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I guess.Do I get a response too, @Daniel Martinovich ?
Revelation 19 is the final destruction of the Roman Empire, 1453 AD and the end of the age of the four gentile empires. Revelation 20-22 are all concurrent. It is the age of promise we are living in. The 1000 years illustrates the promise of the kingdom of God filling the earth in Daniel 2 and 7. Gog and Magog illustrate the nations and peoples who seek to stop it. If you know your history. You would know that the prophecy of Daniels 11th of ten horns (Septimius Severus 193 AD) started the war in which the saints were overcome and conquered. You might not know that part but you should know that anytime any peoples or a nation stared getting access to Bible based information; and getting a little Bible based Christianity going. The powers that be would simply wipe them off the face of the earth. Could talk about dozens of different peoples here. I said that to tell you this. The very first people where the general public got access to Bibles, in Northern Europe were also slated for destruction. But another first in human history occurred, (outside of ancient Israel.) The people armed with scripture were not destroyed. They fought the powers that be to a standstill. Cost 30 million lives but nevertheless. They stood. This has been the polar opposite story of the age of the four gentile empires ever since that time. The Peoples that are the most influenced by the Bible have been as a general rule winning the wars of extermination directed agsint them and have created the free world. As you point out with the USA.I respect your position. I believe it is one born of faith and confidence in the power of the Holy Spirit living in us all. I digress
You do realize that all of the devastating events of Revelation occur before the coming of New Jerusalem, yes? God knows His people will be overcome by the rulers, principalities, powers of this dark world.
So how does Gog and Magog tie into this? Well if you notice they look like they are going to win. (They surround the camp of the saints.) But "fire comes down from heaven" and destroys them. If you just look up the word fire. It is the most used illustration in the OT of temporal judgment against nations and massive defeat in war. So look at the age of promise. How many nations and people have decide they were going to conquer the peoples most influenced by Gods word and it always looked like they were going to win? The Holy Roman Empire and the Kings of Europe allied with them. Napoleon, The British empire before the great revivals that transformed it. The Kaisers pagan Germany, The NAZI's, The USSR, Imperial Japan. Now an alliance of the international left and Islam. (Soon to loose and I shutter to see how. ) Ezekiel's vision of Gog and Magog shows this is going to go on quite awhile illustrated by them gather the weapons for 7 years to burn them.
The New Jerusalem does not have 2 chapters of prophecy about it but around 3 dozen. It is interpreted in those 3 dozen chapters as being an illustration of Gods people and in Revelation, of Gods people in the nations that have met the conditions where they can have the promises of God. Like the USA.
If they had not accepted false prophecy in the guise of pop culture end time prophecy teachings. They would have been the dominate influence in politics. As it stands because God cannot develop them in such a way to meet the challenges. We are stuck fighting a war of attrition just to try to hold onto what our forefathers gave us. Which is not going well. The reason they have such a hard time being involved in politics and remaining unpolluted from it is a differ ant story entirety.Well, politics is then a huge factor. Are you saying that Christian's should gravitate to careers in politics to spread the gospel? Because that's what it would take, and the U.N., as a representative example of the heights of colluding world powers, do not care for deferring to Christianity at all. Many members openly oppose it. Most Christian's are not so concerned with attaining worldly power here so as to pursue such a career fraught with manipulation, falsehood, betrayal, factions and self-aggrandizement. That path is reliably anathema to our walk in which we are to remain unspotted from the world, minding our own business, seeking to bring our neighbors to Christ in love, and convincing others that Christ is Lord of Lords not with an intelligent eloquence but by the self-evident power of the gospel alone.
I meant the war of attrition is directed at us. Ancient Israel's enemies fought a war of attrition against it and won. Weakened them morally and spiritually until they were an easy prey for the surrounding kingdoms.The USA is the best example ever of a country founded and guided exclusively on Christian principals, and that was hundreds of years ago. We aren't going to conquer the world through attrition until the old power structure that controls it is removed. In truth, said power structure is being strengthened against Christianity and will continue to be so until the events of Revelation come to pass; not least of all the mass martyrdom of Christians is to be expected. Passive resistance to an unchristian world will be violently eliminated during Tribulation.
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