel that politics today all over the world has taken a hard right turn...
 
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Maybe no one, or very few are actually still buying any of his con jobs. A person would have to be pretty naive to still believe half of the things he says, after having seen him in action the past cpl of years. But still, compared to Hillary, compared to any Dems currently running, it's a no brainer to a lot of folks--Trump is still the better choice by a long shot.

That is such a sad situation, when so many people feel Trump is the best alternative...
 
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Outside the border? You aren't there, your I'm Sweden watching it on CNN. Yep, your outside.
Sweden will have to suffer their error in allowing the massive amounts of Muslim refugees they arw payomg for in many ways for generations - aye?

That is pretty funny, you are an outsider to Sweden and obviously don't have a clue about what's going on here, and still you buy the misinformation from Fox and Breitbart...
 
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That is such a sad situation, when so many people feel Trump is the best alternative...



And the following is from an article I read awhile back, where the article was titled: Dear Democrats, Here’s How to Guarantee Trump’s Reelection. The article makes a lot of good points, such as the following---

BTW, there appears to be a comment section at the bottom of that article. I have Scripting turned off in my Browser, so I'm unable to see those comments, so if anyone chooses to read that article, assuming they haven't already, since it's an older article, I'm not responsible as to what some might be saying or not saying in the comments section. One should use their own discretion then if they decide to read the article in it's entirety.

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Even so, Trump could still win reelection, because he has one essential dynamic working in his favor: You.

Trump’s numbers are unmovable, but yours are not. He doesn’t need to win this thing; he needs for you to lose it. There are millions of swing voters who regard Trump as an abomination but might vote for him again if they think you are scarier, more extreme, dangerous, or just annoyingly out of touch.

And, you have some experience at this, don’t you?

Dear Democrats, Here’s How to Guarantee Trump’s Reelection
 
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And the following is from an article I read awhile back, where the article was titled: Dear Democrats, Here’s How to Guarantee Trump’s Reelection. The article makes a lot of good points, such as the following---

BTW, there appears to be a comment section at the bottom of that article. I have Scripting turned off in my Browser, so I'm unable to see those comments, so if anyone chooses to read that article, assuming they haven't already, since it's an older article, I'm not responsible as to what some might be saying or not saying in the comments section. One should use their own discretion then if they decide to read the article in it's entirety.

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Even so, Trump could still win reelection, because he has one essential dynamic working in his favor: You.

Trump’s numbers are unmovable, but yours are not. He doesn’t need to win this thing; he needs for you to lose it. There are millions of swing voters who regard Trump as an abomination but might vote for him again if they think you are scarier, more extreme, dangerous, or just annoyingly out of touch.

And, you have some experience at this, don’t you?

Dear Democrats, Here’s How to Guarantee Trump’s Reelection

I'm sure Donald could win, but I remain hopeful as long as his approval rating is below 50%
 
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That is pretty funny, you are an outsider to Sweden and obviously don't have a clue about what's going on here, and still you buy the misinformation from Fox and Breitbart...

Sweden's rape rate under the spotlight

Hundreds protest in Sweden after series of gang rapes | Daily Mail Online

According to an U. N. report, the top 11 countries with the most rapes are:
11 Countries With Highest Rape Crime Rate in the World 2019

They have Sweden as #4. Apparently three other countries have risen above Sweden. nevertheless, you got a problem, not just with rapes but with the cost of supporting your guests and the culture being transformed.

Stick you head in the sand, you are contributing to the cover up that your country is embarrassed about. It is not just U.S. news, conservative news, foreign news as well.
 
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I'm sure Donald could win, but I remain hopeful as long as his approval rating is below 50%



How does anyone actually know what his actual approval rating might be? There are over 200 million in the US. How many of these 200+ million have participated in any of these polls? I know I haven't. Polls seem meaningless, IMO, if they don't actually involve every single US citizen old enough to take them, participating in them.
 
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How does anyone actually know what his actual approval rating might be? There are over 200 million in the US. How many of these 200+ million have participated in any of these polls? I know I haven't. Polls seem meaningless, IMO, if they don't actually involve every single US citizen old enough to take them, participating in them.

Ok I see, you don't know how polls work, and how many you need to get statistically secure data...
 
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Ok I see, you don't know how polls work, and how many you need to get statistically secure data...

It still seems illogical that only polling a small percentage, as opposed to polling the greatest majority, that the former would still end up being as accurate as the latter, assuming if one could do two pollings like that, then compare the results.
 
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Yes. Someone should really take over his Twitter account. He simply does not possess the cool head required to share appropriate content and not his every thought.

You surely are correct about that. He's certainly lacked a cool head using reason & discretion on what he posts. More like he's perpetually been a hothead who gets ignited extremely easily & just lets every thought explode out of him. We're not going to see his words ever seasoned with salt and grace. He's in his 70s but requires minders the way that responsible parents still monitor the activity of their middle schoolers when they're allowed to get their 1st social media accounts.

Even if he had a Twitter babysitter he still would relish sowing up discord at rallies, at every opportunity to rile up his base. We need to respond to it as Christians ought to, calling it out as unacceptable. It's beneath the dignity of the office, beneath the dignity of our country.
 
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It still seems illogical that only polling a small percentage, as opposed to polling the greatest majority, that the former would still end up being as accurate as the latter, assuming if one could do two pollings like that, then compare the results.

Well, despite your incredulity it works...
 
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You surely are correct about that. He's certainly lacked a cool head using reason & discretion on what he posts. More like he's perpetually been a hothead who gets ignited extremely easily & just lets every thought explode out of him. We're not going to see his words ever seasoned with salt and grace. He's in his 70s but requires minders the way that responsible parents still monitor the activity of their middle schoolers when they're allowed to get their 1st social media accounts.

Even if he had a Twitter babysitter he still would relish sowing up discord at rallies, at every opportunity to rile up his base. We need to respond to it as Christians ought to, calling it out as unacceptable. It's beneath the dignity of the office, beneath the dignity of our country.

It seems to be working for him though, there are a lot of voters who love it when he attacks people they don’t like. There is some method in his madness. This piece here has a go at interpreting some of the shenanigans Trump and those around him are up to: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ing-an-ugly-game-with-white-voters/?tid=sm_fb
 
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Obama wasn't elected in 2016.

Maybe I was being too subtle and dates are confusing. I was talking about the traitor currently occupying the White House.

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Sweden's rape rate under the spotlight

Hundreds protest in Sweden after series of gang rapes | Daily Mail Online

According to an U. N. report, the top 11 countries with the most rapes are:
11 Countries With Highest Rape Crime Rate in the World 2019

They have Sweden as #4. Apparently three other countries have risen above Sweden. nevertheless, you got a problem, not just with rapes but with the cost of supporting your guests and the culture being transformed.

Stick you head in the sand, you are contributing to the cover up that your country is embarrassed about. It is not just U.S. news, conservative news, foreign news as well.

Did you read the sources you quoted? If I'm interpreting your intention correctly, you are trying to show how a cultural change has led to more violent crime. The point the BBC article makes is:

"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.

"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.

So something's going on.

But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.'

The other article (trendrr?) has a similar statement, but also quotes some numbers about increased instances of rape by muslim immigrants in 2013. This statement is unsupported, if you have some other source that gives an indication where this data comes from that would be helpful. It's not clear from the sources you have provided whether there is any like between immigration and high instances of reported sexual assault. There's some breakdown of figures here: 'Most convicted rapists in Sweden foreign'
 
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Did you read the sources you quoted? If I'm interpreting your intention correctly, you are trying to show how a cultural change has led to more violent crime. The point the BBC article makes is:

"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.

"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.

So something's going on.

But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.'

The other article (trendrr?) has a similar statement, but also quotes some numbers about increased instances of rape by muslim immigrants in 2013. This statement is unsupported, if you have some other source that gives an indication where this data comes from that would be helpful. It's not clear from the sources you have provided whether there is any like between immigration and high instances of reported sexual assault. There's some breakdown of figures here: 'Most convicted rapists in Sweden foreign'
Maybe you need to study the history of Islam, how they occupy a territory, grow in numbers and eventually force conversions, not by love. Rape, pillage and plunder are accurate descriptions of their evangelism. Women outside of their religion are considered open game for rape. I just watched a report of how a dozen men will surround the woman, the men on the inside repeatedly rape her as the guards on the outer circle prevent anyone from interfering. One lady was gang raped by 20 men. This is common in Muslim nations against women infidels - nations especially where any of the over eighty Islamic terrorist groups are in a JIHAD. It's not just women, 12 year old girls and younger. It is there history, women are second class among Muslims, but the infidels are considered sub-human trash to them, to use and discard. Muslim fathers murder their own daughters if they leave the faith. Wake up.
The Qur'an commands to "Fight the infidels in all strategies of war..." Decapitation is also their signature of terror. "Do not be friends with Jews or Christians because you'll be like them and allah does not like wrong doers."
How about the scripture that says to chop off a hand and foot on opposite sides?
The Left is suppressing the truth because they are the ones who think like Obama, that if you appease them, play nice, EVEN support them, they will change. THEY HAVE A GOAL TO CONVERT THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERYONE ELSE EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE TO CONVERT, DIE OR BE EXILED.
 
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The Left is suppressing the truth because they are the ones who think like Obama, that if you appease them, play nice, EVEN support them, they will change. THEY HAVE A GOAL TO CONVERT THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERYONE ELSE EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE TO CONVERT, DIE OR BE EXILED.
Yeah, why bother encouraging reform or moderation within Islam when you can just go to war against a billion people instead.
 
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Maybe you need to study the history of Islam, how they occupy a territory, grow in numbers and eventually force conversions, not by love. Rape, pillage and plunder are accurate descriptions of their evangelism. Women outside of their religion are considered open game for rape. I just watched a report of how a dozen men will surround the woman, the men on the inside repeatedly rape her as the guards on the outer circle prevent anyone from interfering. One lady was gang raped by 20 men. This is common in Muslim nations against women infidels - nations especially where any of the over eighty Islamic terrorist groups are in a JIHAD. It's not just women, 12 year old girls and younger. It is there history, women are second class among Muslims, but the infidels are considered sub-human trash to them, to use and discard. Muslim fathers murder their own daughters if they leave the faith. Wake up.
The Qur'an commands to "Fight the infidels in all strategies of war..." Decapitation is also their signature of terror. "Do not be friends with Jews or Christians because you'll be like them and allah does not like wrong doers."
How about the scripture that says to chop off a hand and foot on opposite sides?
The Left is suppressing the truth because they are the ones who think like Obama, that if you appease them, play nice, EVEN support them, they will change. THEY HAVE A GOAL TO CONVERT THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERYONE ELSE EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE TO CONVERT, DIE OR BE EXILED.
From the planet?
 
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Maybe you need to study the history of Islam, how they occupy a territory, grow in numbers and eventually force conversions, not by love. Rape, pillage and plunder are accurate descriptions of their evangelism. Women outside of their religion are considered open game for rape. I just watched a report of how a dozen men will surround the woman, the men on the inside repeatedly rape her as the guards on the outer circle prevent anyone from interfering. One lady was gang raped by 20 men. This is common in Muslim nations against women infidels - nations especially where any of the over eighty Islamic terrorist groups are in a JIHAD. It's not just women, 12 year old girls and younger. It is there history, women are second class among Muslims, but the infidels are considered sub-human trash to them, to use and discard. Muslim fathers murder their own daughters if they leave the faith. Wake up.
The Qur'an commands to "Fight the infidels in all strategies of war..." Decapitation is also their signature of terror. "Do not be friends with Jews or Christians because you'll be like them and allah does not like wrong doers."
How about the scripture that says to chop off a hand and foot on opposite sides?
The Left is suppressing the truth because they are the ones who think like Obama, that if you appease them, play nice, EVEN support them, they will change. THEY HAVE A GOAL TO CONVERT THE ENTIRE PLANET AND EVERYONE ELSE EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE TO CONVERT, DIE OR BE EXILED.

The problem there is the blurring between some general notions, here, and things that are actually happening, as in your earlier post, in which you appear to have conflated the two. In reality it’s hard to get to the core of it because on the ground things are generally more complex than a diet of YouTube vids and 4chan (etc) will lead to to believe. There’s plenty of rape, murder and pillaging in White European history and it hasn’t stopped yet. Generally we’re ahead of current Muslim nations on most scores that I personally would consider important, but that’s just a perspective, and the current trend in politics may be leading us all back into the ‘kill everyone who isn’t like us’ lifestyle.
 
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