I read an article on this, just now... using the dish in Australia, ... It must be real then. There is no way that they lied about this too.
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You really need to dig in a bit more if you think that the FE believers just watch YouTube.
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That's fine... except... you cannot know for sure that the radio signal was coming from the moon.
Sure.... you can pick up radio signals... but... where did they originate?
Pretty easy to just send them to a satellite... then to you.
There is too much raw video from NASA that shows it is staged. It would be no problem to stage the radio signals as well.
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I didn't realize that there are so many flat earthers on this site. In my opinion there are only 2 types of people that believe the earth is flat: stupid people and trolls. I really hope the majority are just trolling.
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It's a parabolic dish. The signal comes from where it's pointed at.
Absolute nonsense. What video?
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"Flat earthism" is interesting from a science fiction perspective. Sure, our planet is a globe, but could you design a flat one?
Unfortunately, the standard flat earth model is so incredibly silly that it can't even explain sunrise and sunset. Or the length of days in Australia. Or dozens of other things.
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Still, they somehow manage to explain their wacky view by invoking their own made up "science" or just declare that everything is a giant conspiracy. It's really funny to be honest.
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Well, your opinion is flawed. However, you are entitled to it.
Every single FE believer starts off just like you... They laugh their head off and blow milk out their nose..
Some people stop there and turn to the sports page. Others say "wow, I just gotta see what these people are talking about."
That's when the light comes on....
Yes, there are followers and people who just go with the flow because it's different.
However, the majority of the FE believers are intelligent and logical.
I am still not a FE believer... not yet...
But, here are two things that are stuck in my head and I cannot get around them. After that, there is a whole bunch of other things that cascade after that. However, there are a couple of things that I have yet to deal with in regards to the FE model.
The two things that I cannot get over are:
1/ Some things, objects, landmarks, structures can be seen far beyond what would be possible if the earth was curved. We know that the earth curves 8 inches every mile. That is a lot, when you think about it. Since it is a curve... calculations of how much it drops away over distances are as follows.
the distance, in miles, squared, times 8 inches. So, in 50 miles, not such a long distance to be able to see over large bodies of water, the earth would drop away a total of 1666.6 feet.
This drop is sufficient to conceal buildings and other things within a distance still observable with telescopes and cameras.
Fact is, things are seen that should not be able to be seen... over and over.... all over the world and on any clear day.....
That is just not something to take lightly.
2/ If you stood on a giant ball. Maybe 400 feet in diameter. You stand on the top and can look all around and see an edge. The "horizon" or edge of the visible ball to you.
Now, if you were to be lifted up off of this same ball, by a crane, you would be higher and see further out to more of the surface of the ball. This newly visible surface would be lower as the ball curves down and away from you.
The higher you go, the further you would see, the lower the horizon of the ball you stood on would appear.
Yet... on the earth, the higher you go... there is no change. the horizon that you can see expands further and further as you can see farther and farther.. yet it never drops away.
In fact it is always at your eye level..... always.
As we know, the earth curves 8 inches in every mile squared... so you should be able to detect a curve at a much lower altitude than planes fly at....
This is, also, something to that should not be taken lightly.
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Again, posting things such as this, especially on a thread of more than 350 posts, just shows how little you have investigated this topic.
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Yes, due to refraction. But "flat earthers" can't explain the opposite thing -- failing to see the bottoms of ships and towers due to curvature of the earth.
Your calculations are wrong. You need to draw some diagrams.
Exactly. Which is why sailing ships had lookouts on the top of the mast, and why line-of-sight radio antennas are on top of towers.
False.
The horizon is always below eye level. But when you are looking at it, you are looking at it.
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Funny thing is, if you sent a FE up into orbit, and they took photos, they would then by default become part of the conspiracy 
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Funny thing is, if you sent a FE up into orbit, and they took photos, they would then by default become part of the conspiracy
Exactly. It's very contagious. Everyone in Australia is part of the conspiracy too.
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Thank you.
I don't feel insecure in not knowing as much as in not being told the truth.
I can envision reality as a system that will appear as coherent as the consciousness that beholds it.
If you have a brain the size of a filbert, so will be your concept of the cosmos.
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Nice attempt however, refraction does not explain it. It is a quick and shallow excuse for it and many will just believe it, shrug their shoulders and walk away.
As for the horizon... it should be lower and lower and farther and farther.
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Do you also doubt gravity? Because our current theory of gravity would not work with a flat earth.
Also I've yet to see flat earthers explain our current flight paths. Most flights are literally impossible on the flat earth model, requiring the plane to travel at twice the speed of sound.
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What do you mean "do I doubt gravity"?
In the globe model, we need it to hold everything on the spinning ball. So it must be some measurable force even though its source is an enigma.
On the FE model... there is no need for a "force". Down is down and Up is Up... There is no need for some mysterious force to hold us to a ball or have planets drawn to each other over millions of miles of space.
Unless you want to pull a Neil DeGrass Tyson and drop a microphone on a stage and smugly suggest that he proved something. Next, he should stick his hand in a fire and show..... heat energy. What a joke this actor is.
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There are lots of examples out there...just look.... flight paths that make absolutely no logical sense on a globe.
However, these two things you talk about, gravity and flight paths, are not my biggest, observable and testable item..
Mine are the FACT that we can see things with the naked eye and even more with telescopes, binoculars and zoom lenses on cameras..... they should be well beyond our vision, hidden by the curve.
And the FACT that as you gain altitude.... the horizon does not behave like it should if, in fact, you were on a giant ball. It should move down and away as you see farther out to the lower part of the ball.
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