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Do be careful with adding to the word as it tends to bring forth false doctrine
Did you think they gave piggyback rides to the animals who covered them?

Do be careful about idle words
 
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Did you think they gave piggyback rides to the animals who covered them?

Do be careful about idle words


Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.


nowhere in this verse does it say anything about being clothed in animal skins and by adding to GODS word you have taken from them, seeing if you do a word study you will discover they were clothed in there own skin in relation to being naked and ashamed ...

my words to you were not idle as you put it but a heads up ... so to speak

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

 
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Eve had nothing to do with it
GOD has many children

HE created them both in HIS LIKENESS

Neither could reflect the perfect image they were created in

Multiply man (male and female alike) and this is the reason why man ( male and female alike) began to call on the name of the LORD

For the very same reason as what you are trying to imply

unrighreouaness
Finger pointing
Oppression
And lording it over one another not understanding that we are all brothers and sisters....none better or worse than the other

And in CHRIST what was taken out of Adam and division began is being put back into ONE BODY in CHRIST and is ONE where there is neither male or female slave or free Jew or gentile

ONE and in ONE
Male or female is a moot point (and I have not said it was) for it is what is on the inside/within us that must awaken to God's Truth.
Spiritually speaking, this truth has nothing to do with the physical observation. For finding the son (no gender implied) we are IN Christ takes place within us. Duality persists for a time (battle of Galatians 5) until we come to the end of self-soul life which is death and enter into LIFE through the son, as a son (no gender implied) and many seek outside of self, observing for signs in the earth and sky with their five senses.

I accuse no one of anything. We all originate from the same place (from the beginning) whether we can see it or not. What happened with Adam (and the woman) is picture of our journey of soul. Our (coming to an) end takes us back to the beginning (again). Our perception of this changes over the course of our journey of soul which narrows down to the ONE that we are IN HIM (through HIM).
 
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"Spiritually speaking, this truth has nothing to do with the physical observation" :oldthumbsup:

It is the Spirit giving life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit and they are life.
 
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Can you tell me what object lesson we should have learned when Adam and Eve , our first parents (and Ishmaels first parents) were covered over in a coat of bloodied animal skins and sent out from GOD's original and full presence

"And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed."...clothed only in their skin/flesh

Adam and Eve sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons for they were suddenly ashamed of their nakedness. We are spirit beings housed in a tent of flesh/skin that God provided.

Our soul journey/process is likened to the land in scripture. Adam and Eve girded up (war) themselves as they suddenly perceived from somewhere else and God placed the cherubim to guard the Tree of Life, for which man seeks to find...

"And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.
But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof."

When they cast their leaves...ONE remains...
 
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The battle which will gather the "kings of the earth" after the 1000 year reign will happen where?

And by the way, who is reigning and where are these (who are reigning during the 1000 year) reigning

On the Earth, planet Earth. What it will demonstrate is that even when Satan is out of the picture mankind is still depraved. it's because we were made from the dust, air and water which was contaminated with darkness/death from the beginning.

Christian Martyrs are ruling and reigning with Christ during the millennial.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 
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speaking of leaves/thoughts in relation to those of a Christ as opposed to those of an Adam ..

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but his leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
 
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speaking of leaves/thoughts in relation to those of a Christ as opposed to those of an Adam ..

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but his leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

Reminds me of the blind man Jesus healed:

Mar 8:23 And He took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when He had spit on his eyes, and put His hands upon him, He asked him if he saw ought. Mar 8:24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

Is this evidence of another dimension in the Multiverse?

Mar 8:25 After that He put His hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

Can God see all of us as Trees? Of course He can. It will be really hard to hide at the Judgment. Amen?
 
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Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.


nowhere in this verse does it say anything about being clothed in animal skins and by adding to GODS word you have taken from them, seeing if you do a word study you will discover they were clothed in there own skin in relation to being naked and ashamed ...

my words to you were not idle as you put it but a heads up ... so to speak

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

Again. The coats of skins were taken from the animals and were symbolic of a sacrifice and a (second) covering/garment between GOD and man
 
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speaking of leaves/thoughts in relation to those of a Christ as opposed to those of an Adam ..

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but his leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
Not apart from the SOURCE can a branch bear anything

John 15

Better to be IN THE CHRIST than to imply oneself to be "a Christ"
 
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Reminds me of the blind man Jesus healed:

Mar 8:23 And He took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when He had spit on his eyes, and put His hands upon him, He asked him if he saw ought. Mar 8:24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

Is this evidence of another dimension in the Multiverse?

Mar 8:25 After that He put His hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

Can God see all of us as Trees? Of course He can. It will be really hard to hide at the Judgment. Amen?
Okee dokee

It will also be very hard to say
LORD, LORD didn't ((((I)))) apart from the ONE who is THE SOURCE of LIFE

For really apart from CHRIST what can one do?
 
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On the Earth, planet Earth. What it will demonstrate is that even when Satan is out of the picture mankind is still depraved. it's because we were made from the dust, air and water which was contaminated with darkness/death from the beginning.

Christian Martyrs are ruling and reigning with Christ during the millennial.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
So these Christian martyrs of the BODY

Where are they reigning?

In Heaven
Or on the earth
 
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Okee dokee

It will also be very hard to say
LORD, LORD didn't ((((I)))) apart from the ONE who is THE SOURCE of LIFE

For really apart from CHRIST what can one do?
When we 'see' Christ as something separate from us, how can there be ONE?

Being ONE takes us back to the beginning, in a garden with no serpent...Duality, more than One, is not being single of eye.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
 
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When we 'see' Christ as something separate from us, how can there be ONE?

Being ONE takes us back to the beginning, in a garden with no serpent...Duality, more than One, is not being single of eye.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Paul's letters are addressed only to those in THE BODY and not to those outside THE BODY
 
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When we 'see' Christ as something separate from us, how can there be ONE?

Being ONE takes us back to the beginning, in a garden with no serpent...Duality, more than One, is not being single of eye.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
You forgot

There is only ONE BAPTISM
And ONE FAITH


I'm not sure that all agree that they need to be baptized into CHRIST through faith in HIM


In fact, in this world, there are many "faiths" even though GOD has said by HIS WORD and SPIRIT

That there is only ONE FAITH

One can't be of the ONE BODY if they haven't been baptized into HIS BODY through faith in HIS BLOOD which washes and covers those who believe
 
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You forgot

There is only ONE BAPTISM
And ONE FAITH


I'm not sure that all agree that they need to be baptized into CHRIST through faith in HIM


In fact, in this world, there are many "faiths" even though GOD has said by HIS WORD and SPIRIT

That there is only ONE FAITH

One can't be of the ONE BODY if they haven't been baptized into HIS BODY through faith in HIS BLOOD which washes and covers those who believe

Agree. One who KNOWS the son knows the Father as fully as he has been known...has received a white stone with a new name "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

One is not One as long as duality remains within, an adversary in the garden. Repentance starts the process/journey within, "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire." God is a consuming fire. A picture of this in shadow is in the O.T. sacrifice of flesh on the altar, all must be consumed by morning, and any that remained was to be totally burned up by fire...or Noah' flood, the ark came to rest upon a mountain and he sent out a dove who found no place for her feet to rest until we see Jesus' baptism in the Jordan and "lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

"Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"

Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Which goes back to what happened in the garden with Adam and Eve...and the journey/process our soul must go coming to the Truth of who we are IN HIM, a son (no gender implied).
 
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Throughout our journey/process of soul to waking up, perception is everything. We see from where we are within that process...to becoming single of eye/blind to see...losing our soul/coming to an end of self to find it/Life again as a son, back at the beginning.

Awakening from the dust realm/five senses perceiving to Spirit, knowing the son that we are IN HIm. The Day of the Lord...has to do with the first Adam and the Last Adam...How we perceive that can be the difference of stumbling in a pit or a door open to heaven...


In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last...
 
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Agree. One who KNOWS the son knows the Father as fully as he has been known...has received a white stone with a new name "To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

One is not One as long as duality remains within, an adversary in the garden. Repentance starts the process/journey within, "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire." God is a consuming fire. A picture of this in shadow is in the O.T. sacrifice of flesh on the altar, all must be consumed by morning, and any that remained was to be totally burned up by fire...or Noah' flood, the ark came to rest upon a mountain and he sent out a dove who found no place for her feet to rest until we see Jesus' baptism in the Jordan and "lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

"Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"

Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Which goes back to what happened in the garden with Adam and Eve...and the journey/process our soul must go coming to the Truth of who we are IN HIM, a son (no gender implied).
The way was blocked
And there is only ONE WAY back into the kingdom of GOD

Make sure you are preaching THE TRUTH
 
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So who is guilty of preaching a lie?

Is man's salvation dependent on your perception?

In which case, my "supposed duality" is a hindrance, preventing salvation to all?

So who is hindering and misrepresenting THE GOSPEL?

Me?

Or you who by your own carnal senses are preaching to men "you will surely not die"?

Regardless of whether they hsve the RIGHT ( wedding) GARMENT

Matthew 22
 
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I have not accused you Truth cast down becomes an adversary in the garden. Christ is the way, truth and LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through The Son. I have said nothing contrary to that Truth.

The wedding feast prepared by the Father, through The Door, indeed, clothed/enclosed (again). He who has the bride is the bridegroom. Which relates back to the garden and becoming One (again) through Christ...

But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.


He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross,so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
 
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