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I'm not good with the history of law. But a good question.So you believe non-whites were not person s at one time?
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I'm not good with the history of law. But a good question.So you believe non-whites were not person s at one time?
So why call them murderers if you do not feel that they deserve a murderers reward?
And asking a question and making an accusation are not one in the same. Your post is accusatory, mine asks a simple question without assumptions.
Does that include you are not allowed to hide Jews and must hand them over to local authority? That would be God's Morality? It is a sin to preach Christ where it is illegal...that is God's Morality?
Your position has loads of logical fallacies and misinterprets Scripture.
By God’s law the premeditated taking of a human life is murder.The law says that is wrong. The women and doctors and nurses and hospitals and insurance agencies are not - guilty of murder.
Proverbs 8:15
By me kings reign, and rulers enact just laws;
The owner knew he had a killing animal.Cow herders put to death over wild oxen are not premeditated murders?
I would think it would be. Lets let women off the hook.
“But if the ox has been accustomed to gore in the past, and its owner has been warned but has not kept it in, and it kills a man or a woman, the ox shall be stoned, and its owner also shall be put to death” (Exodus 21:29)
By God’s law the premeditated taking of a human life is murder.
I forgive him. Let him live.The owner knew he had a killing animal.
This covers it well, but also for conscience' sake:
13 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the [powers] that be are ordained of God.
2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same: 4 for he is a minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake.
Yes, a lot of good discussion material here......which would be more productive if discussed by the objective and without emotion.....if possible.The question of if it is murder and if someone is morally culpable based on numerous circumstances is a different one.
Is it the destruction of innocent human life? Yes. What legal punishments are required, or is mercy...is a different discussion. But it is a discussion that people need to have in the long run theologically.
Yes, a lot of good discussion material here......which would be more productive if discussed by the objective and without emotion.....if possible.
We would need to examine if you can name those who you deem arent "morally culpable" as murderers as well....or as one who committed murder. I thought there was an assumption that they were here.
Also a discussion on whether there is life before birth, as in body with soul and spirit attachment..
These along with your suggestions of forgiveness vs prosecution.
So it’s your position that government equips us for every good work?Yes, and my argument is that your local law is God's Law now.
1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3:1
1 Timothy 2:1-3
For the purposes of this discussion we are speaking of the premeditated decision to end a human life in the womb where the pregnant woman is not at risk of life. So please don’t argue from the life of the mother as before Roe v Wade every state had a provision for the life of the mother.
This being a theology thread I am making the statement that on demand abortion is murder as outlined in Exodus 20:13
It is the premeditated killing of human life (Imago Dei) in cold blood.
It does not because it refers specifically to good rulers. Read verse 3. So by quoting this in response to my questions you are...yes or no saying it is God's Morality that someone should protect Jews from being handed over for genocide? And it is wrong for someone to preach Christ where it is illegal?
Yes or not, stop the evasion. If you hold to your claim that you said yes to earlier your answer here is yes. If you rightly see now how that claim is wrong your answer is no.
Pretty simple. .
So:
Does that include you are not allowed to hide Jews and must hand them over to local authority? That would be God's Morality? It is a sin to preach Christ where it is illegal...that is God's Morality?
Yes or no?
Do you see where the needed logic to justify abortion leads?
Does financial means change the moral worth of a human being developing in the womb?Same thing is with abortion.. although abortion has been assisted with pop culture garbage that made this stuff look cool. The practical way of all of this to fight the over pricing of everything.
If we follow this out logically, then we could say that cold blooded murder of adults does not kill souls or spirits, only flesh. Yet, I'm pretty sure we would say that cold blooded murder of adults is immoral and wrong.I believe it is the spirit that is made in the image of God....not the flesh.......i would liken the flesh to the dust of the ground.....to which it will return..... I do not believe abortion kills souls or spirits.....only flesh.......
This is honestly nothing short of asinine and utterly false. In fact, I would be willing to bet money that you couldn't find a single credible theologian who actually agrees with you.Yes, and my argument is that your local law is God's Law now.
If this were true, then Paul was sinning when he declared to the church in Corinth:Man is not qualified to judge the sin of others.
God sees the heart instead.
Yes, we are to obey even evil leaders and authorities.
It does not because it refers specifically to good rulers. Read verse 3.
Verse 3
English Standard Version
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
Berean Study Bible
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval.
Berean Literal Bible
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Now do you desire not to fear the authority? Do the good, and you will have praise from him.
New American Standard Bible
For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same;
King James Bible
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Christian Standard Bible
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval.
Nothing here about ignoring evil rulers.