Gun Control

[TestifyToTruth]

I would love to see gun control - a peaceful society with an honest police and security services fully protecting the people and their inalienable rights.

But open your eyes. The US is sliding into tyranny. A lot (not all) of these lone nut shootings and terrorist attacks are False Flag events. In other words they are staged by the "deep state" - which seems to control certain sections (and probably a small minority) of the otherwise patriotic law enforcement and secret agencies.

I want to believe that Stephen Paddock was a lone nut. But this is another official story full of holes, and more implausible than most. There were multiple witnesses to there being multiple shooters. Such as this story in Australian mainstream media:

No Cookies | The Courier Mail

 

[2Timothy2:15]

I propose that we require all guns be manufactured with
various piezoelectric radio transmitters. This would
be a variety of "nuggets" formed into the barrel and
stock that will emit radio frequency bursts resulting
from shock, vibration, or impact.
This should be required within 5 years. The requirement
would result in development of the needed technology.

This would allow anyone to identify the location of gunfire.
Hotel owners and anti-sniper personnel.

This would affect the lone legal shooter as well as street
guns (unless imported illegally). But likely street guns
would not be illegal imports.

So only illegal imports would be unable to locate unless
the shooter wrapped the gun in a seperate blocking blanket.
Still lethal, but much more trouble.

These could emit serial numbers for each gun, but I'd
be willing to negotiate on that.

We could relax background checks on legal purchases
in exchange for tracking where shots were fired.

What is your plan for cars that people use to run over others? How about bombs, what is your plan for that?

 

[SkyWriting]

What is your plan for cars that people use to run over others? How about bombs, what is your plan for that?

Cars will be driverless pretty soon. Auto bumpers would be
a good application for pinpointing accidents in the meantime.

Triangulating explosions
using this technology could be done in road construction or
just strung on existing powerlines. It's always good to find
and explosion source quickly.

 

[SkyWriting]

But open your eyes. The US is sliding into tyranny. A lot (not all) of these lone nut shootings and terrorist attacks are False Flag events. In other words they are staged by the "deep state" - which seems to control certain sections (and probably a small minority) of the otherwise patriotic law enforcement and secret agencies.

You could make millions writing movie scripts.

 

[Apex]

Uh huh. What other weapons could kill that many folks, that fast, without detection? Pretty sure they had barriers up around the concert blocking vehicles from being able to plow through.

It's just flat out dumb to say that the weapons weren't the issue in Vegas.

Ever hear of chemical warfare?

Tokyo subway sarin attack - Wikipedia

 

[Apex]

This has got nothing to do with government, other than they require all guns
be built that way.

The FBI estimates that there are about 240 million legal guns privately owned in America alone. What is going to stop criminals from buying one of those? They don't have to buy a new gun. I just was at a pawn shop the other day. They had at least 20 previously owned guns for sale.

 

[SkyWriting]

The FBI estimates that there are about 240 million legal guns privately owned in America alone. What is going to stop criminals from buying one of those? They don't have to buy a new gun. I just was at a pawn shop the other day. They had at least 20 previously owned guns for sale.

Private collectors will not sell their collection on demand.
Used guns could be refurbished. Thanks for the idea.

 

[SkyWriting]

The problem is not the guns. Take away the guns, or make their use impractical, and criminals will merely resort to other weapons to achieve their desired result.

Drive-by knife throwing? I have less concerns about the innocent
getting bombed, at this time.

 

[SkyWriting]

It certainly does. And it means that any Tom, Dick, or Harry could show up at my hunting camp or where I have shot when hunting, or at my property when I am shooting coyotes or just sighting in a gun.

They can do that now. People have ears.

 

[Hank77]

They can do that now. People have ears.

Not according to the OP author.

 

[SkyWriting]

How long do you think it would take people to alter
or remove such transmitters? What if they didn't?
Can you imagine the radio noise around gun ranges?

Yes, I've listened to gun range noise all day long at one job I had selling RV's.
The transmitters would be molded into the steel and the stock.
It would be much easier to wrap the gun to contain the signals.
Imagine a thug with a blankey wrapped weapon.

 

[SkyWriting]

Not according to the OP author.

Yes, even I admit people already have ears and guns already make noise.
But radio signals would be easier to triangulate than our current
noise monitoring systems. We can only triangulate about 200 ft
diameter circles and only in limited areas.

 

[Armoured]

All you are doing is making gun usage difficult for the law abiding.
Any one with the time and intent could circumvent your modifications.

As per the usual, honest folks get hassled.
Criminals essentially unaffected.

Yep, criminals are just gunna break laws anyway, so why bother having laws at all?

 

[InterestedApologist]

How many mass casualty events do you know of that are achieved with "other weapons"?

The world trade centers were destroyed by airplanes that were hijacked using lowly box cutters. Oklahoma City was bombed. The Boston marathon was bombed using a pressure cooker. Look at Paris and London, massive amounts of fatalities without the aid of firearms.

 

[SkyWriting]

All you are doing is making gun usage difficult for the law abiding.
Any one with the time and intent could circumvent your modifications.

As per the usual, honest folks get hassled.
Criminals essentially unaffected.

Most of the shootings in the city are by those under 20 with
very little thought put into what they are doing. You could
mount a flashing red rotating beacon to each gun and they's still
use it as is.


What kind of hassles are you imagining?

 

[InterestedApologist]

Yep, criminals are just gunna break laws anyway, so why bother having laws at all?

In America, there is the 2nd amendment which guarantees individual rights to own firearms. This has been upheld by the SCOTUS. In this sense, any laws that are made are not just impacting criminals, but the law abiding citizens as well. You are oversimplifying a very complicated issue.

 

[SkyWriting]

Yep, criminals are just gunna break laws anyway, so why bother having laws at all?

I'm not proposing any new restrictions on the public. This just allows
anyone to track gunfire easier. Currently you have to place microphones
in public areas and triangulate using the noise. Our city does this now.

This would allow the public to locate the source of gunfire
and determine if it was a hazard. Like any gunfire inside
the city limits. People in the country can still do as they
wish. Hunters could locate other hunters and hunt safer.
But only after gunfire.

 

[SkyWriting]

In America, there is the 2nd amendment which guarantees individual rights to own firearms. This has been upheld by the SCOTUS. In this sense, any laws that are made are not just impacting criminals, but the law abiding citizens as well. You are oversimplifying a very complicated issue.

The firearms are not required to be silent or invisible for the public.
This proposal just makes USE of guns more visible and easier to locate.
USE of guns has always been legally limited to restricted areas.
You may still carry them anywhere you are currently allowed to.
This has no impact on lawful use of firearms.
It only impacts thugs.

 

[2Timothy2:15]

Cars will be driverless pretty soon. Auto bumpers would be
a good application for pinpointing accidents in the meantime.

Triangulating explosions
using this technology could be done in road construction or
just strung on existing powerlines. It's always good to find
and explosion source quickly.

Driver-less cars are not coming to the masses soon. How easy will it be to hack a driver less car and drive it into the wall. Or hack a car and drive that into people. Also, triangulating a bomb after it explodes does not prevent anything and it really is not a technology that exists anyways.

 

[dogs4thewin]

What a convoluted point you're making then. True mass shootings happen nearly every single week in America, that ought to be more than enough to make a difference. I reckon the loved ones of the victims of the thousands of mass shootings think there's been more than plenty of them for this to already be a major problem.

True mass shootings do not happen every week if they did they would not be reported. Moreover, the issue of how many of the mass shootings you are talking about involved between three and say seven victims how many are COMPLETELY random?