Swamp Draining Status?

[LostMarbels]

This thread is about draining the swamp.. right? Do any of you responding to me deny these arrests and asset forfeitures I presented? Because the truth of the matter is none of this is contingent upon your ridicule or belief.

Right now, present day, arrests and legal actions are undergoing concerning topics the left considers conspiracy theories, and the MSM has blacklisted or even silenced.

These 'non-topics' are causing people to go to prison.

Are you referring to the arrests of those from Trump's team - his ex-advisors etc?
In that regard the swamp is emptying albeit not in the way Trump imagined.

Pushing a debunked conspiracy theory only makes you look like the people still talking about the controlled explosion on 9/11.

Now, Perkins Coie has over 1000 lawyers and has represented a lot of Democrats in the past including folks like Al Frankin. I also see that a few other law firms are on the list. Is it possible that the law firm represented Backpage in some proceedings but because the money was found to have been illegally obtained by Backpage, it was seized with no real deeper meaning than that? Is Thompson Coburn also involved in this? Walters law group too?

Maybe the swamp would empty faster if Donnie wasn’t sitting on the drain hole....

 

[Kentonio]

This thread is about draining the swamp.. right? Do any of you responding to me deny these arrests and asset forfeitures I presented? Because the truth of the matter is none of this is contingent upon your ridicule or belief.

Right now, present day, arrests and legal actions are undergoing concerning topics the left considers conspiracy theories, and the MSM has blacklisted or even silenced.

These 'non-topics' are causing people to go to prison.

Word of advice, you can’t just make some tenuous link between companies, events or individuals and assume that they’re intimately connected. That’s where conspiracy theory madness leads people.

If you find yourself going ‘well company x used this law firm and that law firm also did work for this individual and that individual was guilty of a crime so company x must be implicated!’ then you’re going to end up disappointed by the results.

 

[Zoii]

This thread is about draining the swamp.. right? Do any of you responding to me deny these arrests and asset forfeitures I presented? Because the truth of the matter is none of this is contingent upon your ridicule or belief.

Right now, present day, arrests and legal actions are undergoing concerning topics the left considers conspiracy theories, and the MSM has blacklisted or even silenced.

These 'non-topics' are causing people to go to prison.

I'm not from your country so have no emotional investment in this - but this is what I see you yours and other similar posts....

Yours is yet another of the 100s of posts here aiming NOT to inform, bring understanding etc etc.... Its explicit ambition is to fire a broadside at those who sympathise with a set of politics that oppose yours.

Yours is one of a sea of obvious posts that aim, not to make your country great by bringing it together, but dividing it. The ambition is to point score - anger those of opposite politics....it is, in fact, a metaphorical sticking out of your tongue which quite frankly is tedious and infantile.

I'd love to see a thread, just once, where you and your compatriots from both sides of politics, aim to join forces for the good of all.

 

[LostMarbels]

Word of advice, you can’t just make some tenuous link between companies, events or individuals and assume that they’re intimately connected. That’s where conspiracy theory madness leads people.

You missed the point. This one company is implicated in almost every 'conspiracy theory' out there. Even if other parties are not implicated by association, which I agree with, they shouldn't be, this one entity keeps coming up.

The biggest contention out there, is there is no there. Everything is fake. Everything is a conspiracy theory. And yet we see in real time the same individuals and entities keep coming up in the same topics that are under legal scrutiny, where individuals are going to prison and assets are being seized. This isnt fake. It is happening.

In response to the mockery of: "So what has Trump done to drain the swamp" Im pointing a few things out.

Also in response to the whole mockery of me by pointing out January is almost over. Plenty is being done. Just some are not aware of it.

If you find yourself going ‘well company x used this law firm and that law firm also did work for this individual and that individual was guilty of a crime so company x must be implicated!’ then you’re going to end up disappointed by the results.

No, that's not my thought. When the same name continues to arise in different investigations formed by different agencies that becomes more than suspicious.

 

[Kentonio]

You missed the point. This one company is implicated in almost every 'conspiracy theory' out there. Even if other parties are not implicated by association, which I agree with, they shouldn't be, this one entity keeps coming up.

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No, that's not my thought. When the same name continues to arise in different investigations formed by different agencies that becomes more than suspicious.

From Wiki:

Perkins Coie is counsel of record for the Democratic National Committee, Democratic Leadership Council, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Other political clients include nearly all Democratic members of the United States Congress. It has also represented several presidential campaigns, including those of John Kerry,[2] Barack Obama,[3] and Hillary Clinton.[2] The group's Political Law practice was for many years headed by Robert Bauer and is now chaired by Marc Elias.[4]

This is a company that will come up in some vague way basically any time you look into the Democratic party affairs. They're a vast law firm and represent one of the countries two political parties. It's like assuming Microsoft are suspicious because their name comes up every time you investigate a case of cyber crime. Oh and btw, Perkins Coie represent Microsoft too..

 

[LostMarbels]

Its explicit ambition is to fire a broadside at those who sympathise with a set of politics that oppose yours.

You almost got it, but not quite. I have no ill will towards any of those who are posting contrary to my views, or have a difference of opinion. I do not hate anyone here or even get angry with them. I do not even intend on attacking them as individuals either.

My fight is against the lies and propaganda. I absolutely want to broadside the lies Schumer and Nancey spin every bit as much as a never Trumper wants Trump impeached. But I still don't even view them as the enemy.

Yours is one of a sea of obvious posts that aim, not to make your country great by bringing it together, but dividing it. The ambition is to point score - anger those of opposite politics....it is, in fact, a metaphorical sticking out of your tongue which quite frankly is tedious and infantile.

I'm not trying to point score. I actually pray that God will humble me and allow me to speak with grace. What I am saying is offensive in of itself because it opposes peoples way of thinking. Think along the lines of Jesus speaking to the Pharisees. I am not lying, nor bearing false witness. I am not saying something just because it is offensive. I presented actual legal documents pertaining to real world cases still ongoing. Some do not want to hear what I say because it challenges what they want to believe.

To say absolutely nothing is going on is incorrect. People are going to prison. Business are getting shut down. Billions of dollars in assets are being seized. Trump is working on draining the swamp. There is no emotion attached to that. It is just straight up fact.

I'd love to see a thread, just once, where you and your compatriots from both sides of politics, aim to join forces for the good of all.

So would I. Unfortunately there are some very powerful and persuasive people in the media that tend to lie to good people and make them stray from what is actually going on.

 

[LostMarbels]

From Wiki:

This is a company that will come up in some vague way basically any time you look into the Democratic party affairs. They're a vast law firm and represent one of the countries two political parties. It's like assuming Microsoft are suspicious because their name comes up every time you investigate a case of cyber crime. Oh and btw, Perkins Coie represent Microsoft too..

Everything you are bringing up will be discussed in court. The indictments and arrests have already been made and they will have their day before a judge. Who did what, and who is guilty of what will be decided in court. I am not even trying to argue that.

The entire premise, of this entire thread, is that Trump isn't doing anything to drain the swamp. And that he has even failed in that. That is wrong.

There are currently cases being heard concerning almost every sensational story you have heard during this administration. From pizzgate to uranium one. That information is purposely being withheld from the public. The MSM doesn't even touch it.

 

[Kentonio]

The entire premise, of this entire thread, is that Trump isn't doing anything to drain the swamp. And that he has even failed in that. That is wrong.

Half his cabinet choices have turned out to be corrupt. It's hardly likely to fill anyone with confidence that he's draining a swamp.

There are currently cases being heard concerning almost every sensational story you have heard during this administration. From pizzgate to uranium one. That information is purposely being withheld from the public. The MSM doesn't even touch it.

Ok, please provide us with information regarding exactly what court case is being heard that is directly connected to the ridiculous pizzagate conspiracy theory. Also Uranium One if you have time please.

 

[LostMarbels]

Half his cabinet choices have turned out to be corrupt. It's hardly likely to fill anyone with confidence that he's draining a swamp.

Ahh.. hit it on the head. Any reason why so many oppose him on both sides of the isle? Criminals don't want to get caught. They will even lie to keep from getting caught. What is coming down the line many are trying to flee by any means.

Ok, please provide us with information regarding exactly what court case is being heard that is directly connected to the ridiculous pizzagate conspiracy theory. Also Uranium One if you have time please.

First off... 'pizzagate' is actually a misnomer. The entire situation had nothing to do with a pizza parlor. That was spin to throw off the hounds.

100% legit... honestly what info are you looking for? I do not want to spend, sometimes days, looking for everything to just get poo pooed by a snarky one line quip.

 

[LostMarbels]

Honestly tho... no one has even acknowledged or even looked into what I have already presented. Why provide more?

 

[Kentonio]

Ahh.. hit it on the head. Any reason why so many oppose him on both sides of the isle? Criminals don't want to get caught. They will even lie to keep from getting caught. What is coming down the line many are trying to flee by any means.

Why would you possibly believe that a guy with a long recorded business history of dishonesty, fraud and malpractice would be the one to clear up a corrupt system? He's been proven in court on multiple occasions to be both corrupt and a liar. Why are you hitching your wagon to this guy as some kind of Elliot Ness?

First off... 'pizzagate' is actually a misnomer. The entire situation had nothing to do with a pizza parlor. That was spin to throw off the hounds.

100% legit... honestly what info are you looking for? I do not want to spend, sometimes days, looking for everything to just get poo pooed by a snarky one line quip.

I just want some proof to support your claim that there are currently court cases underway regarding Pizzagate and Uranium One that somehow prove those have legitimacy and are not just right wing conspiracy fantasies.

 

[LostMarbels]

Why would you possibly believe that a guy with a long recorded business history of dishonesty, fraud and malpractice would be the one to clear up a corrupt system? He's been proven in court on multiple occasions to be both corrupt and a liar. Why are you hitching your wagon to this guy as some kind of Elliot Ness?

I don't. I believe the court documents that speaks to the contrary of the mainstream narrative. We have all the information right in front of us behind this screen.

I just want some proof to support your claim that there are currently court cases underway regarding Pizzagate and Uranium One that somehow prove those have legitimacy and are not just right wing conspiracy fantasies.

Here ya go:
Swamp Draining Status?

It's a starting point. Research what the entire ordeal is about. Research keywords. Backpage. Backpage Perkins Coie. Perkins Coie Steele. and so on. Read articles from the media and follow trails. Research what I presented and find faults in my argument. Check docket registries. You can also find stuff on law enforcement websites like the FBI.

Documentcloud.org Find links to that site using keywords. Such as: backpage documentcloud. Backpage legislation. and so on.

 

[Kentonio]

Here ya go:
Swamp Draining Status?

It's a starting point.

Ok, let's take this one step at a time. Backpage are certainly under investigation due to their advertising services allegedly being knowingly used for prostitution and human trafficking including of minors. Now you stated that "It is directly associated to the 'fake' Pizzagate scandal". How exactly is Backpage directly associated to the Pizzagate conspiracy theory?

 

[LostMarbels]

Ok, let's take this one step at a time. Backpage are certainly under investigation due to their advertising services allegedly being knowingly used for prostitution and human trafficking including of minors. Now you stated that "It is directly associated to the 'fake' Pizzagate scandal". How exactly is Backpage directly associated to the Pizzagate conspiracy theory?

This is a can of worms I honestly hope you are willing to research instead of just dogpiling me. The coding used to make orders, such as Pizza, Map, Hotdog and so on comes from Backpage, not Ping Pong Pizza. The pizza Parlor was used to confuse the issue and spin the story. In the Podesta emails and the like, when they referred to these terms they weren't talking about the pizza joint, that is how you ordered child prostitutes from Backpage.

It's sick. I know.

 

[Kentonio]

This is a can of worms I honestly hope you are willing to research instead of just dogpiling me. The coding used to make orders, such as Pizza, Map, Hotdog and so on comes from Backpage, not Ping Pong Pizza. The pizza Parlor was used to confuse the issue and spin the story. In the Podesta emails and the like, when they referred to these terms they weren't talking about the pizza joint, that is how you ordered child prostitutes from Backpage.

It's sick. I know.

I'm not dogpiling you, I'm genuinely interested in following through your line of logic and seeing how it stands up. I also don't automatically discard any concept that the powerful and wealthy could be involved in abuse of minors, as there has been a very strong suspicious of exactly this happening both in the UK and the US over a very long period. The likes of Epstein (good friends with Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew and many more) getting caught red handed as a serial child abuser and then walking away with a slap on the wrist doesn't do anything to reduce suspicious either.

Now you talk about Podesta emails, do you have a link handy to these please? I'd be interested to see them.

 

[LostMarbels]

I'm not dogpiling you, I'm genuinely interested in following through your line of logic and seeing how it stands up. I also don't automatically discard any concept that the powerful and wealthy could be involved in abuse of minors, as there has been a very strong suspicious of exactly this happening both in the UK and the US over a very long period. The likes of Epstein (good friends with Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew and many more) getting caught red handed as a serial child abuser and then walking away with a slap on the wrist doesn't do anything to reduce suspicious either.

No, I agree. Hang them. You don't mess with children.

Now you talk about Podesta emails, do you have a link handy to these please? I'd be interested to see them.

I don't know if I can link to that on CF. There is material that can get me banned? Wikileaks... Tor....

 

[Allandavid]

I see Roger Stone has been arrested.

That’ll remove a good portion of the swamp....

 

[LoAmmi]

Everything you are bringing up will be discussed in court. The indictments and arrests have already been made and they will have their day before a judge. Who did what, and who is guilty of what will be decided in court. I am not even trying to argue that.

The entire premise, of this entire thread, is that Trump isn't doing anything to drain the swamp. And that he has even failed in that. That is wrong.

There are currently cases being heard concerning almost every sensational story you have heard during this administration. From pizzgate to uranium one. That information is purposely being withheld from the public. The MSM doesn't even touch it.

I never disputed the facts, I merely presented an alternative theory. I have not seen any of these arrests you claim.

 

[cow451]

Deny, mock, and have fun with it. The investigations, seized asset forfeitures, and arrests are ongoing in spite of whether or not you understand the swamp is currently being drained or not.

The Arkansas FBI have dug so deep into the Clinton Foundation they have hit bedrock. No more pay dirt left. Do they stop? Nope, they get bigger tools and cooperate with other departments to continue.

Never mind all that. You just keep doing what you do.

And what part of this has to do with Pizzagate? There is no Arkansas FBI. You must mean a state agency. I have no problem with whatever a real life investigation finds. But the Pizzagate thing must be driving up aluminum prices.

 

[cow451]

You missed the point. This one company is implicated in almost every 'conspiracy theory' out there. Even if other parties are not implicated by association, which I agree with, they shouldn't be, this one entity keeps coming up.

The biggest contention out there, is there is no there. Everything is fake. Everything is a conspiracy theory. And yet we see in real time the same individuals and entities keep coming up in the same topics that are under legal scrutiny, where individuals are going to prison and assets are being seized. This isnt fake. It is happening.

In response to the mockery of: "So what has Trump done to drain the swamp" Im pointing a few things out.

Also in response to the whole mockery of me by pointing out January is almost over. Plenty is being done. Just some are not aware of it.



No, that's not my thought. When the same name continues to arise in different investigations formed by different agencies that becomes more than suspicious.

Even if your “conclusions” are accurate, Donald J. Trump has done zip to drain it. In fact, your logic dictates the conclusion he is neck deep in it.