Weren't demons once angels?
Yeah, I was pretty much in the same boat until I read the Book of Enoch on the origin of evil spirits.This always confused me before I knew about The Book of Enoch, because The Bible (66 Book Protestant Version) never really explains their origin.
Demons/Evil Spirits are the Disembodied Spirits of the Offspring between Fallen Angels and Human Wives who were All Destroyed in Noah's Flood.
I can't remember the Bible saying that.Weren't demons once angels?
This is why you should not believe everything you read, unless it is scripture. I take it you believe there are fallen angels but they are different than demons. If you wish to entertain the fanciful, that fallen angels procreated with women to create the Nephilim, than understand that such a union would not make a new soul/spirit. It would be a soulless human. Once they would have died, there would be no "disembodied spirit"/haunting spirit that you think roams the earth looking for a new flesh to possess. Spirits, angels can not reproduce spiritually. God made man special in all creation, including being more special than angels. While animals can reproduce and form new flesh, we can reproduce and create new souls. This is our GREATEST ability. This is being made in the image of God. Angels, no can do.This always confused me before I knew about The Book of Enoch, because The Bible (66 Book Protestant Version) never really explains their origin.
Demons/Evil Spirits are the Disembodied Spirits of the Offspring between Fallen Angels and Human Wives who were All Destroyed in Noah's Flood.
Revelation 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.I can't remember the Bible saying that.
Are you saying that the dragon's angels were demons?Revelation 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Satan has one third of the angels that were created. God has two thirds. That means there are twice as many good angels as bad angels. Amazing how much havoc he still brings.
Weren't demons once angels?
Are you saying that the dragon's angels were demons?
I can believe the dragon is Satan, or representative thereof. This is the first I've heard of fallen angels or Satan being demons.fallen angels are demons. In Rev 12 the dragon (Lucifer/Satan) causes 1/3 of the stars (good angels) to fall and become demon like himself.
Satan has one third of the angels that were created. God has two thirds.
The book of Enoch is quoted in scripture, in Jude. The writer of Jude quotes a prophecy of Enoch, as prophecy, from the book of Enoch.This is why you should not believe everything you read, unless it is scripture.
The bible actually doesn't say that. It's from misunderstanding something in Rev 12 which doesn't say the stars are his angels. Clearly Satan's angels WITH SATAN in the end of Rev 12 so the stars Satan casts down in the first part of Rev 12 aren't his rebel angels.
So, did Satan cast his angels to the Earth from heaven in Rev 12:4 or did God do it in Rev 12:9?
If you read the NT most of the time the text uses the word demons, but sometimes it uses fallen angels. Understand that they were all created by God as angels so in one sense they are still angels. I like the use of demons because it reduces confusion with God's angels.I can believe the dragon is Satan, or representative thereof. This is the first I've heard of fallen angels or Satan being demons.
Satan draws 1/3 of the angels (stars) with him.
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven
Satan gets himself and the angels that he drew - cast out of heaven.
God casts them all out of heaven
If one is going to read every verse of Revelation as representing sequential in time, they will not get a true understanding of the text.So, did Satan cast his angels to the Earth from heaven in Rev 12:4 or did God do it in Rev 12:9?
In my Bible (Revised Standard Version), the word "demon" is only used twice in the Old Testament.If you read the NT most of the time the text uses the word demons, but sometimes it uses fallen angels. Understand that they were all created by God as angels so in one sense they are still angels. I like the use of demons because it reduces confusion with God's angels.
Even the the Pharisees knew that Satan was a prince. Understand that a prince has subjects. Satan is a spirit and has spirits working with him on his side.
Matthew 9:34 But the Pharisees said, “It is by the prince of demons that he drives out demons.”
Angels are ministering spirits that serve God and man.
Hebrews 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
Satan is an angel.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
Demons are impure spirits that serve Satan, his fallen angels.
1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Revelation 16:13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
Revelation 18:2 With a mighty voice he shouted: “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
Scripture usually uses angel to refer to God's angels, but sometimes fallen angel is stated as opposed to the elect angels. The fact that there are two classes of angels, God's and Satan's is clear.
2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
Now understand that there is a spiritual battle going on.
Ephesians 6:11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
This verse should make it very clear that angels and demons are the same type.
Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,
Who is the prince of this world?So these stars are enemies not loyal rebels of satan. The loyal ones remain in heaven with Satan to fight the war they lose and THEN they are cast out of heaven and to the Earth.
Not according to biblegateway.In my Bible (Revised Standard Version), the word "demon" is only used twice in the Old Testament.