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Eternal life starts the moment you're conceived.
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In my opinion...for I'm no scholar...So our Lord Jesus has promised to all believers the gift of eternal life but when does that eternal life start? The moment we are born again? After we die and are given our perfect bodies on the last day? Jesus promised believers will live even though they die so does that mean that when our bodies die we still live in spirit? So that would mean that our eternal life starts from when we first come to Jesus. Maybe even from the moment we were born because Christians were chosen by God before he formed the world. But there are verses in the bible that seem to support all views. Like for example on the last day we are given eternal life to reign with Jesus during his 1,000 year reign. I just don't know. Thoughts?
I don't understand.... what about sinners who never accept Christ? Do they lose this eternal life?Eternal life starts the moment you're conceived.
That depends on one's beliefs. Some say that the "non-saved" have eternal damnation and torment, some say we just die, some say we remain asleep until the judgement at which point we would suffer eternal death from fire in annihilation.I don't understand.... what about sinners who never accept Christ? Do they lose this eternal life?
No, they finish their eternal life in hell.I don't understand.... what about sinners who never accept Christ? Do they lose this eternal life?
Are we not born sinners?
I understand the different beliefs... but, don't Christians believe that all are lost, all have come short?That depends on one's beliefs. Some say that the "non-saved" have eternal damnation and torment, some say we just die, some say we remain asleep until the judgement at which point we would suffer eternal death from fire in annihilation.
Ah, OK, I see what you are saying... All souls are eternal... some have eternal life... others eternal death.No, they finish their eternal life in hell.
Yes, we all fall short and sin.I understand the different beliefs... but, don't Christians believe that all are lost, all have come short?
Yes, I agree.Thus, all are in need of a savior. If so... we are born sinners and lost.... only an acceptance of Christ brings salvation..
I think we all are, hopefullyI am interested in truth.
When we turn to Christ it is our spirit which was dead, has now been made alive. This is the eternal life that we receive. Our physical bodies have the sentence of them in them. This is what Paul meant when he said, "We have the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead." When our life ends, our spirit goes straight into the presence of God. Paul said, "Absent from the body, present with the Lord." At the second coming, when our bodies are resurrected, they are raised not as the corruptible bodies that went into the grave, but as glorified bodies, the same as Jesus' new body with which He walked out of the tomb. Jesus is the first born of many brethren, and just as He was raised from the dead in a glorified body, so shall we.So our soul is eternal with or without God and our bodies are not eternal. They only become eternal after the second coming when Jesus makes our bodies perfect. That makes sense thank you for explaining it.
So our Lord Jesus has promised to all believers the gift of eternal life but when does that eternal life start? The moment we are born again? After we die and are given our perfect bodies on the last day? Jesus promised believers will live even though they die so does that mean that when our bodies die we still live in spirit? So that would mean that our eternal life starts from when we first come to Jesus. Maybe even from the moment we were born because Christians were chosen by God before he formed the world. But there are verses in the bible that seem to support all views. Like for example on the last day we are given eternal life to reign with Jesus during his 1,000 year reign. I just don't know. Thoughts?
I don't think it has anything to do with "imbibing" Jesus blood or "dining" on His flesh..-
Note the grammatical tense of the "have" verb in Jesus' statement below; it's present rather than future indicating that people who correctly imbibe Christ's blood, and correctly dine upon his flesh; have eternal life right now-- no delay, and no waiting period.
● John 6:53-54 . . I tell you the truth; unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life
In other words: if people are lacking eternal life it's because they have yet to correctly imbibe the Lord's blood and correctly dine upon his flesh.
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I think living life today should be sufficient. Today should be my primary concern. If I do well today, perhaps God will grant me a tomorrow.So our Lord Jesus has promised to all believers the gift of eternal life but when does that eternal life start? The moment we are born again? After we die and are given our perfect bodies on the last day? Jesus promised believers will live even though they die so does that mean that when our bodies die we still live in spirit? So that would mean that our eternal life starts from when we first come to Jesus. Maybe even from the moment we were born because Christians were chosen by God before he formed the world. But there are verses in the bible that seem to support all views. Like for example on the last day we are given eternal life to reign with Jesus during his 1,000 year reign. I just don't know. Thoughts?
Right. Most Christians believe that we go to be with Jesus when we die and that our bodily resurrection is a separate event. So that would mean that we are born with eternal life. Since God foreknew those who would come to believe and who wouldn't.
I don't think it has anything to do with "imbibing" Jesus blood or "dining" on His flesh..
You can be saved and not observe communion. Nowhere is that ever a prerequisite for salvation. Ever.
Yeah Eternal means lasting forever. So eternal life would be life without a beginning or end. Its life that lasts past physical death into an eternity. Its the way Adam and Eve and all the human race could have been. But the human race disobeyed God and they have to suffer physical death as punishment. But those chosen by God will have eternal life again.
So our Lord Jesus has promised to all believers the gift of eternal life but when does that eternal life start? The moment we are born again? After we die and are given our perfect bodies on the last day? Jesus promised believers will live even though they die so does that mean that when our bodies die we still live in spirit? So that would mean that our eternal life starts from when we first come to Jesus. Maybe even from the moment we were born because Christians were chosen by God before he formed the world. But there are verses in the bible that seem to support all views. Like for example on the last day we are given eternal life to reign with Jesus during his 1,000 year reign. I just don't know. Thoughts?