How to choose between creation and evolution.

[inquiring mind]

Show us the math and the data and the findings supporting your assertion, otherwise its just hot air.

You need to let science 'take a hike' for a while and research some other disciplines.

 

[inquiring mind]

... thats a myth.

We know how languages formed and evolved.

Well, you should be able to determine populations too.

 

[Jimmy D]

Tower of Babel

Don't bring that up, it makes it even worse for you, if it really could get worse, which it can't.

 

[tas8831]

Impossible.

And you think that the distinct cultures we see in Egypt, China, Australia, Europe, South America etc sprung up developed their own languages etc in that time?

Adam and Eve had 5 children according to Scripture (or up to 7, or who knows how many given they lived 900 years! - all according to various creationist sites, e.g.,https://creationmoments.com/article/how-many-children-did-adam-and-eve-have/ ), all sons (those named) but apparently at least 2 daughters.

This fact alone (that even the "best" biblical apologist groups can not provide a concrete number of how many children Adam and Eve had) makes ANY claims regarding population growth according to the bible a fantasy proposition at best. This is especially so since the "best" apologists provide no upper end! Any number they need to feed their fantasies will do!

Eve was ~130 when she first gave birth, and Adam died at 930 (which already makes this story nonsense), and since marriage is totally a God thing, surely Eve did not remarry and have more kids with a stranger! So, if Eve did not die before Adam, and she popped out a kid every 9 months after her 130th birthday, she could have had 1066 kids.
Noah was a 10th Generation kid, claimed to have been born in 1056 post-Creation week. He was apparently a spry 600-ish when he built the giant ark with his bare hands and no metal. He only had 3 kids, all sons, who then gave rise to all of the extant cultures and 'races' and such in a mere 4366 years (according to AIG).

So, going from 3 breeding pairs (5 people) 4366 years ago, to 7 billion today is a piece of cake! That is only adding an average of 1.6 million people a year, which, you know, in the 1500s would have enough of a stretch, but what about back in 1000 BC?

Absurd, no matter how you slice it and dice it and slather it with magic.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Genesis 1 only had a population of two.

Little is much when God is behind it.

Yes, we already knew that the Hebrews were rather ignorant when it came to the sciences, but then so was the rest of the world at that time. No need for you to keep insulting those people.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You're the one mything the point then.Genetics can take a hike.

How did Jacob get his flock?

Hint: It certainly wasn't by genetics.

Magic is not much of an answer either.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, we already knew that the Hebrews were rather ignorant when it came to the sciences, but then so was the rest of the world at that time. No need for you to keep insulting those people.

The Hebrews didn't write it, chief.

Adam did.

The ignorant ones are still alive.

 

[AV1611VET]

Magic is not much of an answer either.

Good -- I'll go with "miracles" then.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Hebrews didn't write it, chief.

Adam did.

The ignorant ones are still alive.

Nope, Adam was a myth. How did Adam learn how to write? It says that in the Bible? If you read your Bible the Genesis myth was written by another mythical character. It says nothing about Adam writing anything.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Good -- I'll go with "miracles" then.

Miracles and magic, same thing no matter how much you protest.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope, Adam was a myth.

Either that, or you're mything the point.

How did Adam learn how to write?

He didn't. He hit the ground running.

Adam was created a mature adult without a history.

He was given a job, then a wife.

(Hear that, academia? A job, then a wife. In that order.)

It says that in the Bible?

Yup.

Right next to where It says he could see, walk and talk and reach the fruit up there in the trees.

If you read your Bible the Genesis myth was written by another mythical character.

Adam also wrote it in Jacobean English (okay, this one is just my opinion).

It says nothing about Adam writing anything.

Actually It does.

But I've given you plenty to myth already.

 

[AV1611VET]

Miracles and magic, same thing no matter how much you protest.

Even Pharaoh's magicians -- magicians in the truest sense* -- knew where to draw the line.

Exodus 8:19a Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God:

* Not the sissy type magicians today, who rely on the observers' myopia; putting on fake demonstrations, having to sneak around in the background replacing one another, and contorting themselves in boxes, not wearing any clothes, and doing everything else they can to amuse and distract the crowd. Not to mention having to play with marked cards and hidden coins and balls and scarfs and other things that give academians goosebumps.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Either that, or you're mything the point.He didn't. He hit the ground running.

Adam was created a mature adult without a history.

He was given a job, then a wife.

(Hear that, academia? A job, then a wife. In that order.)
Yup.

Right next to where It says he could see, walk and talk and reach the fruit up there in the trees.
Adam also wrote it in Jacobean English (okay, this one is just my opinion).
Actually It does.

But I've given you plenty to myth already.

You need to quote the Bible where it says that Adam could read and write. And missing the point is your specialty. Let's not project our flaws upon others.
But it is amusing to see you reinterpret the Bible again and again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Even Pharaoh's magicians -- magicians in the truest sense* -- knew where to draw the line.

Exodus 8:19a Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God:

* Not the sissy type magicians today, who rely on the observers' myopia; putting on fake demonstrations, having to sneak around in the background replacing one another, and contorting themselves in boxes, not wearing any clothes, and doing everything else they can to amuse and distract the crowd. Not to mention having to play with marked cards and hidden coins and balls and scarfs and other things that give academians goosebumps.

Sorry, but you can't use a myth to support a myth.

 

[AV1611VET]

You need to quote the Bible where it says that Adam could read and write.

You do it for once.

You're supposed to know the Bible so well.

Impress me.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, but you can't use a myth to support a myth.

With the Bible so full of myths, you'd think It would be sold in college bookstores.

 

[Speedwell]

You do it for once.

You're supposed to know the Bible so well.

Impress me.

Not possible. The Bible doesn't say so.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not possible. The Bible doesn't say so.

LOL -- solid aurum.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do it for once.

You're supposed to know the Bible so well.

Impress me.

Why would I even try? It is a less than honest way of debating.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would I even try? It is a less than honest way of debating.

More like an improvement, if you ask me.