This maybe disprove god but what do you think of it?

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I will try to explain what I`m thinking about so simple as possible and here it goes, I don`t know, I always imagened life as a swirling form of energy sort of, bright and swirling in empty space and wanting to have a solid body to walk around in on a planet perhaps, because think about it, how would life form out of nothing on a planet and know how to build a psycical body to move around in, there must have been a will to begin with, where did this will come from to begin with, I think it started with the big bang sort of and life started to evolve in empty space and slowly learning how to build planets and rocks to have something solid to move around on, so big bang theory itself is kinda wrong also beause they say it`s just a explosion of energy, I think the logical explaination is that this life form slowly learned how to spread itself throughout space and how to make stones and planets, think about it, what is really matter? I think matter is energy or this life form in a colder sort of form, this life form cools down when away from the sun and forms then solid matter as we know it and can see around us, so spiritual people are perhaps right also since some of them believe everything is one, all matter would become this life again if warm enough but it keeps vibrating on a certain warmth as long as it gets energy from the sun or this life, if you leave matter all alone and not adding energy to it it would just become hard rock as everything else but it keeps being alive from the warmth of the suns, that`s exactly what I think perhaps, that everything started with life and it slowly learned how to build something of a planet to walk around in, of course all life is different from each other but perhaps the source is all the same or the life, the big bang theory is sort of wrong also then, it didn`t start with an explosion, the explosion was just a way to spread life, what do you guys think about it?

I enjoyed your post. A formal logician, say an apologist or rigid scientist, would find your ramblings to be nonsense, but to those who demand a logical presentation (particularly if it includes empirical evidence), of the existence of the metaphysical, your post, like many other things is an example of what may well be such a thing --of the fact that our minds don't only run in realms of the material, but that the metaphysical has always to some degree been visible to our minds.

And when we see God on that day, it will suddenly become clear all along that his existence has been plainly shown, even in the very mind that seeks to ignore the obvious, in its demand for the empirical.

Thank you. However, I fail to see how that may disprove God.
 
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Perhaps it disproves what I just said, it would take alot of work to create everything yourself really, to design it

To infinite God, what's the difference between a little and a lot?
 
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I enjoyed your post. A formal logician, say an apologist or rigid scientist, would find your ramblings to be nonsense, but to those who demand a logical presentation (particularly if it includes empirical evidence), of the existence of the metaphysical, your post, like many other things is an example of what may well be such a thing --of the fact that our minds don't only run in realms of the material, but that the metaphysical has always to some degree been visible to our minds.

And when we see God on that day, it will suddenly become clear all along that his existence has been plainly shown, even in the very mind that seeks to ignore the obvious, in its demand for the empirical.

Thank you. However, I fail to see how that may disprove God.

Ah, thanks so much, I just wrote what I thought, well I was just thinking if it all started with normal life sort of that there wouldn`t be any god, but god could have been before that again of course
 
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It doesn't disprove God at all.

Smarter people than you have tried and failed miserably.
Some of them even used sentences and paragraphs in their writing, thereby endearing themselves to their readers!
 
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... what do you guys think about it?
It's a nice imaginative story, but not consistent with anything we've actually learned about how life and the universe have developed and work.

Like the conventional scientific view of life and the universe, it doesn't include a god or gods, but that doesn't itself disprove such things - they're simply unfalsifiable concepts.
 
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It's a nice imaginative story, but not consistent with anything we've actually learned about how life and the universe have developed and work.

Like the conventional scientific view of life and the universe, it doesn't include a god or gods, but that doesn't itself disprove such things - they're simply unfalsifiable concepts.

Yes, I understand
 
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If anything...that disproves evolution, which believes everything started with death...
. Your misunderstanding of what evolution is doesn’t disprove evolution. It just shows that you haven’t learned basic science
 
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. Your misunderstanding of what evolution is doesn’t disprove evolution. It just shows that you haven’t learned basic science

Are you saying that science is evolution?
 
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Are you saying that science is evolution?
No I’m saying that evolution IS a science. Real science , mainstream science which has to have verifiable evidence in order to make claims about nature .
 
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actually evolution has many failed predictions:

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Read the link you have provided.
Study the link you have provided.
Access the papers referenced in the link provided.
Read those papers.
Study their conclusions.
Explore a proportion of the further papers cited within them.
Contemplate all of that.
Review your extensive notes from that process.
Return here and confess you had, rather like the authors of the piece, failed to understand either the methodology of science or the pro-evolutionary significance of the referenced research.

Your time starts now.
 
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I will try to explain what I`m thinking about so simple as possible and here it goes, I don`t know, I always imagened life as a swirling form of energy sort of, bright and swirling in empty space and wanting to have a solid body to walk around in on a planet perhaps, because think about it, how would life form out of nothing on a planet and know how to build a psycical body to move around in, there must have been a will to begin with, where did this will come from to begin with, I think it started with the big bang sort of and life started to evolve in empty space and slowly learning how to build planets and rocks to have something solid to move around on, so big bang theory itself is kinda wrong also beause they say it`s just a explosion of energy, I think the logical explaination is that this life form slowly learned how to spread itself throughout space and how to make stones and planets, think about it, what is really matter? I think matter is energy or this life form in a colder sort of form, this life form cools down when away from the sun and forms then solid matter as we know it and can see around us, so spiritual people are perhaps right also since some of them believe everything is one, all matter would become this life again if warm enough but it keeps vibrating on a certain warmth as long as it gets energy from the sun or this life, if you leave matter all alone and not adding energy to it it would just become hard rock as everything else but it keeps being alive from the warmth of the suns, that`s exactly what I think perhaps, that everything started with life and it slowly learned how to build something of a planet to walk around in, of course all life is different from each other but perhaps the source is all the same or the life, the big bang theory is sort of wrong also then, it didn`t start with an explosion, the explosion was just a way to spread life, what do you guys think about it?
That's similar to saying that "direction" is kind of a swirling, bright energy, sort of, and it wanted to build a universe so that it would have something to point at.

So I think your view of "life" is quite baseless.
 
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Science studies how; religion is about who. We should not confuse the two. Science works with empirical evidence, testing, and repeatable (a simplification). Religion is based on belief. Either you believe or you do not.

I firmly believe that we should not be trying to prove or disprove the existence of G-d. It has to do with my religious beliefs.

“For Judaism, the search for religious certainty through science or metaphysics is not merely fallacious but ultimately pagan. To suppose that G-d is scientifically provable is to identify G-d with what is observable, and this for Judaism is idolatry.” ~ Jonathan Sacks
 
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No I’m saying that evolution IS a science. Real science , mainstream science which has to have verifiable evidence in order to make claims about nature .

What part does death play in it?
 
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What part does death play in it?
don’t know, that seems to be a creationist meme. If you mean that a lot of organisms eat others well that’s they way living organisms act. Fungi and bacteria eat plants and animals and vice versa.
 
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