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Part I
Ex 20:6 "love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "IF you Love Me KEEP My Commandments"
1 John 5:2-3 "This IS the Love of God - that we KEEP His Commandments"
So may argue that all that was before the cross - so pay no attention to that part of "scripture" -- it is not for Christians. Yet "Christian" means - follower of Christ and Christ is speaking both in John 14 - and in Exodus 20.
"what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
notice Jesus' own words in John's Gospel where Jesus affirms that HIS Commandments and the Father's are in fact one
John 5:19 "19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner."
John 8:28 "28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
John 12:49 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
John 14: "10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works."
Which is why in John 14:15 we see this
15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Instead of "keep My Commandments - not My Father's commandments - just mine"
And it is why John 15:10 does not say that either
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
And of course God the Father gave Jesus the ministry of "Savior" to the world such that Jesus prayed "Father if it be possible let this cup pass from me - nevertheless not my will - but Thy will be done"
John said - Jesus kept His Father's Commandments.
John said - we should do as Jesus did.
1 John 2: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
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Jesus gave us the TEN Commandments - they were spoken by HiM as we see in the NEW Covenant
Heb 8 (And Jer 31:31-33)
6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. 8 For finding fault with them, He says,
“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.
Exegesis demands that the moral law of God written on the mind and heart in Jer 31:31-33 is the one that Jeremiah and his readers knew.
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If you oppose the Commandments of God in NT times - then answer this question -
In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law?
- what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??
First commandment where??
========================= next
having provided the obvious answer to that question - the next point is addressed by Mark 7 telling us whether God's law can be edited/changed by church tradition.
Mark 7
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
so then is Christ approving of church tradition editing/tweaking the Law of God in that scripture ?? simple question -- easy answer.
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Ex 20:8-11 says the 7th day is a day of rest.
Ex 20:10 "the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD" (yhwh)
Lev 23:1-4 says it is reserved as a day of worship and is kept from sunset Friday to sundown Saturday evening.
Is 66:23 says it is to be a day of worship for "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall All mankind to come before Me and worship" for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth
Mark 2:27 says it was 'made for mankind'
Rev 14:7 says to "“Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
Ex 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all t
hat is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Rev 14:12 says the saints "keep the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"
Man's word:
God's Word
John 12:49 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
Ex 20:6 "love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "IF you Love Me KEEP My Commandments"
1 John 5:2-3 "This IS the Love of God - that we KEEP His Commandments"
So may argue that all that was before the cross - so pay no attention to that part of "scripture" -- it is not for Christians. Yet "Christian" means - follower of Christ and Christ is speaking both in John 14 - and in Exodus 20.
"what matters is keeping the Commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19
"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
notice Jesus' own words in John's Gospel where Jesus affirms that HIS Commandments and the Father's are in fact one
John 5:19 "19 Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner."
John 8:28 "28 So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
John 12:49 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
John 14: "10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works."
Which is why in John 14:15 we see this
15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
Instead of "keep My Commandments - not My Father's commandments - just mine"
And it is why John 15:10 does not say that either
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
And of course God the Father gave Jesus the ministry of "Savior" to the world such that Jesus prayed "Father if it be possible let this cup pass from me - nevertheless not my will - but Thy will be done"
John said - Jesus kept His Father's Commandments.
John said - we should do as Jesus did.
1 John 2: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
==================================================
Jesus gave us the TEN Commandments - they were spoken by HiM as we see in the NEW Covenant
Heb 8 (And Jer 31:31-33)
6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. 8 For finding fault with them, He says,
“Behold, days are coming, says the Lord,
When I will effect a new covenant
With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers
On the day when I took them by the hand
To lead them out of the land of Egypt;
For they did not continue in My covenant,
And I did not care for them, says the Lord.
10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.
Exegesis demands that the moral law of God written on the mind and heart in Jer 31:31-33 is the one that Jeremiah and his readers knew.
==========================
If you oppose the Commandments of God in NT times - then answer this question -
In Eph 6:2 - "honor your father and mother for this is the first commandment with a promise" -- what Law?
- what unit of Law is it to be found that 'honor your father and mother" is the FIRST commandment with a promise??
First commandment where??
========================= next
having provided the obvious answer to that question - the next point is addressed by Mark 7 telling us whether God's law can be edited/changed by church tradition.
Mark 7
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
so then is Christ approving of church tradition editing/tweaking the Law of God in that scripture ?? simple question -- easy answer.
===================================
Ex 20:8-11 says the 7th day is a day of rest.
Ex 20:10 "the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD" (yhwh)
Lev 23:1-4 says it is reserved as a day of worship and is kept from sunset Friday to sundown Saturday evening.
Is 66:23 says it is to be a day of worship for "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall All mankind to come before Me and worship" for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth
Mark 2:27 says it was 'made for mankind'
Rev 14:7 says to "“Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
Ex 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all t
hat is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Rev 14:12 says the saints "keep the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"
Man's word:
God's Word
John 12:49 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
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