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Did humans descend from Apes?

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That is the problem. Human should not be defined by its anatomy.
When the task is to categorize creatures according to their anatomy, that is exactly what one should do.
 
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there are many scientific evidence against common descent. according to evolution a molecule can evolve into a princess. we have no evidence for such claim.
Please forgive me for my harsh language, especially if it does not apply.

You are an idiot. Only a stupid person would make such a claim not once, not twice, but loads of times AND be explained why it is wrong. You seem to exhibit no gain of anything from being on a debate forum, you nullify the purpose of a debate. If that is not a sure sign of being an ignorant person, then I don't know what it. Everything seems to constantly go in one ear, and come out of the other ear.

Again, I apologize if it does not apply because of a medical/psychological condition.
 
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WHY do we decided to?
Since humans are biologically capable of mating at any time, and since we decide where, when and with whom to mate based on considerations other than biology, it has become an almost universal feature of human behavior to cover the genitals when not ready to have sex.
 
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That humans are apes, is a matter of biological fact. Not a matter of folklore, culture or poetry.
If You would truly want to know exactly that defines our religion. Facts and religion are never good friends. But there are false gods and one true God and mostly everyone believe their own God is the true one. How do You know evolution is not also another false teaching, just as another ones false god?
 
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If You would truly want to know exactly that defines our religion. Facts and religion are never good friends. But there are false gods and one true God and mostly everyone believe their own God is the true one. How do You know evolution is not also another false teaching, just as another ones false god?
Because there is no empirical evidence for any of the Gods, but plenty for evolution.
 
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Please forgive me for my harsh language, especially if it does not apply.

You are an idiot. Only a stupid person would make such a claim not once, not twice, but loads of times AND be explained why it is wrong. You seem to exhibit no gain of anything from being on a debate forum, you nullify the purpose of a debate. If that is not a sure sign of being an ignorant person, then I don't know what it. Everything seems to constantly go in one ear, and come out of the other ear.

Again, I apologize if it does not apply because of a medical/psychological condition.

I heard on the radio that we can order sperms by postorder, there are a few men to chose from if one believes the journalist so in fact can any queen do the same. Sperm is made of many molecules so if the queen order another ones sperm then it can turn into a princess. But no You can't scrape Your earwax and believe it turn into a princess.
 
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Facts and religion are never good friends.

I know. You sound as if you say this with great pride. Which is strange.

But there are false gods and one true God and mostly everyone believe their own God is the true one.

Uhu.

How do You know evolution is not also another false teaching, just as another ones false god?
Because unlike religion, science deals in evidence - not "faith".
 
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I heard on the radio that we can order sperms by postorder, there are a few men to chose from if one believes the journalist so in fact can any queen do the same. Sperm is made of many molecules so if the queen order another ones sperm then it can turn into a princess. But no You can't scrape Your earwax and believe it turn into a princess.
Uhhhh okay I guess? I completely missed the point.
PS: @xianghua said molecule (singular)
 
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Because there is no empirical evidence for any of the Gods, but plenty for evolution.
It is a personal and sometimes very emotional and quite real experience of a very alive God that we christians can have. But not even if Someone would say they have seen God in heaven the people on earth would believe. Some simply shut their hearts because it truly can be more comfortable that way.
 
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I know. You sound as if you say this with great pride. Which is strange.



Uhu.


Because unlike religion, science deals in evidence - not "faith".

I stated it as a fact, Jesus also had trouble with religious leaders, farisees. I think christians today sometimes get stuck in our religion so we get hard to see what God is doing just as the farisees. We should beware of that.
 
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What do You say when You have to face the fact that someones diagnosed cancer is gone overnight? It happened to my grandpa. He had faith. It was a fact he had cancer, people prayed and He got healed. Evolution does not perform tricks like that but God heals.
 
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We evolved from an earlier primate. Which by definition happened in the past.

False, since Adam was made BEFORE plants, herbs and any other living creature. Adam was made the 3rd Day/Age. Gen 2:4-7 ALL other living creatures were created on the 5th Day/Age from WATER. Gen 1:21 Can you explain HOW Humans (descendants of Adam) evolved from ANY other creature? Of course NOT. It's a lie.
 
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What do You say when You have to face the fact that someones diagnosed cancer is gone overnight? It happened to my grandpa. He had faith. It was a fact he had cancer, people prayed and He got healed. Evolution does not perform tricks like that but God heals.
Your point being...?

Keep in mind that this discussion is not about the existence of God or the possibility of miracles or anything of that kind. In general, the discussions on this board are not about theism v. atheism. They're about a cranky Protestant minority v. everybody else, theists and atheists together.
 
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I’ve never heard that particular folktale before but ok. It’s still doesn’t change the verifiable facts of Hominidae evolution

Amen. We changed from prehistoric to Human (descendants of Adam) when the Ark arrived bringing the superior intelligence of God to this planet of Apes. That's God's Truth according to Genesis. Amen?
 
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If You would truly want to know exactly that defines our religion. Facts and religion are never good friends. But there are false gods and one true God and mostly everyone believe their own God is the true one. How do You know evolution is not also another false teaching, just as another ones false god?

Was just about to post something similar to Speedwell.

Why are you trying to turn it into a religion vs atheism debate? All the Christians I know fully accept the Theory of Evolution.
 
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It’s that simple , Homo sapiens is a great ape and they evolved from other now extinct great apes like the Australopithecus or Ardipithecus species. Chimps and bonobos evolved from other extinct great apes and gorillas or orangutans from still other lineages of extinct great apes. There was a great ape lineage which is the ancestor of all of these.

False, since Apes have been around only Millions of years and Humans (descendants of Adam) were around BEFORE the beginning of our Universe, 13.8 Billion years ago, according to Genesis. Do you know more than Genesis?
 
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I have learned I don't know everything. There are lots in this world still to discover and everyone does not have to believe as I do, I can still learn from people with other worldviews than my own. Of course we have to live with the fact that we think differently but we need not start a war because of it or call each other idiots. Instead we can have some patience and try to figure out why the other think the way He or She does. We are probably from all over the globe and if this was on my yard atleast a few of us had by now got a few seconds chilled face down in the snow between the spruce because I am made of vikingblood. No menace intended but we are rather handy with snowballs. Snow is fun. I might have made a snowape too :)
 
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juvenissum . Whut? Huh? That makes no sense. Humans are apes so they can’t be descended from other apes . Is that what you’re saying ?

Humans were made the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-7
Apes were made the 5th Day from WATER (L.U.C.A.) Gen 1:21

Teaching that Humans descended from the common ancestor of Apes, is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Humans are God's children, destined to have rule over Apes and every other living creature. Gen 1:28 Evolution teaches that we are no more than evolved Apes. In the end, everyone will see that Evolism is provably False.
 
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