Is God infinitely ancient?

[Saved.By.Grace]

The problem with this that time as Being counted from the beginning for Genesis 1:1 indicates the beginning of time namely the first day of the week (v.5). You confuse the first day of the year with the first day of the week:

01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_________01 02 03 04

Genesis 1:1- 2:3 gives us the beginning of God's Solar Calendar

are you saying that the days in Genesis chapter 1 are literal 24 hour days, or 7 periods of time?

 

[Saved.By.Grace]

On the other hand..... Gap Theory and the evidence for it
implies that the sun may have been there.... but obscured by a cloud
of ash from the war in heaven where Satan and his one third of the angels attempted
a coup.


NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.

The so-called "gap theory" that is meant to exist between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, is no more than conjecture, which is neither found in the Hebrew or Greek grammar of the structure of the passage, or in any other passage in the entire Holy Bible, which is just the 66 Books, and no additions as some "bibles" have.

 

[DennisTate]

The problem with this that time as Being counted from the beginning for Genesis 1:1 indicates the beginning of time namely the first day of the week (v.5). You confuse the first day of the year with the first day of the week:

01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_________01 02 03 04

Genesis 1:1- 2:3 gives us the beginning of God's Solar Calendar

I honestly don't quite understand this but......
I have a challenge for you Sir!

Please begin to pray about you..... being an actor.... playing the role of yourself....... as a Falasha Jew but the year is 1939 and you end up on the M. S. St. Louis.

You are turned away from Cuba...... turned away from Florida but.......
Dr. Moses Coady organizes the fishermen of Canso and Port Bickerton, Liscombe and Ecum Secum to take their lobster boats out to Sable Island..... to meet the M. S. St Louis where she is mired in the sand bars of Sable Island.

This is an example off applied Multiverse Theory.....


The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

 

[GingerBeer]

That is seriously deep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, it is seriously superficial.

 

[DennisTate]

The so-called "gap theory" that is meant to exist between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, is no more than conjecture, which is neither found in the Hebrew or Greek grammar of the structure of the passage, or in any other passage in the entire Holy Bible, which is just the 66 Books, and no additions as some "bibles" have.

But it sure would answer a lot of questions and IF......
the near death experience of Dr. Richard Eby is an actual meeting of a man with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus then it seems that Gap Theory is probably correct.

It would sure explain what Dr. Eby is shown about the revolt of Satan / Lucifer and one third of the angels.

 

[DennisTate]

God exits outside the confines of time. God's Day is from darkness/night to light/morning (much like the process taking place within/journey of our soul)... before the sun, moon and stars were created on the the fourth day. Which has to do with our perception as it relates to the question asked to Adam, "Where art thou?"

I had to read this again.......... just to be sure....... Nope.... nothing superficial about this to my appraisal.

I am 58 years old, I have been studying the Jewish and Christian scriptures since I was a teenager and you explained things in this one paragraph that I had never been told previously!

Not quite like this anyway!

This is an exceptional post..........PeaceJoyLove...... I perceive that you are playing around in the major leagues philosophically and theologically.

 

[DennisTate]

No, it is seriously superficial.

Let me guess..... you have never watched the documentary "The Secret" on Netflix have you?

The Secret (book) - Wikipedia

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

I had to read this again.......... just to be sure....... Nope.... nothing superficial about this to my appraisal.

I am 58 years old, I have been studying the Jewish and Christian scriptures since I was a teenager and you explained things in this one paragraph that I had never been told previously!

Not quite like this anyway!

This is an exceptional post..........PeaceJoyLove...... I perceive that you are playing around in the major leagues philosophically and theologically.

My measure of faith (which each has been given) has caused the promises of God to be my possession...having entered into his rest/the city/heaven and truth of the son (no gender implied) I am through a son...One (again)...though nothing I did of myself.

 

[GingerBeer]

Let me guess..... you have never watched the documentary "The Secret" on Netflix have you?

That is correct. Never watched Netflix. The comment was superficial because God is light and in him is no darkness at all (1 John 1:5)

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

He has removed all confusion for He is a God of order and nothing is out place, everything exactly as it is supposed to be. He has a purpose He purposed in Himself since the beginning. In this place (of entering in) time has no meaning as it pertains to eternal truth.
God is outside of the confines of time as man knows/sees...a day of the Lord is as a thousand years and Adam lived 930 years, falling short by 70 years to being complete in God's time...which is a truth relative to our soul journey/process taking place within. Things are not as they appear to the mind of man...

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Okay...I am not measuring God. I simply pointed out the difference between the days of the week and the days of the year.

 

[Saved.By.Grace]

But it sure would answer a lot of questions and IF......
the near death experience of Dr. Richard Eby is an actual meeting of a man with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus then it seems that Gap Theory is probably correct.

It would sure explain what Dr. Eby is shown about the revolt of Satan / Lucifer and one third of the angels.

I don't think that we can build a doctrine on what someone may have experienced. Surely we must base what we believe and teach on the Holy Bible as our final Authority.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Did God exist from infinite time in the past?

If so.... what was God doing?

There is a saying that "It's the economy s.....!" This question actually
has a relationship with the economy and money because...... .if.....

Infinity implies eternity, and eternity is NO time. God is eternal, meaning he exists OUTSIDE of time. So the whole idea of infinity past is meaningless. Rather, you should be looking at the eternal NOW.

As far as God having a relationship with the economy is without merit at all.

 

[truckerdan]

No man can serve 2 masters. One cannot serve God and Greed.

 

[Saved.By.Grace]

No man can serve 2 masters. One cannot serve God and Greed.

And what has this to do with this present topic?

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

That is correct. Never watched Netflix. The comment was superficial because God is light and in him is no darkness at all (1 John 1:5)

Who said God was darkness? I spoke of the Day of the Lord that was be
before sun and moon to mark time as man of the earth sees.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Who said God was darkness? I spoke of the Day of the Lord that was be
before sun and moon to mark time as man of the earth sees.

Which relates to perception/perceiving from

 

[truckerdan]

No man can serve 2 masters. One cannot serve God and Greed.

Just my take on God's relationship with money and the economy.

 

[DennisTate]

And what has this to do with this present topic?

I am attempting to lay a foundation for a paradigm shift in economics based on the idea that God places off the scale value on each and every human life......... and therefore on the land and resources that can improve...... and save human lives.

 

[Lee Stuvmen]

Did God exist from infinite time in the past?

If so.... what was God doing?

There is a saying that "It's the economy s.....!" This question actually
has a relationship with the economy and money because...... .if.....
God existed from eternity in the past and if God..........
actually planned, engineered and choreographed an essentially infinite
number of Big Bang type events......(they might actually might have been more
like a Big Flash though)...... .then..... investing infinite time in the past in the
creation........ could make the creation infinitely valuable to God.......
but we humans are so young...... that we place relatively low value on our
lives and even less value on the lives of others...... and even less value than that
on the lives of animals, birds, fish and plants.

To understand what you ask, one must CONSIDER God on a higher sense.

Take for example LOVE.

It takes a conscious being to be aware of LOVE and to experience LOVE.

A rock cannot feel LOVE.

Did our generation invent LOVE, or is what humans experience as LOVE ageless and possibly eternal?

When did LOVE begin.

Is Scripture trying to relate to humans that when humans FEEL LOVE, what they are feeling is actually what humans know as God, inside them?

IS the MOST POWERFUL force in the Spiritual realm, . . . LOVE?

1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God;

for God is love.



What about TRUTH?

When did truth begin?

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Infinity implies eternity, and eternity is NO time. God is eternal, meaning he exists OUTSIDE of time. So the whole idea of infinity past is meaningless. Rather, you should be looking at the eternal NOW.

As far as God having a relationship with the economy is without merit at all.

No man can serve 2 masters. One cannot serve God and Greed.

You two do understand that economy is Greek for 'House management' right? Why wouldn't God be involved in managing the household...which by the way involves finances...there's a difference between loving money and managing it properly.