So, going by your answer, your ministry is to criticise and put down any woman who gets up and preaches the gospel and teaches the Bible? Regardless of the male oversight and her own husband supporting her in her ministry?women are not permitted to teach.
So, going by your answer, your ministry is to criticise and put down any woman who gets up and preaches the gospel and teaches the Bible? Regardless of the male oversight and her own husband supporting her in her ministry?
So, because you didn't answer my direct question, am I right in saying that you don't have a ministry at all?You can twist and think what you want about me, women are not permitted to teach quite simple really not my instructions.
So, because you didn't answer my direct question, am I right in saying that you don't have a ministry at all?
Why I am asking this is that I am puzzled as to why you are so free in criticizing Joyce Meyer and Billy Graham as if you have some sort of God-given authority to do that. Especially if you are not in ministry yourself.
Err umm. Arrrh. .....it doesnt say that actually .women are not permitted to teach.
Err umm. Arrrh. .....it doesnt say that actually .
Pauls says "i" suffer not a woman ....etc .and he had good reason and i agree with his reason . but no blanket ban was made
Now now Oscarr ...youd have to define success in ministry...Most of the criticism comes from the "tall poppy" syndrome, from less talented folk who are just plain jealous of her success in ministry.
Yes thanks .we know the scripture.But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Yes thanks .we know the scripture.
And as i said i agree with pauls reasoning.
But as i also said .. This is Pauls own declaration of what HE personaly disallowed And why.
Paul is not moses. He is writing a letter NOT a new law book.
It is of interest that many things he wrote he repeated to many differing groups.. But not this issue.
Nor head covering either.
You asked why her ministry is called "Joyce Meyer Ministries" And I asked you why Billy Graham"s ministry was called "The Billy Graham Foundation". And you gave some sort of strange comment as if you were trying to prove a point, but because I'm not a mind reader, I didn't catch what your point was.Interesting touch on oversight [JOYCE MERES MINESTRY]
For a start you didn't answer my question, billy graham has nothing to do with this, it was you that brought his name up.
You have posted and opposed truth I have questioned what you have put down.
ITs not a criticism scripture is clear on the matter.
Have you ever listened to her...?Yes, I did ask as it's her ministry and she is teaching under her ministry, the scriptures speak against what she is doing.
So just because people attend her ministry or watch her on tv it does not mean that she is leading them to the almighty.
Speak for your self when talking about typing on a computer, pot kettle black about using the words critics go back and read your own post to others.
Scripture is absolute truth it's not to be twisted to suit how you feel on the matter.
OkHave you ever listened to her...?
And If not, then you should not judge, because you way beyond qualified...
We can learn from anyone, and we can all learn from each other... Only what we take with us or say is a part of us, or not us, is the only thing that should matter to us... And learn about ourselves from the parts that is us and about others from the parts not us...
She knows a lot about people and you could learn a lot from her...
God Bless!
I guess you don't agree with Philip's four daughters who prophesied in church. Especially when the early church definition prophecy was also inspired preaching. And Aquilla's wife Priscilla must have been out of order, because she preached alongside her husband and helped to teach Apollos the "better way" of the Lord. Oh, and Lydia, who led a prayer group in a town where Paul met her.Yes, I did ask as it's her ministry and she is teaching under her ministry, the scriptures speak against what she is doing.
So just because people attend her ministry or watch her on tv it does not mean that she is leading them to the almighty.
Speak for your self when talking about typing on a computer, pot kettle black about using the words critics go back and read your own post to others.
Scripture is absolute truth it's not to be twisted to suit how you feel on the matter.
Good night oscarI guess you don't agree with Philip's four daughters who prophesied in church. Especially when the early church definition prophecy was also inspired preaching. And Aquilla's wife Priscilla must have been out of order, because she preached alongside her husband and helped to teach Apollos the "better way" of the Lord. Oh, and Lydia, who led a prayer group in a town where Paul met her.
This is the Scripture too. I wonder why Paul didn't censure Priscilla for giving teaching to Apollos, and Lydia for leading a church?
My coach as turned into a pumpkin now seeing that it is 12:45am, so I'm off to bed. I will respond in the morning.
Yes thanks .we know the scripture.
And as i said i agree with pauls reasoning.
But as i also said .. This is Pauls own declaration of what HE personaly disallowed And why.
Paul is not moses. He is writing a letter NOT a new law book.
It is of interest that many things he wrote he repeated to many differing groups.. But not this issue.
Nor head covering either.
Yes thanks .we know the scripture.
And as i said i agree with pauls reasoning.
But as i also said .. This is Pauls own declaration of what HE personaly disallowed And why.
Paul is not moses. He is writing a letter NOT a new law book.
It is of interest that many things he wrote he repeated to many differing groups.. But not this issue.
Nor head covering either.
I guess you don't agree with Philip's four daughters who prophesied in church. Especially when the early church definition prophecy was also inspired preaching. And Aquilla's wife Priscilla must have been out of order, because she preached alongside her husband and helped to teach Apollos the "better way" of the Lord. Oh, and Lydia, who led a prayer group in a town where Paul met her.
This is the Scripture too. I wonder why Paul didn't censure Priscilla for giving teaching to Apollos, and Lydia for leading a church?
My coach as turned into a pumpkin now seeing that it is 12:45am, so I'm off to bed. I will respond in the morning.