How to answer the question "well life would have begun eventually"

[jude77778]

Hello
I always get evolutionists say to me "well life would have begun eventually as the world is billions of years old" how can I answer this please?

 

[Greengardener]

My first thought is to respond with the query, "How would you support that idea, friend?"

 

[GospelS]

Well, there was no earth and heaven until God created them in the beginning.

But you tell them “if life would begin in such a manner, then how great is the wisdom of God that He created such a world where life could begin eventually on its own”.

 

[jude77778]

Thanks, well they say that well after billions of years an earth and a sun eventually developed and then eventually life developed on its own. And that ofcourse billions and billions of years life and planets would develop by themself. I never know how to reply, but theres a couple of interesting replies above thank you. anyone else who wants to chip in please do?

 

[Kate30]

Thanks, well they say that well after billions of years an earth and a sun eventually developed and then eventually life developed on its own. And that ofcourse billions and billions of years life and planets would develop by themself. I never know how to reply, but theres a couple of interesting replies above thank you. anyone else who wants to chip in please do?

Jude the word of God speaks for itself. Science has become a religion for many today. I would not try to get into long discussions or arguments with them unless of course you have a deep calling from the God to do so. Simply say you don’t believe what they say and let your Christian life do the rest. Often just believing on the bible and being a silent witness of the love is like a hot iron apon their souls. I always say No or No thank you to such one’s. It really does make them much angry and more determined but at least some do start to think and search for a deeper meaning to life for themselves.

 

[Paul.]

evolutionists say to me "well life would have begun eventually as the world is billions of years old"

When discussing different points of view always check the question for any unproven assertions. This question makes two claims, 1. Abiogenesis (living matter can arise from non-living matter without intelligent influence) is fact, and 2. the universe has existed for billions of years.

Since the burden of proof is with the person making the claim, you can request that the claims be proven and have a discussion about the validity of either or both claims.

 

[-57]

Hello
I always get evolutionists say to me "well life would have begun eventually as the world is billions of years old" how can I answer this please?

The answer isn't simple. You may want to watch this 13 min long video.

 

[The Barbarian]

I always get evolutionists say to me "well life would have begun eventually as the world is billions of years old" how can I answer this please?

Since evolution isn't about the way life began, you normally wouldn't hear "evolutionists" saying things like that. But the easy answer for creationists who doubt it, is to point out that God created a world in which the Earth itself brings forth life.

As the Bible says.

 

[The Barbarian]

The answer isn't simple. You may want to watch this 13 min long video.
(another video...)

The probability of the Earth bringing forth life is 1.0. God says it did, and that settles it.

But again, remember evolution isn't about the way life began. Darwin, for example, just supposed that God created the first living things.

 

[-57]

The probability of the Earth bringing forth life is 1.0. God says it did, and that settles it.

But again, remember evolution isn't about the way life began. Darwin, for example, just supposed that God created the first living things.

The book of Genesis uses 2 different words for bringing forth life....none of them relate to evolutionism. Your point fails once again.

 

[The Barbarian]

The book of Genesis uses 2 different words for bringing forth life....none of them relate to evolutionism.

ev·o·lu·tion-ism
/ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/izm

noun
noun: evolutionism;

1. 
   
2. 1.
   the stories creationists tell about evolutionary theory, to avoid discussing the real theory.
   "evolutionism is calling God a liar"
   
3. 2.
   the numerous misconceptions creationists have about evolution
   "evolutionism is about the origin of life"
   synonyms: straw man, diversion, misconception

As you learned earlier, evolution is not about the origin of life. Darwin, for example, just supposed that God created the first living things. He did, of course, but used nature to do it.

Evolution, in biology, is only about living populations and how they change over time.

Your ruse fails once again.

 

[-57]

ev·o·lu·tion-ism
/ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/izm

noun
noun: evolutionism;

1. 
   
2. 1.
   the stories creationists tell about evolutionary theory, to avoid discussing the real theory.
   "evolutionism is calling God a liar"
   
3. 2.
   the numerous misconceptions creationists have about evolution
   "evolutionism is about the origin of life"
   synonyms: straw man, diversion, misconception

As you learned earlier, evolution is not about the origin of life. Darwin, for example, just supposed that God created the first living things. He did, of course, but used nature to do it.

Evolution, in biology, is only about living populations and how they change over time.

Your ruse fails once again.

Darwin got it wrong then..and people are still getting it wrong now.

Darwin didn't have the ability to explain original sin and people today still can't explain how evolutionism resulted in original sin.

 

[The Barbarian]

Darwin got it wrong then..

No. The origin of life is not in his theory of evolution. And of course, it's true that God created the first living things. He just did it, using nature to make them.

Darwin didn't have the ability to explain original sin

That's not part of his theory either, but he originally attributed it to Adam and Eve disobeying God. You don't believe it? You have some unusual religious ideas, but I thought all Christians understood that.

and people today still can't explain how evolutionism resulted in original sin.

ev·o·lu·tion-ism
/ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/izm

noun
noun: evolutionism;

1. 1.
   the stories creationists tell about evolutionary theory, to avoid discussing the real theory.
   "evolutionism is calling God a liar"
2. 2.
   the numerous misconceptions creationists have about evolution
   "evolutionism is about the origin of life"
   synonyms: straw man, diversion, misconception

It's just responsible for deluding creationists.

 

[-57]

No. The origin of life is not in his theory of evolution. And of course, it's true that God created the first living things. He just did it, using nature to make them.

There was ex-nihilo as well as using what was already made, for example a rib. But the bible is quite clear evolutionism wasn't the method.

 

[The Barbarian]

There was ex-nihilo as well

Not according to God. The creationist doctrine of "life ex nihilo" is directly ruled out by God's word, telling us that life came from the earth, air and waters. Man's doctrine is "life ex nihilo." God's word is life from the Earth.

But the bible is quite clear evolutionism wasn't the method.

ev·o·lu·tion-ism
/ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/izm

noun
noun: evolutionism;

1. 1.
   the stories creationists tell about evolutionary theory, to avoid discussing the real theory.
   "evolutionism is calling God a liar"
2. 2.
   the numerous misconceptions creationists have about evolution
   "evolutionism is about the origin of life"
   synonyms: straw man, diversion, misconception

 

[-57]

Not according to God. The creationist doctrine of "life ex nihilo" is directly ruled out by God's word, telling us that life came from the earth, air and waters. Man's doctrine is "life ex nihilo." God's word is life from the Earth.

Creationist don't believe "life" was created ex-nihilo.

 

[The Barbarian]

Creationist don't believe "life" was created ex-nihilo.

But you just wrote:

There was ex-nihilo as well as using what was already made, for example a rib.

Which one do you believe?

And yes, creationists do indeed believe that life was created ex nihilo, as you wrote.

"In short, on one hand, the life motif, is developed in the context which depicts the unique identity of God who can alone produce life ex nihilo."
Seibeck, Creation and Christology

It's true that fewer and fewer creationists now make that claim. If you've thought about it, and reject it, then good for you.

 

[-57]

But you just wrote:



Which one do you believe?

And yes, creationists do indeed believe that life was created ex nihilo, as you wrote.

"In short, on one hand, the life motif, is developed in the context which depicts the unique identity of God who can alone produce life ex nihilo."
Seibeck, Creation and Christology

It's true that fewer and fewer creationists now make that claim. If you've thought about it, and reject it, then good for you.

There was ex-nihilo as well as using what was already made, for example a rib.

 

[The Barbarian]

There was ex-nihilo as well as using what was already made, for example a rib.

Give us an example of God not using nature to produce life. All the instances He mentions in Genesis are produced by previously-created things.

 

[-57]

Give us an example of God not using nature to produce life. All the instances He mentions in Genesis are produced by previously-created things.

Concerning life I never said it was ex-nihilo.