Why are most Christians politically right wing?

[Francis Drake]

Secular or Christian?

There is no such thing as Christian socialism. Particularly as it was invented by a God hating atheist.

 

[timothyu]

The Egyptians and Canaanites were the enemies of God under judgement.

And man mimics that and then uses the concept to self justify.

 

[timothyu]

There is no such thing as Christian socialism.

How much did Jesus charge for the loaves and fishes (even at a good reduced Jewish rate)? Were His healings covered by parasitic health insurers? What did The Father charge for the Kingdom to Come. For resurrection? I guarantee you if it was up to man it wouldn't come cheap, Christian institutions have already verified that fact.

 

[Francis Drake]

And man mimics that and then uses the concept to self justify.

That's the condition of fallen mankind and is true for socialism and capitalism.

 

[Francis Drake]

How much did Jesus charge for the loaves and fishes (even at a good reduced Jewish rate)? Were His healings covered by parasitic health insurers? What did The Father charge for the Kingdom to Come. For resurrection? I guarantee you if it was up to man it wouldn't come cheap, Christian institutions have already verified that fact.

And in no place did Jesus confiscate other people's property to do any of this.

What you describe Jesus doing is the best advert for capitalism, -voluntarily using your possession to bless others.

 

[timothyu]

One can live in denial, but the reality is, in America, politics largely consists of a two party system.

Understood but who lets them get away with that? Two parties working for the same local and global corporate money

more often than not, third parties become a means to split the votes of party, effectively doing injury to one party over another.

You miss the point. It is to the advantage of a third party which may never see a majority to align with one party or the other willing to make concessions for the benefit of the people, providing the third party cared about the people. It is strategic and not what a two party system working for the same money in a democracy wants. Otherwise my other option still stands.
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[Francis Drake]

How much did Jesus charge for the loaves and fishes (even at a good reduced Jewish rate)? Were His healings covered by parasitic health insurers? What did The Father charge for the Kingdom to Come. For resurrection? I guarantee you if it was up to man it wouldn't come cheap, Christian institutions have already verified that fact.

If you are serious about the above, stop whining against others, get yourself a serious job to prosper yourself, then distribute your own wealth to the poor.
Then God might take you seriously.

 

[timothyu]

The only instances where civil disobedience is necessary is where laws etc. are clearly opposed to at odds with Scripture. Otherwise Jesus would have us obey civil authorities.

All of mankind is at odds with scripture. That is why Jesus taught division is not to be between man over worldly issues, but between the Kingdom vs the world of man. He simplified the choice but made it harder. Those who stand to lose by people heading over to the Kingdom tend to hide that fact.

 

[timothyu]

If you are serious about the above, stop whining against others, get yourself a serious job to prosper yourself, then distribute your own wealth to the poor.
Then God might take you seriously.

You are using misdirection. I said everyone is capable of helping others, it isn't always about money.

 

[timothyu]

That's the condition of fallen mankind and is true for socialism and capitalism.

Exactly and not just those two. It's why Jesus said to join the ways of the Kingdom rather than those of man.

 

[timothyu]

What you describe Jesus doing is the best advert for capitalism, -voluntarily using your possession to bless others.

Oh are you insinuating that the rich need breaks to have more money so they may create jobs and help the less fortunate. Too bad it never comes to fruition. It may have in the days of small business, industry and farms, but today we are down to a handful of corporates and elite who see themselves as second in command to the god mammon itself.

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

There is no such thing as Christian socialism. Particularly as it was invented by a God hating atheist.

I'm interested in a link to more information.

Something that really almost pushes me over the edge...for the past two and a half years in the mainstream American news it's mostly been about Russian collusion, conspiracy theories of President Trump as a Russian spy a traitor and the like right, and what do the Democrats do, they want to make American more like Russia! Of course they would distance themselves and try to draw distinctions from the Socialism being proposed from Russian Socialism, but words I cannot utter here enter the mind. Is nearly half of America so blind as to not perceive this political maneuver? Or maybe it's that so many really do not care when it comes down to it, political apathy.

 

[timothyu]

Or maybe it's that so many really do not care when it comes down to it, political apathy.

It's a sad fact that for four or eight years the media compliments of the non-ruling party will go after whoever is in power regardless of side. Only benefits the politicians and those who fund them in keeping the game going. Great way to keep people from remembering there is a real world out there and division is not part of it.

 

[Speedwell]

There is no such thing as Christian socialism. Particularly as it was invented by a God hating atheist.

Who?

 

[keith99]

One can live in denial, but the reality is, in America, politics largely consists of a two party system. Voting for a party which has no real "chance" of winning, is akin to not voting at all, sad but true. I would consider voting Constitutionalist if I thought it were possible for a third party to win a Presidential office. It's not even in the realm of possibilities, and more often than not, third parties become a means to split the votes of party, effectively doing injury to one party over another.

Voting for a third party is very different from not voting. If some third party got just 5% of the vote teh 2 major parties would notice. If one got 10% they would be concerned. At 20% they would panic.

That said I would still vote for the lesser of 2 evils if my state was up for grabs. But when it is sure which way my state will go then voting for anyone else sends a message, a small one, but small messages add up.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Voting for a third party is very different from not voting. If some third party got just 5% of the vote teh 2 major parties would notice. If one got 10% they would be concerned. At 20% they would panic.

That said I would still vote for the lesser of 2 evils if my state was up for grabs. But when it is sure which way my state will go then voting for anyone else sends a message, a small one, but small messages add up.

I voted Third Party during the last election because I refused to succumb to the 'lesser of two evils' rationalization and because I couldn't bring myself to vote for either Trump or Hillary Clinton.

 

[iluvatar5150]

So much defensiveness of institutionalisation and a return to the will of man being the ultimate go to.

I'm not defending institutionalism. I'm arguing against simple-minded falsehoods that would pretend that institutions aren't necessary. I can only imagine that the folks who would argue that institutional charities aren't needed have never tried to tackle a program on a large scale, or who don't know anybody who does that sort of work.

And yet people complain about too much government.

I don't think I've ever complained about too much government.

And in no place did Jesus confiscate other people's property to do any of this.

What you describe Jesus doing is the best advert for capitalism, -voluntarily using your possession to bless others.

The OT prescription for not gleaning the edges of the fields was about as close as you could come to having a tax-funded welfare program in an agrarian society without a central government.

 

[CGL1023]

I never understood this because what the right stands for is not even biblical. Two of the things that are absolutely biblical and correct from the right/conservatism are : 1. Anti-LGBT and 2. Pro-Life. And I agree with this, along with general traditional family values and biblical morality. But everything else in the right wing you can argue is completely against Christianity and what Jesus taught. Everything in the right seems to be based on political identity and culture, not Jesus Christ. So I don't understand why right wing politics caters to Christian evangelicals so much.

It had always seemed to me that traditionally Christians were conservative in their views. This view would align with their being slow to change their views with doctrine, politics and personal beliefs. This is in contrast to liberals who desire frequent changes in these fundamental areas.

 

[timothyu]

We live in a society of oppression based upon forced consumerism, be it in order to receive health care in some countries or simply by constant advertising to buy that which we don;t need, being called traitors to the system or societal outcasts if we don't comply.

Both sides would gladly drop their alliances or choosing the lesser evil if something came along that freed them of the oppression. That is why Jesus had so many followers. There was nothing in it for Him. The system has long fought to keep that from happening (and will fight Him if He should chose to return). Those who accept it and play along with it have chosen their own reward.

 

[Pommer]

More Marxist propaganda.
The basis of the Law of Moses is capitalist.

And slavery.