Did humans descend from Apes?

[Roseonathorn]

Here is another picture of what is called yeti in Sibiria I have no idea who produced the pictures and how real or unreal they are. All I know is some people can get a dicease when they start to grow hair in the face at least and that is no fun. But in all times people have dressed out as monsters by some reason or another and well we know gorillas exist. If people can breed with apes? I have heard that is how hiv came into this world in Africa. Not 100% if it is true though. At least I do not think it is Gods plan for humans to breed with monkeys and I do not believe He created us that way.

 

[Roseonathorn]

Bigfootpainting

 

[Roseonathorn]

Yetipicture

 

[Roseonathorn]

It is funny though with science and evolutionists. If a sick person goes to a doctor and gets a diagnosis Canser, go home and die in two weeks and then the patient comes back after three weeks and is in full health and all cancer healed by God, those occations it might acctually happen. Then they ask the Doctor if He can write in the journal Healed by God and often the doctor can although He might even be an atheist. But how can an evolutionist be so unbelieving in any miracles? If an explosion happens, it does not produce life but rater death. Not order but chaos. It needs a masters mind behind it all. And life does not spring up out of nothing in space. It is created.

 

[Roseonathorn]

But, quite common in these parts.

Is the life as an Atheist any exciting at all? I think it indeed sounds as a boring thinking if the physical should put a stop to Your plans and aspirations. Prayer gets You beyond physical sometimes. Maybe atheists would only call that good fortune or timing. But I think God speaks to people and all have certain gifts that we can work on. Yes people have the right to belive what they want, but sometimes they are so blindfolded that they have not seen nor tasted the good food yet because someone fed them something they did not like and told them that is Gods way, get used to it. They never took the time to figure out Gods plan with their life by themself, in peace and quiet in prayer with God himself, and the bible, instead they listened to one rich preacher after the other known rich famous preacher that asked for money and got fed up. Why not read one chapter of the bible a day and start to talk to God or say the Holy Spirit about Your everyday joys or business and problems or other peoples joys or problems etc. It is be better to be two than one...

 

[DogmaHunter]

First off, human ARE apes, just like humans are mammals, vertebrates,...

The flawed ToE teaches that humans descended from the common ancestor of Apes. This theory is provably false

The exact opposite is true: it is demonstrably correct that we share ancestry with the other animals.

since it cannot explain the process by which we obtained our superior intelligence

Yes we can. It's called evolution.

The ToE falsely assumes that we magically changed from prehistoric animal like creature

No, magic is what YOU believe in.
ToE is completely based on naturally occuring processes.

Truth is that we changed from prehistoric to human in ONE generation when Noah's grandsons married and passed Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's Gen 3:22 to the sons of God (prehistoric people) Gen 6:4 who were already here when the Ark arrived, 11k years ago. Today's humans (descendants of Adam) are the result since we have the DNA of prehistoric beings AND the superior intelligence which ONLY Adam and God have. We did NOT descend from Apes. That's God's Truth Scripturally. Amen?

Your religion, is not science. It's just your religion and what you happen to believe.

 

[DogmaHunter]

but why you consider human as ape? this is because their shared similarity. right?

No, not mere "similarity".

For the same reason that humans are also mammals, vertebrates, animals, eukaryotes,...

 

[DogmaHunter]

Who made the definition? Evolutionists.

Actually... if memory serves me right, then humans were known to be primates before evolution was discovered, and were classified as such by a christian.

I make a category of God. So God exist. Is that what your "definition" look like.

No. You actually need an observable example against wich you can test the definition.
We have primates to study. Can you point us to a god to study?

Very very poor logic.

Indeed. Very poor, indeed.

 

[DogmaHunter]

i already did it and get a different conclusion.

mmmyeah..... I'm gonna call your bluff here....

 

[DogmaHunter]

actually there is. let me ask you this: if god created human. you will still conclude human is an ape?

If the universe and everything it contains, including our memories of having lived our entire lives, was created just 5 seconds ago, then it wouldn't change the fact that humans are primates, mammals, vertebrates, eukaryotes,....

 

[DogmaHunter]

why not? do you agree for instance that the similarity among cars point to a common designer (human)?

Cars don't have genes.

 

[DogmaHunter]

ok. but how do you know that evolution is true and id isnt?

Evidence.

There's mountains for one and none for the other.

 

[DogmaHunter]

lets see. lets say that you will see an organic walking robot that has a DNA. you will conclude design in this case?

It wouldn't be a robot.




So, you're just going to continue to parade around with these falsehoods that have been correct so many times already?

 

[Jimmy D]

Here is another picture of what is called yeti in Sibiria I have no idea who produced the pictures and how real or unreal they are. All I know is some people can get a dicease when they start to grow hair in the face at least and that is no fun. But in all times people have dressed out as monsters by some reason or another and well we know gorillas exist. If people can breed with apes? I have heard that is how hiv came into this world in Africa. Not 100% if it is true though. At least I do not think it is Gods plan for humans to breed with monkeys and I do not believe He created us that way.

I'm confused as to why you keep mentioning Yetis, Bigfoots, etc.

 

[DogmaHunter]

You define (classify) that human is an ape. Then human, no matter what, is an ape. Then you can not use it in the reasoning which argued that human is not evolved from ape. To you, it is a definition, but people do not accept that definition.

Not knowing this basic logic is shameful.

If you think you can do better..........

You are always welcome to come up with a definition of "primate" that includes all primates but excludes humans, without explicitly and arbitrarily saying "...but not humans" or the equivalent thereof.

Go ahead.... make a definition based on anatomy that includes all primates but excludes humans, without getting trivial or arbitrary. Go ahead. Try.

This should be fun...

 

[DogmaHunter]

My biology teacher had to teach us those things too but honestly He did not believe humans came from apes, no more than I did before I took the classes. According to Darvins theories .... one can write that is also true. It is after all a theory.

Here are some other "theories":
- atoms
- gravity
- germs
- plate tectonics
- heliocentrism
- relativity
- ...

Here is some mandatory reading, so that you may never make this mistake again:

Evolution is Not Just a Theory: home

Seriously, it's a massive whopper of a mistake. One that you best not repeat again, because it kind of instantly shatters any shred of credibility you might have had concerning scientific topics.

Try giving a phone to an ape and no way will it write as good as a human because they don't speak human languages.

And there are plenty of things that Chimps can do that humans can't.

Obviously there are differences. If there wouldn't be, then we would be the same species.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Genetic and mutations disproves evolution simple as that . Darvin did not have knowledge of DNA if he did he would never make such assumptions , according to large studies of mutations all organisms either are trying to fix mutations (trying to recover good genes , which proves that they had to be better before they occured ) or are mutating into thymine over time , if Earth was as old as they tell us every DNA would be containing only thymine and life would not be possible .

Actually, Darwin predicted the mechanisms of DNA.
Indeed, he had no knowledge of it...

But his theory required the existance of something that:
- determined the phenotype of a creature
- that was past down to off spring
- which had to be subject to gradual change over generations in inheritable manner


He didn't know how it worked. But his theory required the existance of such a mechanism.

DNA provides exactly that mechanism.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

Is the life as an Atheist any exciting at all? I think it indeed sounds as a boring thinking if the physical should put a stop to Your plans and aspirations. Prayer gets You beyond physical sometimes. Maybe atheists would only call that good fortune or timing. But I think God speaks to people and all have certain gifts that we can work on. Yes people have the right to belive what they want, but sometimes they are so blindfolded that they have not seen nor tasted the good food yet because someone fed them something they did not like and told them that is Gods way, get used to it. They never took the time to figure out Gods plan with their life by themself, in peace and quiet in prayer with God himself, and the bible, instead they listened to one rich preacher after the other known rich famous preacher that asked for money and got fed up. Why not read one chapter of the bible a day and start to talk to God or say the Holy Spirit about Your everyday joys or business and problems or other peoples joys or problems etc. It is be better to be two than one...

Hmmm.... I wish you could know what I've been doing in the last week, so that you could see how silly your question in the first sentence is.

 

[Roseonathorn]

I'm confused as to why you keep mentioning Yetis, Bigfoots, etc.

I googled unhuman apes and Bigfoot and yetis and men in monstersuits is what came up. I would say if I sow a flower of a kind I usually get that kind of flower, but over the time of many years they change in variety too. Still I am a person who does believe miracles happen sometimes, that are out of ordinary and I believe God created humans in His image in the beginning. I also believe that the Devil wants to destroy anything that the Lord makes and perhaps He has gotten some people to listen to His schemes to breed into wrong varieties of all sorts. And God created people with an ability to make their own decisions but if they get full of evil they have difficult to think clear.

 

[Roseonathorn]

Why did the doctor get all pale and say humans can't hear that, only insects, when He did a hearing test on me for a driving licence, hid the beeping mechanism under the table and continued His test and then wrote hearing gravly intact meaning I hear too well. Too bad I can smell too well too. I never went to concerts or listened to loud music. Could I and my relatives have a hearing mutation?