Did humans descend from Apes?

[juvenissun]

LOL! That's something we decide to do, not a feature of our biology.

WHY do we decided to?

 

[juvenissun]

I salute the wrongness of your answer. It was more beautiful than I'd ever hoped it could be.

They do not wear clothes.

 

[juvenissun]

Go ahead.... make a definition based on anatomy that includes all primates but excludes humans, without getting trivial or arbitrary. Go ahead. Try.

This should be fun...

That is the problem. Human should not be defined by its anatomy.

 

[Larniavc]

actually the scientific consensus were wrong many time in the past. how do you know evolution is different?

If the evidence shows that ToE is incorrect biologist around the world will be ecstatic because we will have all learned something new.

That’s what make people what to be scientists: to find something new, to overturn the consensus, to shift that paradigm, to be the new Einstein.

 

[Larniavc]

why not? do you agree for instance that the similarity among cars point to a common designer (human)?

Yay!

Magical animal-cars.

Please come to my thread: I thought you would be well up for it.

 

[Larniavc]

I should have said you’re a mammal because you have breasts and a large brain . Yes that large brain is a primitive trait that we inherited

Not all mammals have proportionally big brains. Hedgehogs, for instance.

 

[DogmaHunter]

That is the problem. Human should not be defined by its anatomy.

To devastating to your case, ha?

ps: you just admitted by implication that biologically seeing, humans indeed are apes.

 

[Roseonathorn]

Oh but all Swedes or Swedishspeakers that still have that tradition, pretend we are "frogs" at midsummer We sing we are small frogs and jump around the midsummer pole like frogs but we keep our clothes on. Maybe You should get an ape tradition and pretend being Tarzan or some Bigfoot.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Oh but all Swedes or Swedishspeakers that still have that tradition, pretend we are "frogs" at midsummer We sing we are small frogs and jump around the midsummer pole like frogs but we keep our clothes on. Maybe You should get an ape tradition and pretend being Tarzan or some Bigfoot.

That humans are apes, is a matter of biological fact. Not a matter of folklore, culture or poetry.

 

[xianghua]

Yes, we have all of the fossils and it was a slow gradual change.

like this instance?:

(image from wikimedia)

 

[xianghua]

Humans wear clothes.

humans use a language and walk on 2 (some apes can walk on 2 but its not their regular walking and they do it for several seconds).

 

[VirOptimus]

humans use a language and walk on 2 (some apes can walk on 2 but its not their regular walking and they do it for several seconds).

As human are apes, som apes do indeed use language and walk on two legs.

 

[xianghua]

As human are apes, som apes do indeed use language and walk on two legs.

are you kidding?

 

[Roseonathorn]

like this instance?:

View attachment 222297(image from wikimedia)

But from the cat to the tiger they all react like cat animals but from apes to humans they differ. I still have not seen an ape write an intelligent letter with many insightful wisdoms to His sweetheart or praying to God and actually talking. People in 1600 look like now too, besides my husband was related to one of Linnaeus teachers and I bet He did not look like an ape either.

 

[Roseonathorn]

As human are apes, som apes do indeed use language and walk on two legs.

Do You mean primitive animal language? Horses, dogs and cats use that too. Is that what You mean or do You mean they form the same word for the same object or person in their animal tribe like mama dada. Horses recognize their names and certain sentences but a crow can only count to three not to four, I had one as a pet. Rawens are a bit smarter. The eagle obeyed me when I told it never to come back but not the hawk. The hawk has a mind of its own. The elk understand certain things if You are close and looks it into the eyes when You talk to it but sometimes they can get afraid before You get that close just like a deer. We have no apes here so I haven't talked to them. Have anyone talked to apes? In what way do they resemble humans more than say a horse or a dog?

 

[DogmaHunter]

humans use a language and walk on 2 (some apes can walk on 2 but its not their regular walking and they do it for several seconds).

And elephants are big while cheetah's can run really fast.

 

[Jimmy D]

But from the cat to the tiger they all react like cat animals but from apes to humans they differ. I still have not seen an ape write an intelligent letter with many insightful wisdoms to His sweetheart or praying to God and actually talking. People in 1600 look like now too, besides my husband was related to one of Linnaeus teachers and I bet He did not look like an ape either.

Doesn't the Lion differ from the other big cats by being a social animal? Co-ordinated hunting strategies, social hierarchies etc?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Do You mean primitive animal language? Horses, dogs and cats use that too. Is that what You mean or do You mean they form the same word for the same object or person in their animal tribe like mama dada. Horses recognize their names and certain sentences but a crow can only count to three not to four, I had one as a pet. Rawens are a bit smarter. The eagle obeyed me when I told it never to come back but not the hawk. The hawk has a mind of its own. The elk understand certain things if You are close and looks it into the eyes when You talk to it but sometimes they can get afraid before You get that close just like a deer. We have no apes here so I haven't talked to them. Have anyone talked to apes? In what way do they resemble humans more than say a horse or a dog?

If you are simply going to point at human-only-traits and hold that up as "evidence" that humans aren't primates, mammals, what-have-you.... then you are in for a small surprise:
every single species has traits that are unique to them. That's kind of what makes them a distinct species.

In felines, cheetah's are the fastest.
In primates, humans are the smartest.

What of it?

 

[xianghua]

But from the cat to the tiger they all react like cat animals but from apes to humans they differ. I still have not seen an ape write an intelligent letter with many insightful wisdoms to His sweetheart or praying to God and actually talking. People in 1600 look like now too, besides my husband was related to one of Linnaeus teachers and I bet He did not look like an ape either.

sure. i just wnat to show something to brightmoon and why its not evidence for evolution. we can even do the same with cars. but it doesnt prove any evolution.

 

[DogmaHunter]

we can even do the same with cars.

You can not and it has been shown clearly in this thread that you can not.

But we all know by now that you don't really care about demonstrations and evidence.
You just like your beliefs and repeat the same already disposed nonsense over and over again.