Your cheap shots again and again.
Note, it is very common for one group to condemn the other opposing parties regardless of the truths. This is the same in courts between two opposing parties, where it is up to the jury or judge to decide based on evidences and arguments provided.
Your condemnation of the above critiques of Islam i.e. Ali Sina, Bill Warner, David Wood, Robert Spencer and others is reflecting your lack of IQ and intellectual honesty.
You need to substantiate your accusations. Show me where the above critiques are wrong [to a significant degree] in their references to the original sources.
Here is 100% proof that you, Bill Warner, David Wood, Robert Spencer, ISIS, and all the rest of the Anti-Islamic propagandists and Islamic extremist out there are wrong.
They are wrong because they do not differentiate between the religion of Islam and extremism. What you and the anti-Islamic propagandist are criticizing is not the religion of Islam that almost every Muslim in the world follows; what you and the anti-Islamic propagandist are criticizing is an extremist sect of Islam that is rejected by the vast majority of Muslims in the world. It's not the religion of Islam that Islamic terrorist follow, its an extremist interpretation of Islam.
Below are some excerpts from a Report from the Center for Religious Freedom. As you read these excerpts you will notice that it describes the type of teaching that you are criticizing to the letter.
All Saudis must be Muslim, and the Saudi government, in collaboration with the country’s religious establishment, enforces and imposes Wahhabism as the official state doctrine.
The Wahhabism that the Saudi monarchy enforces, and on which it bases its legitimacy, is shown in these documents as a fanatically bigoted, xenophobic and sometimes violent ideology. These publications articulate its wrathful dogma, rejecting the coexistence of different religions and explicitly condemning Christians, Jews, all other non-Muslims, as well as non-Wahhabi Muslims. The various Saudi publications gathered for this study state that it is a religious obligation for Muslims to hate Christians and Jews and warn against imitating, befriending, or helping such “infidels” in any way, or taking part in their festivities and celebrations. They instill contempt for America because the United States is ruled by legislated civil law rather than by totalitarian
Wahhabi-style Islamic law.
Wahhabism began only 250 years ago with the movement created by fanatical preacher Muhammad Ibn Abd alWahhab. Once a fringe sect in a remote part of the Arabian peninsula, Wahhabi extremism has been given global reach through Saudi government sponsorship and money, particularly over the past quarter century as it has competed with Iran in spreading its version of the faith. With its vast oil wealth and its position as guardian of Islam’s two holiest sites, Saudi Arabia now claims to be the leading power within Islam and the protector of the faith, a belief stated in the Saudi Basic Law. Saudi Foreign Policy Adviser Adel al-Jubeir publicly states that “the role of Saudi Arabia in the Muslim world is similar to the role of the Vatican.” Even as the Saudi state asserts that it strives to keep the faith “pure” and free of innovation, it invents a new role for itself as the only legitimate authority on Islam.
Within worldwide Sunni Islam, followers of Wahhabism and other hardline or salafist (literally translated as venerable predecessors) movements are a distinct minority.
Saudi state curriculum for many years has taught children to hate “the other” and support jihad, a malleable term that is used by terrorists to describe and justify their atrocities... Recent converts with limited experience of Islam can be particularly susceptible to the Saudi publications’ toxic message... The spread of Islamic extremism, such as Wahhabism, is the most serious ideological challenge of our times. Wahhabi extremism is more than hate speech; it is a totalitarian ideology of
hatred that can incite to violence.
Religion is the foundation of the Saudi state’s political ideology, and religion is an important part of Saudi education. Saudi Arabia defines itself as an Islamic state, and has established Wahhabism as the official state doctrine. Saudi Wahhabism is an extreme interpretation of Islam based on a dualistic worldview in which the true “monotheists” are obliged until judgment day to “fight” “polytheists,” and “idolators,” including Christians, Jews, Shiites and insufficiently devout Sunni Muslims.
Adherents of Wahhabism constitute a small minority within world Islam [Fewer than 5%], yet, Saudi Arabia is trying to assert itself as the world’s authoritative voice on Islam. Its conquest of the Hejaz in 1924 gave it control of Islam’s two holiest sites and the Hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that is one of the five pillars of Islam. This role, along with its vast oil wealth, has been used by Saudi Arabia to lay claim to being the leading power within all of Islam and the protector of the faith, a claim emphasized in the Saudi Basic Law.
Saudi state textbooks propound a belief that Christians and Jews and other unbelievers have united in a war against Islam that will ultimately end in the complete destruction of such infidels. Like the statements of Osama bin Laden, they advance the belief that the Crusades never ended and continue today in various forms.
Some of the most disturbing examples include the following (See Appendix A for text excerpts.) Regarding Sunni, Shiite, Sufi and other non-Wahhabi or non-Salafi Muslims, the textbooks:
• Denounce Muslims who do not interpret the Qur’an literally.
• Muslims to hate Christians, Jews, polytheists and other unbelievers.
Christians are considered infidels who must be fought unless they have a protection contract with Muslims
• Jews and the Christian are enemies of the Muslim believers and the clash between the two realms continues until the Day of Resurrection.
• The spread of Islam through jihad is a religious obligation.
• The struggle between Muslims and Jews will continue until the hour of judgment and that Muslims will triumph because they are right and he who is right is always victorious.
• Whoever obeys the Prophet and accepts the oneness of God cannot be loyal to those who oppose God and His Prophet, even if they are his closest relatives.
• It is forbidden for a Muslim to be a loyal friend to someone who does not believe in God and His Prophet, or someone who fights the religion of Islam.
• A Muslim, even if he lives far away, is your brother in religion. Someone who opposes God, even if he is your brother by family tie, is your enemy.
https://freedomhouse.org/sites/default/files/inline_images/Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Invade American Mosques.pdf
https://www.uscirf.gov/sites/default/files/Tier1_SAUDI ARABIA.pdf
Since the above perfectly describes what what you have been posting here on this forum, then this tells you that what you are talking about is Wahhabism and it's teachings rather than the religion of Islam. This perverted sect of Islam is also what the anti-Islamic propagandists like Bill Warner, David Wood, Robert Spencer and the others are trying to convince their followers of as being the religion of Islam. Dr. Bale, one of your sources from another thread, has described these individuals perfectly:
‘Islam bashing’ nowadays normally takes the form of conflating Islam, one of the world’s most historically important and influential religions, with Islamism [Extremism]... or, to be more precise, ‘Islam bashers’ tend to attribute all of the regressive, bellicose and other undeniably negative characteristics associated with Islamism and its jihadist components to Islam in general... What the ‘Islam bashers’ fail to acknowledge is that these particular interpretations are by no means the only possible interpretations of core Islamic doctrines, traditions and values, much less the most authentic, valid or widely shared interpretations... they are clearly not disinterested or neutral observers.
Re Ali Sina, I don't agree with his blanket condemnation of 'Muslims' without separating Muslims from the ideology of Islam. In most cases, Ali Sina had quoted from the Quran and Ahadith directly, so what is wrong with that?
What Ali Sina is doing is following a strict and literal interpretation of the Qur'an and not putting it into historical and textual context. What he and other extremist teachers are doing is ignoring the fact that the Muslims that were being spoken to in the Qur'an lived in a different culture, at a different point in time, and were facing unique situations. As I have mentioned before, the verses in the Qur'an address specific audiences, during a specific point in time, and under specific circumstances. It can be read as if every single verse is addressed to a Muslim living in 2019.
Below is an example of what kind of teaching will result if you follow a strict and literal interpretation of the Bible.
This sect of Christianity believes in the death penalty for things like Homosexuality and Adultery among other sins and they want to see it carried out in every case without exception. They believe that only those who belong to their church are Christians, all other denominations are heretics and damned to hell. Here is an example from a missionaries bio from this sect that shows this:
Previously, Richard had met Jenefer, and gave her the gospel. She was a Pentecostal, but eventually got saved and left the Pentecostal church, got baptized and into a Baptist church. They also teach that being friends with people outside of their church is forbidden, women are to be submissive to their husbands under all circumstances, and women are not allowed to speak a single word within the church.
Now if you interpret the Bible literally and without putting things into textual and historical context, you can come to the conclusions like in the examples above. If you watch a complete sermon from one of these churches they read scripture straight from the Bible and it sounds like this is exactly what the Bible teaches. If one of these churches was the first one that a non-Christian with little understanding of the Christian faith walked into, they would easily be convinced that what the pastor preaching from the pulpit is teaching true Christianity.
The above concept also works in relation to Islam. An Islamic extremists can easily convince a naive recruit with little or no understanding of the religion of Islam that what they are teaching is true Islam. This same principle also comes into play with anti-Islamic propagandist like David Wood and Bill Warner who are exploiting the west's ignorance of Islam.
you came out like a wild animal and tear them to pieces from very bias sources. I wonder you are really a real Christian following the teachings of Jesus Christ.
I'm not one to make allegations against others without merit. Had I never read a single article or report from an outside source about David Wood, Bill Warner, etc; based on my personal knowledge of Islam and more than three decades of interacting with Muslims in different parts of the world I know for certain that what they are saying is in error. I have tried to show where they are in error in my discussion with you, but it's up to you which side you choose to believe.
