THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

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Of course I did not answer those questions. We have not got past the first question. I said I would be happy to answer your questions if you answered mine.

Your first question was: "Do you believe and do all of God's Word?"

I asked you did my post # 1654 linked here answer your question YES/NO (If no WHY?)

Let's discuss each question one at a time. You need to answer my questions as well and not ignore them. If you do not wish to you do not have to. Either way just let me know.

I know and do ALL of our New Covenant. Now answer my questions.
 
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I know and do ALL of our New Covenant. Now answer my questions.

How does this post of yours answer my question to you? Your just ignroing the question asked of you.

Your first question was: "Do you believe and do all of God's Word?"

I asked you did my post # 1654 linked here answer your question YES/NO (If no WHY?)

Let's discuss each question one at a time. You need to answer my questions as well and not ignore them. If you do not wish to you do not have to. Either way just let me know.
 
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How does this post answer my question to you?

Your first question was: "Do you believe and do all of God's Word?"

I asked you did my post # 1654 linked here answer your question YES/NO (If no WHY?)

Let's discuss each question one at a time. You need to answer my questions as well and not ignore them. If you do not wish to you do not have to. Either way just let me know.

Just answer my last question about keeping the Sabbath. I suspect you want to avoid this question because you don't keep the Sabbath as you claim. Only hypocrites do that maneuver.
 
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Just answer my last question about keeping the Sabbath. I suspect you want to avoid this question because you don't keep the Sabbath as you claim. Only hypocrites do that maneuver.

Yep happy to do so after you answer my question. A discussion goes two ways. If you do not answer my questions after I answer yours then neither do I answer your questions any further. If you answer my questions I already told you I am happy to answer yours. You choose it is not very hard. You either want to discuss the scriptures or you do not. Which is it?
 
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Yep happy to do so after you answer my question. A discussion goes two ways. If you do not answer my questions neither do I answer yours. If you answer my questions I already told you I am happy to answer yours. You choose it is not very hard. You either want to discuss the scriptures or you do not. Which is it?

I did answer your question. You are now lying. You are not an honorable man, and I suspect you do you keep the Sabbath as you claim. I don't converse with hypocrites, but with those who practice what they preach.

Good night.
 
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I did answer your question. You are now lying. You are not an honorable man, and I suspect you do you keep the Sabbath as you claim. I don't converse with hypocrites, but with those who practice what they preach.

Good night.

Really? God is my judge not you *ROMANS 2:1-7. Forgive me if your believe you have answered my question to you. I have not seen your answer. Where did you answer my question? I guess if you have no scripture for what you believe and cannot fault the message the next best thing is to attack the messenger? God's Word is not my word. Your argument is with God not me. Good night sister sleep well.
 
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Really? God is my judge not you *ROMANS 2:1-7. Forgive me if that is the case as I have not seen your answer. Where did you answer my question? I guess if you have no scripture for what you believe and cannot fault the message the next best thing is to attack the messenger? God's Word is not my word. Your argument is with God not me.

You have failed to prove you keep God's word as you claim. You blatantly refuse to answer simple questions. Don't ever post another post on keeping the Sabbath because you don't keep it yourself.
 
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You have failed to prove you keep God's word as you claim. You blatantly refuse to answer simple questions. Don't ever post another post on keeping the Sabbath because you don't keep it.

Well that is not true. Now sister are you telling the truth here? I already said I would be happy to answer your questions if you answer mine as well. I already answered your first question in good faith. You refuse to answer my question after I already answered your first question so neither do I answer anymore of your questions until you answer mine. If you do not wish to answer my questions just say so. Sounds like you are tired and need to rest.
 
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Well that is not true. Now sister are you telling the truth here? I already said I would be happy to answer your questions if you answer mine as well. You refuse to answer my question after I already answered your first question so neither do I answer yours.

Your saying I haven't answered your questions is a blatant lie, and you know it. You are just putting off answering mine. Any fool can plainly see that.
 
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Your saying I haven't answered your questions is a blatant lie, and you know it.

Really? God is my judge not you *ROMANS 2:1-7. Forgive me if your believe you have answered my question to you. I have not seen your answer. Where did you answer my question? I guess if you have no scripture for what you believe and cannot fault the message the next best thing is to attack the messenger? God's Word is not my word. Your argument is with God not me.
 
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Really? God is my judge not you *ROMANS 2:1-7. Forgive me if your believe you have answered my question to you. I have not seen your answer. Where did you answer my question? I guess if you have no scripture for what you believe and cannot fault the message the next best thing is to attack the messenger? God's Word is not my word. Your argument is with God not me.

You KNOW you are lying, so it is between you and God. I know what you are - it is plain for all to see.

Good bye.
 
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You KNOW you are lying, so it is between you and God. I know what you are - it is plain for all to see. Good bye.

Well that is not true and there is no need to be nasty sister. God is my judge not you. I asked you to forgive me if you believe you have answered my question and to show me where you answered my question as I have either missed it or cannot find it. Simple truth is you haven't shown me. Perhaps you will feel better after you have a rest. Good night.
 
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Well that is not true. God is my judge not you. I asked you to forgive me if you say you have answered my question as I have not seen it and asked you show me where you answered my question to you. Simple truth is you haven't shown me.

More lies! When will it stop?

So you think you dodged a bullet with all this crafty unethical maneuvering, huh? Okay, don't answer my question whether you actually KEEP the Sabbath or not. Everyone knows you don't. That is the only reason why you won't answer the question.
 
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More lies! When will it stop?
So you think you dodged a bullet with all this crafty unethical maneuvering, huh? Okay, don't answer my question whether you actually KEEP the Sabbath or not. Everyone knows you don't. That is the only reason why you won't answer the question.

As posted above no need to be nasty and say things that are not true. I already told you I am happy to answer your questions if you answer mine and have already in good faith answered your first question. Go and get some rest it looks like you need it. Good night. Hope you feel better in the morning.
 
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As posted above no need to be nasty and say things that are not true. I already told you I am happy to answer your questions if you answer mine and have already in good faith answered your first question. Go and get some rest it looks like you need it. Good night. Hope you feel better in the morning.

I have answered your questions, but you are saying I haven't, and lie just to have an excuse to not answer mine. You have lost all credibility. If there is a number one thing I hate, it is a cowardly liar. Why you think that is okay is baffling. It is a total lack of conscience.
 
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If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-17.
How many times do you need to bring this up to me? We've covered this ground a couple times. I've no idea why you seem to thing I'll fall for this misrepresentation of the Scripture.
 
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Well that one has no truth in it. You are provided God's WORD and cannot respond to it
I've responded to your passages. Why won't you explain Gal 5 instead of dismissing it because the word circumcision appears in it? You also refuse to address Jam 2:10 which I posted in relationship with my Gal 5 quote.
 
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Nope, what I mean is ONLY God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it *ROMANS 3:4
So you want me to say I'm lying when I present the truth from Scripture you refuse to explain.
 
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So you want me to say I'm lying when I present the truth from Scripture you refuse to explain.

His mask is falling. There is a liar in our midst, and it is not you or me. What is funny is he keeps making posts on we should keep the Sabbath, when he doesn't even keep it himself!
 
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Yes I do however, this statement needs to be considered in the CONTEXT of what it means to be GROWING in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE by BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD which will change as we CONTINUE in God's WORD *JOHN 8:31-36.
But you live in the law, not Jesus. You don't continue in the words of Jesus as your reference says we're to do if we're disciples of Jesus.
When we are BABES in CHRIST we only KNOW the milk of God's WORD *1 PETER 2:2.
Maybe you should read the chapter.
As we GROW in grace we learn more of God's WORD then God expects us to BELIEVE and FOLLOW his Word as he reveals it to us *HEBREWS 5:12-14; 1 CORINTHIANS 3:2; ACTS 17:30. God only holds us accountable to the things we KNOW not the things that we do not KNOW *ACTS 17:30-31; JAMES 4:17. If God reveals to us his Word and we turn away from God's WORD at this point we are not longer following GOD's WORD.
Wow, how nice of you to hide such a claim in your list of references. It's you that needs the nipple. I'm sure not going to let you lose with a knife and fork, you would use it on me instead of the food before you, like you've been doing. I'm dressed in full armor - Eph 6:11-18.
Growing in Grace and learning more through God's WtORD is a work of a lifetime. Here are some the same thoughts expressed thoughts expressed from the scriptures below...

GROWING IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD’S WORD

The Holy Spirit as we continue in God's WORD will help us to have a closer walk with Jesus as we learn of him through his WORD God expects us to change our lives and to live up to all the light he reveals to us through his Word.

2 PETER 3:17-18 [17]
[17], You therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things before, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.
[18], But grow in grace, and in the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
But you want us to only grow in the knowledge of the law. You don't want us to grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2 PETER 1:1-8
[1], Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ:
[2], Grace and peace be multiplied to you through the KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, AND OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST,
[3], According as his divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the KNOWLEDGE of him that has called us to glory and virtue:
[4], Whereby are given to us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[5], And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue KNOWLEDGE;
[6], And to KNOWLEDGE temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[7], And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[8], For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that you shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord Jesus Christ.
So you think you can hood wink us with this you don't promote anywhere. You promote obligation and knowledge of the law in place of Jesus Christ.
now in times of IGNORANCE when we do not know any better as we are babes and children growing in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, God does not hold us accountable to things we do not know and to things he has not revealed to us or has not taught us.
I don't think you can make this claim since you refuse to believe all the Scripture.
ACTS 17:30
[30], And the times of this ignorance God winked at [does not hold us accountable]; BUT NOW [WHEN A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH HAS COME] commands all men every where to repent.
This doesn't mean repent and continue doing the same. That's not repentance.
When God reveals to us a KNOWLEDGE of the truth, then he expects us to change [REPENT] and to BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. At this time God has revealed to us a new KNOWLEDGE to help us to have a closer walk with him.
That's correct.
At EVERY POINT in the Christian life, as we grow in grace and in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, we have a decision to make. Do I NOW BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD? Or do I not BELIEVE God's WORD and not change our lives?
You've clearly made yours and we're made ours.
If we choose NOT to BELIEVE AND FOLLOW God's WORD or simply BELIEVE but DO NOT FOLLOW God's WORD because we LOVE SIN more then having a closer walk with Jesus until we REPENT and BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD we become "UNBELIEVERS" No unbeliever has part in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have fallen from Grace.
According to your posts you live in sin. We called and you refuse to show.
JAMES 4:17 [17] Therefore to him that KNOWS to do good, and does it not, to him it is sin.
By your posts you're in hot water.
If we reject God's WORD when Jesus is calling us to GROW in GRACE and in the KNOWLEDGE of his WORD it is the same as rejecting Jesus.
Yes you've rejected Jesus - Gal 5:1-18.
HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], For if we sin willfully after that we have received the KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,[27], But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Upon reading your posts we know you don't believe this passage.
It is only as we CONTINUE in God's WORD gainig a KNOWLEDGE to Follow Jesus that we continue to be his disciples.
No, it's continue in the words of Jesus as you post in your next quote, not the law.
JOHN 8:31 [31], Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD, then are you my disciples indeed [this means CONTINUE TO GROW in the KNOWLEDGE of God's WORD, BY BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's WORD]; [32], And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
You or we can only be free by following (your word) continue (words of your quote) in the words of Jesus as you quote above, not the law.
If we fail to CONTINUE in his WORD BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's WORD then at that point we no longer are his Children. Many Christians will be lost come judgment day because when God revlealed more of his WORD to them to help them to have a closer walk with Jesus they choose their SINS over the WORD of God.

JOHN 3:19 [19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Is that why you run away from the words of Jesus like Jn 5:24?
SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) God's 4th commandments is not a Shadow law.
Not for the Christian because we have a different covenant. Yes I know you referenced NT passages, but your intent is following the covenant given to Israel in the desert.
It is one of the 10 Commandments that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin. If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
It's your problem since you want to and demand others to follow the law.
 
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