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Well, I'm rooting for you! :cheer:

Also, remember this post?


I've been keeping up with the thread and I'd like to say that Southernscotty has received so much love and support from many around him, in real life and on CF. Everybody's been working hard to be there and help him heal, and it's so wonderful of them. Such kindness warms my heart. :purpleheart:
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@Saucy and @ImAllLikeOkWaitWat thanks for letting me know. I'm not having results like that but it may have to do with my health issues. Most of my benefits have so far not been scale victories. I drink about a gallon of water a day and have about 20 to 30 carbs a day. I do eat 3 times a day but I very rarely snack which is a huge improvement already. I may try to do intermittent fasting starting tomorrow but I need to do more research.
 
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@Saucy and @ImAllLikeOkWaitWat thanks for letting me know. I'm not having results like that but it may have to do with my health issues. Most of my benefits have so far not been scale victories. I drink about a gallon of water a day and have about 20 to 30 carbs a day. I do eat 3 times a day but I very rarely snack which is a huge improvement already. I may try to do intermittent fasting starting tomorrow but I need to do more research.
20g of carbs should really be the max when you're getting started. If you want to keep track, you can get keto strips at a local pharmacy. It will test for excess ketones and is a good indicator if you're on the right track. About $10 for 50 strips.
 
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20g of carbs should really be the max when you're getting started. If you want to keep track, you can get keto strips at a local pharmacy. It will test for excess ketones and is a good indicator if you're on the right track. About $10 for 50 strips.
Ok, thanks, that's helpful info. I'm not going to lie that's kinda discouraging after I've already cut out a lot and felt like I was doing better. ^_^ Better truth than a lie though.

Edit: I just got weighed and I've lost about 4 pounds. Not a huge weight loss but with my health issues it is a big deal since it's usually very difficult for me to lose any weight at all. True it's just water weight but still. PTL for small victories!
 
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I'm thinking of attempting to cut junk food and pop out of my diet again. I'm really porking up.

Would you guys recommend that I cut the caffeine first and then the sugar or do it at the same time?
I'd say cut the sugar first but if you can do both then do it.
 
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Given my history of meltdowns, I'm thinking it's better to do caffeine and then sugar to minimize the fallout. Instead of Coca-Cola which has tons of sugar and caffeine, I could switch to A&W root beer which has no caffeine. After three or four days of no caffeine withdrawals, I then quit the pop and thus the sugar next.
Do what works for you.:idea1:
 
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Given my history of meltdowns, I'm thinking it's better to do caffeine and then sugar to minimize the fallout. Instead of Coca-Cola which has tons of sugar and caffeine, I could switch to A&W root beer which has no caffeine. After three or four days of no caffeine withdrawals, I then quit the pop and thus the sugar next.
I agree that cutting sugar is first. It's the biggest contributor to fat gain. Drink all the Coke zeros you want until you get to the point where you feel better and ready to cut it. Caffeine isn't as big of a deal. Then try cutting chips. Pork rinds are perfect as they have no carbs or sugar. Carbs work the same as sugar on the system as they convert to fat when not burned.
 
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I'm thinking of attempting to cut junk food and pop out of my diet again. I'm really porking up.

Would you guys recommend that I cut the caffeine first and then the sugar or do it at the same time?

I'd say if you eat under a certain calorie limit you should be fine. Remember reading a study from a scientist who decided to eat nothing but sweet, yet lost weight because he was still under a calorie limit.

Nothing wrong with having a can of coke a day and some junk food. Just keep it small.
 
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Ok, thanks, that's helpful info. I'm not going to lie that's kinda discouraging after I've already cut out a lot and felt like I was doing better. ^_^ Better truth than a lie though.

Edit: I just got weighed and I've lost about 4 pounds. Not a huge weight loss but with my health issues it is a big deal since it's usually very difficult for me to lose any weight at all. True it's just water weight but still. PTL for small victories!
Great job on the four pounds! It's a victory. Really, the idea is to get to eating as naturally as possible. You get your meat (pork, chicken, beef, it's all good). Getting your 20g of carbs with veggies is good.

Stick to greens mostly. A lot of veggies, like potato, carrots, starchy veggies, beans, legumes, aren't good. You can up your carbs to around 50g once you become fat adapted and your system.

Also remember, intermittent fasting isn't to cut your calories. Eat the same amount of food as you do now, but fit into two meals. As you go along, your appetite will continue to fall and it will be much easier.

So, the trick is to go strict at first and as you go along, you can add a little more carbs and your appetite will be less.
 
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I wish you all good luck with your dieting! :)

I've never tried dieting. Basically when I lost the extra weight I used to have, all I did was cut way back on unhealthy food, eat more healthy food, and start exercising more. But all it takes for me to gain or lose any weight is to increase or decrease my calorie intake.
Ahh I remember those days. When I was young. Sigh. :p
 
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It seems you are headed on the right trajectory having lost 4 pounds. If you however think you have stalled or aren't losing as fast as you should be then check out this induction acceptable food list and make sure you aren't eating anything not on here. The only reason I can think of as to why you wouldn't be getting the results you expect to is if theres some hidden carbs you might be missing. Also it's possible for some things to cause an insulin response even if it says <0 carb so its best to be as strict as you can to this list of foods at first till you see you are losing the weight you want. Also I have attached an image of foods you can eat at the beginning as sort of a guide you can look at if you want a quick view. Basically the way you want to go about this is when you start to make sure everything you put in your body isn't going to cause weight gain and then when you see some results later on add a few higher carb foods in and see if your body can handle them. If you start gaining weight then drop that food and try something else. keto.jpg

Induction Acceptable Food List

All fish, fowl, shellfish, meat, and eggs

Note: Oysters and mussels are higher in carbs than other shellfish, so limit them to four ounces per day.

Note: Processed meats, such as ham, bacon, pepperoni, salami, hot dogs and other luncheon meats—and some fish—may be cured with added sugar and will contribute carbs. Try to avoid meat and fish products cured with nitrates, which are known carcinogens. Also beware of products that are not exclusively meat, fish or fowl, such as imitation fish, meatloaf and breaded foods. Finally, do not consume more than four ounces of organ meats a day.

Cheese
You can consume three to four ounces daily of the following full-fat, firm, cow, sheep and goat cheese, soft and semisoft aged cheeses*, including:

Cheddar; cream cheese; Gouda; mozzarella; Roquefort, and other blue; Swiss cheese; Brie; Parmesan; Havarti; etc

*All cheeses have some carbohydrate content. The quantity you eat should be governed by that knowledge. The rule of thumb is to count 1 ounce of cheese as equivalent to 1 gram of carbohydrate. Note that cottage cheese, farmer’s cheese and other fresh cheeses are not permitted during Induction. No "diet" cheese, cheese spreads or whey cheeses are permitted. Individuals with known yeast symptoms, dairy allergy or cheese intolerance must avoid cheese. Imitation cheese products are not allowed, except for soy or rice cheese—but check the carbohydrate content.

Salad Vegetables
These salad vegetables are high in phytonutrients and provide a good source of fiber.

You can have two to three, cups per day of any combination of the following:

Alfalfa sprouts, daikon radish, mushrooms, arugula, endive, parsley, bok choy, escarole, peppers, celery, fennel, radicchio, chicory, jicama, radishes, chives, lettuce, romaine lettuce, cucumber, mâche, sorrel, spinach

Other Vegetables
You can have one cup per day of these vegetables, in any combination if your salad portion does not exceed two cups. The following vegetables are slightly higher in carbohydrate content than the salad vegetables:

Artichoke, celery root, pumpkin, artichoke hearts, rhubarb, asparagus, chard, sauerkraut, bamboo shoots, bean sprouts, beet greens, broccoli, broccoli rabe, Brussels sprouts, cabbage (red, green, Savoy), cauliflower, chayote, collard greens, dandelion greens, eggplant, hearts of palm, kale, kohlrabi, leeks, okra, onion, scallions, snow peas, spaghetti squash, spinach, string or wax beans, summer squash, tomato, turnips, water chestnuts, zucchini

If a vegetable, such as spinach or tomato, cooks down significantly, it must be measured raw so as not to underestimate its carb count.

Special Category Foods
To add variety, each day you can also eat 10 to 20 olives, half a small avocado, 2 Tbsp. of sour cream, or unsweetened heavy or light cream (limit to two to three tablespoons a day; note carbohydrate content), as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.

Herbs and Spices
Use all herbs and spices to taste, but make sure that spice blends contain no added sugar.

For salad dressing, use oil and vinegar (but not balsamic vinegar, which contains sugar) or lemon juice and herbs and spices. Prepared salad dressings without added sugar and no more than two carbs per serving are also fine.

Acceptable Fats and Oils
Many fats, especially certain oils, are essential to good nutrition. Olive oil is particularly valuable. All other vegetable oils are allowed, the best being canola, walnut, soybean, grapeseed, sesame, sunflower and safflower oils, especially if they are labeled "cold-pressed" or "expeller-pressed." Do not cook polyunsaturated oils, such as corn, soybean and sunflower oil, at high temperatures or allow to brown or smoke.

Use butter. Margarine should be avoided, not because of its carbohydrate content, but because it is usually made of trans fats (hydrogenated oils), which are a serious health hazard. (Some nonhydrogenated margarines are available in health-food stores.)

You don't have to remove the skin and fat from meat or fowl. Salmon and other cold-water fish are an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids.

Remember that trying to do a low-fat version of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss.

Artificial Sweeteners
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed as Splenda™), saccharin, cyclamate and acesulfame-K. Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "-ose," such as maltose, fructose, etc., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohols, such as maltitol, do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.

Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science’s statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer." It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet'n Low™.

The Atkins preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda™), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, noncaloric and does not raise blood sugar. It has been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after reviewing more than 100 studies conducted over the past 20 years. Note that each packet of sugar substitute contains about 1 gram of carbohydrate, so don’t forget to include the amount in your daily totals.

Acceptable Beverages
Be sure to drink a minimum of eight eight-ounce glasses of water each day, including: filtered water, mineral water, spring water, and tap water

Additionally, you can have the following:

Clear broth/bouillon (not all brands; read the label)
Club soda
Decaffeinated coffee or tea*
Diet soda made with sucralose (Splenda™); be sure to count the carbs
Essence-flavored seltzer (must say "no calories")
Herb tea (without barley or any fruit sugar added)
Lemon juice or lime juice (note that each contains 1.4 grams carbohydrate per Tablespoon); limit to two to three tablespoons

*Excessive caffeine may cause unstable blood sugar and should be avoided by those who suspect they are caffeine dependent. Everyone should try to avoid caffeine. Grain beverages (coffee substitutes) are not allowed. Alcoholic beverages are also not permitted during Induction; those low in carbohydrates are an option, in moderation, in later phases.

Convenience Foods
Although it is important that you eat primarily unprocessed foods, some controlled carb food products can come in handy when you are unable to find appropriate food, can’t take time for a meal or need a quick snack. More and more companies are creating healthy food products that can be eaten during the Induction phase of Atkins. Just remember two things:

Not all convenience food products are the same, so check labels and carbohydrate content.
 
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I'm gonna try the sugar first. Got myself a batch of goodies like @Saucy said and I'm going to limit my amount per day like @MehGuy said. On top of all of that I'm planning on walking for 2 hours a day.

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Good.. thing about diets.. you want to make them as comfortable as you can.. otherwise there is a good likely hood you'll give up.

I've been on some short diets before and I still ate junk food and lost weight.

Exercise is good too, especially weight lifting.. when your body burns calories you want to make sure it burns as less muscle as possible.
 
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Thanks for all the help! I really appreciate it!
Also, avoid 'fat free' stuff. It might seem good because we've been taught fat is bad, but it's really good on this diet. You can have tons of real butter and fatty dressings, avocado, greens, etc.
 
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I got two 10 lbs barbells I could probably use every day. I want to lose weight before I try any pushups though.

Depends how much you weight.. guess doing pushups might be a little risky if you weight a lot. Don't want to hurt your back or anything.. but yeah I would do weight lifting as soon as possible. You'll get more muscle when you lose weight plus the more muscles you gain the more they'll expend calories themselves. Plus men want to be more than just skinny, but also carve up a good physique.
 
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