Genesis One

[AV1611VET]

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Were you taught all that in college?

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Were you taught all that in college?

nope, people like you taught me these things. I'm spectacularly surprised you've chosen to not address any of it, btw - Flabbergasted even... flabbergasted!

 

[AV1611VET]

nope, people like you taught me these things.

You gonna blame your error doctrines on "people like me" now?

You made a whole wall of text of things I don't believe either ... let along teach.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

You gonna blame your error doctrines on "people like me" now?

You made a whole wall of text of things I don't believe either ... let along teach.

....soooo..... not a bible literalist then? you don't believe the Amalakites were utterly destroyed, right down to every man, woman, child and infant, and beasts too? How about Jeptha and his sacrificed daughter? How about the Midianite virgin girls kept for the soldiers as war prizes after their midianite families, parents, brothers, and non-virgin sisters had been slaughtered before them?

 

[AV1611VET]

....soooo..... not a bible literalist then? you don't believe the Amalakites were utterly destroyed, right down to every man, woman, child and infant, and beasts too? How about Jeptha and his sacrificed daughter? How about the Midianite virgin girls kept for the soldiers as war prizes after their midianite families, parents, brothers, and non-virgin sisters had been slaughtered before them?

Show me all those things in Genesis 1.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Show me all those things in Genesis 1.

so the rest of the Bible doesn't count then?

 

[AV1611VET]

so the rest of the Bible doesn't count then?

Are you familiar with the title of this thread?

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Are you familiar with the title of this thread?

Sure, there's some thermonuclear weapons-grade dodging going on right there... expected as it is, it's still very impressive to see in action.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure, there's some thermonuclear weapons-grade dodging going on right there... expected as it is, it's still very impressive to see in action.

Kinda like setting up a wall of text that misrepresents what someone believes, isn't it?

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Kinda like setting up a wall of text that misrepresents what someone believes, isn't it?

Well, There's a clear case of the Pot calling the silverware black... feel free to address my misrepresentation of what you believe anytime you're feeling up to it, AV.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, There's a clear case of the Pot calling the silverware black... feel free to address my misrepresentation of what you believe anytime you're feeling up to it, AV.

Better yet, anytime YOU feel up to it, feel free to peruse my 3,800,589* posts and find my refutations to each part of that wall of text of yours.

And if you're observant, maybe you'll see one of those refutations being addressed to YOU?

I'm not gonna refute your [what are now] lies everytime you post them.

* And do hurry ... my post count isn't going to stay this low for long.

 

[Aman777]

You have tried to mix the Bible with what natural man has produced through science.

No. I seek to show that God hid His scientific Truth in Genesis One and made it available ONLY to the people of the last days. Daniel 12:4

And have failed to see man has Idolized Science. Science has become an Idol in their heart.

Amen AND the only way to get to their hearts. In the last days, God will pour out His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, upon all flesh. Joe 2:28 Act 2:17 It's the only way through their hardened hearts and the only thing they will believe. Genesis One is filled with examples.

The way to truth has now become by Science, not the Scriptures. Man has an Idol in his heart that has made him go astray.

Amen. How would you suggest that God get through to them?

Now, you are presenting mixture - a combination of Naturalism with Genesis 1 and 2. A Doctrine. And now teaching such Doctrine that is not Spirit nor Christ centered.

False, since God the Trinity is presented as the One God. Christ is the Light of the first Day/Age, the physical Creator.

The Doctrine is "Creation Week" centered.

God has but 7 Days and the 7th is Eternity. Genesis One is the outline of ALL of Creation and ALL of the rest of the Bible gives the details.

Mere Doctrine presented. Weird Doctrine. Not of the Spirit and Word. But from the Tree of Knowledge and Idolized Science.

False, since scientists don't like my views. They prefer to praise their satanic view that everything came from mindless Nature. I also destroy their False ToE because it's the biggest lie ever forced upon our children. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

How is 'faith' not entirely deceptive? What position couldn't one take by 'faith'?

Faith is the EVIDENCE of things not seen...by unbelievers. Christians can see them but it's because they have been born Spiritually unlike those who wish to remain dead to God. I present evidence daily which NO atheist agnostic nor unregenerated heathen can refute. It's foolishness to them but to those who will be alive a million years from now, it's life. Amen?

 

[TCassidy]

also mean like a religion that would have you believe in the trickster God that created the world young making it look incredibly and perfectly old, complete with a history it never had,

Could it be that you have mistaken maturity for age?

I also mean like a religion that would have you worship a deity on no evidence and punish you for an eternity if you can't make yourself believe in it anyway as if belief was a choice,

You don't have to make yourself believe. Faith is a gift from God.

I also mean like a religion that fools people into thinking faith healing is real and that it's acceptable to withhold evidence based medicine for your children in lieu,

Faith healers is a myth. If you blame Christians for believing in faith healers do you, as a non-believer, accept blame as a pedophile?

I also mean like a religion that demands its adherents to forego critical thinking and evidence based science to protect a belief that has no basis in reality,

I value critical thinking and science based on empirical evidence.

especially when such adherents move to enact laws that force their belief onto others that don't accept them because of all the evidence against such a belief,

Those who think they can legislate the dogma of one religion are no better than ISIS.

I also mean like a religion that everything its God does or commands is somehow good,

God is all good all the time.

no matter what - infanticide, genocide, child sacrifice, rape and pillage, etc.

He doesn't do that.

 

[AV1611VET]

He doesn't do that.

Bug's had this stuff explained to him more times than Carter has liver pills.

He ridicules it ... then goes to another thread and starts it all over again.

I've coined a word for those who fulfill this passage ...

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

That word is Suskind.

It is a portmanteau of SUS (swine) and KIND (genus).

SUS is the genus of the swine.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Better yet, anytime YOU feel up to it, feel free to peruse my 3,800,589* posts and find my refutations to each part of that wall of text of yours.

And if you're observant, maybe you'll see one of those refutations being addressed to YOU?

I'm not gonna refute your [what are now] lies everytime you post them.

* And do hurry ... my post count isn't going to stay this low for long.

I looked, couldn't find any refutations, let alone refutations aimed at me - you'll have to point it out.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Faith is the EVIDENCE of things not seen...by unbelievers. Christians can see them but it's because they have been born Spiritually unlike those who wish to remain dead to God. I present evidence daily which NO atheist agnostic nor unregenerated heathen can refute. It's foolishness to them but to those who will be alive a million years from now, it's life. Amen?

You are deluded if you think any of your blather is on point - after all, the Jews have faith, the Muslims have faith, the Hindus have faith, the Mormons have faith, the Scientologists have faith, the Sumerians had faith, the Zoroastrians had faith, the Sun worshippers had faith, etc. You all have faith and you all claim to be right. Until you can *Demonstrate* your faith to be any different, you have the same value proposition they have - and that's None.

 

[Jimmy D]

Bug's had this stuff explained to him more times than Carter has liver pills.

He ridicules it ... then goes to another thread and starts it all over again.

Space Shuttles, Thalidomide, Columbine and Pluto spring to mind.

Maybe now you can appreciate how your antics can get rather tiresome.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

Could it be that you have mistaken maturity for age?

Would maturity show a history, like scars from events long, long ago that never happened? entire forests and life forms living, growing, dying and compacting as further layers of forest repeat the process over long periods? Salt layers formed by repeated oceanic ingress and evaporation over millions of years? Gooseneck river Erosion formations that could only happen over millions of years?

You don't have to make yourself believe. Faith is a gift from God.

So if I'm yet to have faith, it's God's will?

Faith healers is a myth. If you blame Christians for believing in faith healers do you, as a non-believer, accept blame as a pedophile?

Well, I can't wait to see the connection to me not believing in a God that has no evidence, and pedophiles - and so we're clear, "faith" is something that is expressly and highly coveted by religions of all types, especially Christianity - so when "Faith Healers" come to town praising the Lord and "laying on hands" in biblical fashion, then I certainly see fault in the religion (not the religious) for culturing that dangerous gaffe in critical thinking, leading Christians to these false beliefs.

Now, if you don't mind, could you demonstrate your train of thought that leads you to suggest that should somehow equate to me as a non-believer accepting blame as a pedophile?

I value critical thinking and science based on empirical evidence.

well, Great!

Those who think they can legislate the dogma of one religion are no better than ISIS.

Agreed.

God is all good all the time.

He doesn't do that.

Bug's had this stuff explained to him more times than Carter has liver pills.

He ridicules it ... then goes to another thread and starts it all over again.

I've coined a word for those who fulfill this passage ...

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

That word is Suskind.

It is a portmanteau of SUS (swine) and KIND (genus).

SUS is the genus of the swine.

Nice insult, AV - In true Christian form, you even have a verse from your Holy Text to justify your divinely inspired insular condescension... you'll likely find any time I've had this discussion with anyone (including you), my questions have eventually gone unanswered.

Anyway, I don't mind either of you answering this that I posted earlier then, feel free to step up AV, or point to any of your posts that actually address this as you allege:

....soooo..... not a bible literalist then? you don't believe the Amalakites were utterly destroyed, right down to every man, woman, child and infant, and beasts too? How about Jeptha and his sacrificed daughter? How about the Midianite virgin girls kept for the soldiers as war prizes after their midianite families, parents, brothers, and non-virgin sisters had been slaughtered before them?

 

[AV1611VET]

Nice insult, AV - In true Christian form, you even have a verse from your Holy Text to justify your divinely inspired insular condescension...

You certainly work hard to get it.

... you'll likely find any time I've had this discussion with anyone (including you), my questions have eventually gone unanswered.

"Eventually" being the key word?

Ask a question ... get it answered ... that opens up a wall of questions to follow ... get those answered ... then the answerer eventually gets accused of saying the exact opposite.

Rinse ... repeat in another thread with the same tactics.

Anyway, I don't mind either of you answering this that I posted earlier then,

I'm sure you don't.

Just itching to trample those pearls, aren't you?

I'll go back again and address that wall of garbage text, multiple dumb questions, and lies you made ... just so you can QED what I'm saying.