The Book of Enoch?

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If I used the same tactics that you are using to criticize and belittle Anglicism I would get in trouble.
hey, if you know of any arrant falsehoods propounded by Anglicanism, have at it. The 38 Articles are there to be read, if you find any egregious crud there, share it. I don’t have an equity position in the Anglican Communion, and if there’s something there contrary to Scripture, Creeds, or common sense, there then I have no trouble admitting it. Can you say the same about your own reverence for “Enoch”?
 
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If I used the same tactics that you are using to criticize and belittle Anglicism I would get in trouble.
You wouldn't be able to use the same tactics because Anglicans, to the best of my knowledge, do not try to spiritualize errant nonsense.
 
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If I used the same tactics that you are using to criticize and belittle Anglicism I would get in trouble.
I mean technically he is being kinda rude about a holy book that the Ethiopian Church believes is inspired. I’m not saying that someone can’t post why they don’t believe in 1 Enoch but they should at least be respectful.
 
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Can you send me the quote? I've not seen that section.
Actually, the person you are addressing has not ever correctly stated anything in this matter that is written in the Book of the prophet, "Enoch, the seventh from Adam" -as Jude, the brother of Jesus states.
If you read the book about the "luminaries" and their "paths" in the heavens, you will see that there are 6 "doors/portals/courses/" that the sun begins it's yearly orbit around the earth from....
It's a continuous heavenly "course", that the sun and the moon swing around the earth in, beginning at(oops, correction edit) “vernal equinox” as measured from the "navel" of the earth, and rising and setting from that “path’s portal” (the fourth), for 30 mornings and setting for thirty evenings in the same, then it swings to the next portal to continue its course as it circles around to it's most Northeast point at summer solstice, and back to the most Southeast point at winter Solstice..
The years begin at fall equinox as counted from the creation.
The "henges", like Stonehenge that were scattered around the earth kept that calendar perfectly before the flood, and some after....
 
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Messianic Prophecy and the Book of Enoch
Actually, the person you are addressing has not ever correctly stated anything in this matter that is written in the Book of the prophet, "Enoch, the seventh from Adam" -as Jude, the brother of Jesus states.
If you read the book about the "luminaries" and their "paths" in the heavens, you will see that there are 6 "doors/portals/courses/" that the sun begins it's yearly orbit around the earth from....
It's a continuous heavenly "course", that the sun and the moon swing around the earth in, beginning at(oops, correction edit) “vernal equinox” as measured from the "navel" of the earth, and rising and setting from that “path’s portal” (the fourth), for 30 mornings and setting for thirty evenings in the same, then it swings to the next portal to continue its course as it circles around to it's most Northeast point at summer solstice, and back to the most Southeast point at winter Solstice..
The years begin at fall equinox as counted from the creation.
The "henges", like Stonehenge that were scattered around the earth kept that calendar perfectly before the flood, and some after....
 
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Actually, the person you are addressing has not ever correctly stated anything in this matter that is written in the Book of the prophet, "Enoch'
Even the quotes were wrong, eh? <Laugh>

If you read the book about the "luminaries" and their "paths" in the heavens, you will see that there are 6 "doors/portals/courses/" that the sun begins it's yearly orbit around the earth from....
It's a continuous heavenly "course", that the sun and the moon swing around the earth in, beginning at(oops, correction edit) “vernal equinox” as measured from the "navel" of the earth, and rising and setting from that “path’s portal” (the fourth), for 30 mornings and setting for thirty evenings in the same, then it swings to the next portal to continue its course as it circles around to it's most Northeast point at summer solstice, and back to the most Southeast point at winter Solstice..
The years begin at fall equinox as counted from the creation. .
Yep, that's what it says. And it's observably false. Let's be honest, whoever wrote that had not clue one what he or she was talking about. Portals? Really? Spatially, where are they? How does the sun get in and out of them without anyone noticing?Please, let's try and keep some sense of reality here. No "luminary" behaves as described in "Enoch", even if you try to somehow make it symbolic. The old boy was trying to describe what he saw from the ground in one place, and thus it should come as a surprise to no one that his descriptions are hilariously false.
 
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Yep, that's what it says. And It's Observably False. it should come as a surprise to no one that his descriptions are Hilariously False.


Pick One:

Apostolic Oriental Orthodox / Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Biblical Canon Scripture Book Of Enoch From Ancient Times.

Or

Heretical, Heterodox, Schismatic Made Up Church with women and unrepentant homosexual bishops that is "Hilariously False" created by a Murderer King Henry VIII who had two of his wives beheaded.



Choose wisely.
 
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Pick One:

Apostolic Oriental Orthodox / Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Biblical Canon Scripture Book Of Enoch From Ancient Times.
Canon just means it could be read in Church. Not all of what could be read in Church would necessarily be used for doctrine.
 
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I'm way late to this party!

I just started getting interested in the Book Of Enoch after listening to Michael Heiser (A Semitic expert of the Bible). I always have had some interest I've noticed a number of exorcists I've read over the years seems to subscribe to its theory of how the demons came into existence rather than the plane vanilla Christian theory of them just being Fallen Angels etc.


Anyway some of you may like some Heiser's Work
 
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Canon just means it could be read in Church. Not all of what could be read in Church would necessarily be used for doctrine.
I think it means "rule"?
The archbishop of Canterbury of the time of first KJV put a curse on anyone who did not include reading the - so called second canon- books in their yearly readings, and then, a later Archbishop of Canterbury put a curse on anyone who did include the same books in their yearly readings.
It's always been about politics and power and never have all the "Christian" churches agreed on "canon"...
 
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Canon just means it could be read in Church. Not all of what could be read in Church would necessarily be used for doctrine.

Not entirely accurate. Revelation is considered canon, but we don't read it in church.
 
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Not entirely accurate. Revelation is considered canon, but we don't read it in church.
The reason it is not read in Church is because it is not considered canon. It sits in the same category as the Shepherd of Hermas.
 
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Not entirely accurate. Revelation is considered canon, but we don't read it in church.
We read it in Church.
Specific blessings promised for those who read and hear it.
It is, after all, the "Revelation of Jesus Christ".
Rev 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
 
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We read it in Church.
Specific blessings promised for those who read and hear it.
It is, after all, the "Revelation of Jesus Christ".
Rev 1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

I'm guessing you're not Orthodox because in the Orthodox church we do not read Revelation at all Liturgically. It's in our Bibles, but we never read it Liturgically.
 
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