Patriotism replaces Worship of God - an example

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1) I can't think of anything more divisive in the Church then helping the abortion industry.

2) I can't think of anything more divisive than being content with the death of the innocent.
You make is sound so noble, yet politics are full of economic covetousness and discontentment, which are works of flesh. Will you agree?
 
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So, if your family is in danger, you wouldn't even call the police? After all, they fight with weapons.

Wow.
Sure i would call the police. You are misunderstanding my position however. I believe its better to pray than to fight with people.
 
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You make is sound so noble, yet politics are full of economic covetousness and discontentment, which are works of flesh. Will you agree?

You've just described the abortion industry, which appreciate your passive support.
 
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Sure i would call the police. You are misunderstanding my position however. I believe its better to pray than to fight with people.

This makes no sense. If you don't support fighting, why would you call police officers with weapons who fight?
 
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Oh I believe you have good intentions. There is just no biblical logic behind them.
Sure there is. The natural man cannot receive the things of God. You must put on your spiritual glasses and see the economic covetousness and discontentment. Thats what politics leads us into, but its a lack of faith.
 
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Sure there is. The natural man cannot receive the things of God. You must put on your spiritual glasses and see the economic covetousness and discontentment. Thats what politics leads us into, but its a lack of faith.

And yet you refuse to put on the biblical glasses that show a holocaust right under your nose.

Think about it. You'll call men with guns to save yourself, but won't vote to save an innocent unborn child. Amazing!
 
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This makes no sense. If you don't support fighting, why would you call police officers with weapons who fight?
Paul submitted to pagan authority but he didnt promote it. Politics are riddled with economic covetousness and discontentment, which is a work of flesh.
 
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And yet you refuse to put on the biblical glasses that show a holocaust right under your nose.

Think about it. You'll call men with guns to save yourself, but won't vote to save an innocent unborn child. Amazing!
I wouldnt bear arms against anyone, i would pray. Do you have no faith in prayer?
 
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Paul submitted to pagan authority but he didnt promote it. Politics are riddled with economic covetousness and discontentment, which is a work of flesh.

Paul believed the government had a role in protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty. Romans 13. He believed in the role of the sword. He is diametrically opposed to the eastern-religion pacifism you're promoting.
 
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I hate to break this to you, but if you call men with guns (the police) when in trouble, you are bearing arms.
Politics are full of economic covetousness and discontentment which are works of the flesh. We will reap what we sow.
 
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Paul believed the government had a role in protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty. Romans 13. He believed in the role of the sword. He is diametrically opposed to the eastern-religion pacifism you're promoting.
Yes but Politics are full of economic covetousness and discontentment which are works of the flesh. We will reap what we sow.
 
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Here is a website you can tune into to see the abortion numbers in realtime.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Here are some snapshots:

In United States today
1,469.8

US since 1973: Roe vs Wade
59,873,086.2 (about double the murders of Hitler and Stalin combine)

Maybe you'll think about this next time you vote for a pro-abortion democrat, or turn you back and don't vote at all. Or before you call armed police to protect your own assets.
 
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Acts 22:25 And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said to the centurion who stood by, “Is it lawful for you to scourge a man who is a Roman, and uncondemned?”

So Paul appealing to Roman civil law is an act of being a proud Roman patriot?

I find these sorts of contortions very fascinating.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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So Paul appealing to Roman civil law is an act of being a proud Roman patriot?

I find these sorts of contortions very fascinating.

-CryptoLutheran

He also called on Christians to offer their homelands taxes, fear and honor. Romans 13:7. I didn't say it, Paul did. Argue your liberalism with him.
 
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