Adam ?

[Hethatreadethit]

Do you believe God had no idea what would happen when he made man on the earth?

Kids have to grow up and go to school eventually. The school of hard-knocks is one that many of us know.
I'm standing with the "Big Guy" on this issue. He that maketh all things knows their abilities and their limitations. This you can believe:

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

I believe that man will eventually learn His lesson. In corn breeding it takes many years to come up with the desired trait or traits. Noah was selected alone to continue the work of God's purpose. Christ alone continued this purpose.

The introduction of the threshingfloor and wine press will turn out a product of man far greater than Adam or Satan.

 

[miknik5]

(Not that you dont know this ...) Nothing (even the concept of nothing) is here outside of the one who creates; the creation is filled with images that become object lessons to bring us to an end that is a beginning to us.

Can you tell me what object lesson we should have learned when Adam and Eve , our first parents (and Ishmaels first parents) were covered over in a coat of bloodied animal skins and sent out from GOD's original and full presence

 

[miknik5]

(Not that you dont know this ...) Nothing (even the concept of nothing) is here outside of the one who creates; the creation is filled with images that become object lessons to bring us to an end that is a beginning to us.

Do not attribute to GOD what does not belong to GOD

Hethatreadethit seems to be explaining that concept

 

[Aseyesee]

Kids have to grow up and go to school eventually. The school of hard-knocks is one that many of us know.
I'm standing with the "Big Guy" on this issue. He that maketh all things knows their abilities and their limitations. This you can believe:

Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

I believe that man will eventually learn His lesson. In corn breeding it takes many years to come up with the desired trait or traits. Noah was selected alone to continue the work of God's purpose. Christ alone continued this purpose.

The introduction of the threshingfloor and wine press will turn out a product of man far greater than Adam or Satan.

Yet ... Noah plants a vineyard, and his nakedness is revealed ... a pattern ...

"Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things."

 

[Aseyesee]

Can you tell me what object lesson we should have learned when Adam and Eve , our first parents (and Ishmaels first parents) were covered over in a coat of bloodied animal skins and sent out from GOD's original and full presence

An issue of soul ... for us even down to a single thought ...

 

[miknik5]

Yet ... Noah plants a vineyard, and his nakedness is revealed ... a pattern ...

"Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things."

Yes

And two of the three of Noah's sons did the work of a priest before GOD by covering their father's nakedness by providing him with a COVERING

We need a COVERING
Christ is that COVERING

And mr mud suckers can't remain an Adam on a destination that requires one to turn to be healed and be covered by the one and only GARMENT needed at the wedding feast of the lamb

Even the law reminds "Adam/man" not to come up to the altar uncovered

 

[Aseyesee]

Do not attribute to GOD what does not belong to GOD

Hethatreadethit seems to be explaining that concept

Was there anything before God ... God is either an absolute or he is not; either knowledge rules over you, or you rule over knowledge ... an issue of soul; but how many different ways can you say the same truth ...

 

[Aseyesee]

Yes

And two of the three of Noah's sons did the work of a priest before GOD by COVERKNG their father's nakedness by providing him with a COVERING

We need a covering
Christ is that covering
And mr mud suckers can't remain an Adam on a destination that requires one to turn and be healed and be covered by the one and only GARMENT needed at the wedding feast of the lamb

Even the law reminds "Adam/man" not to come up to the altar uncovered

This ties into a tree; that which was forbidden people perish without.

From one place, a garment is like a river that can be parted.

The son of man is the son of God, two that our soul cannot make one by labor.

 

[mozo41]

Can you tell me what object lesson we should have learned when Adam and Eve , our first parents (and Ishmaels first parents) were covered over in a coat of bloodied animal skins and sent out from GOD's original and full presence

Do be careful with adding to the word as it tends to bring forth false doctrine

 

[Aman777]

Where in that scripture do you see the words mosquitoes, viruses and angels? Angels are heavenly creatures whose abode is heaven. Mosquitos are predatory parasites which appeared after sin. Viruses are something in between life and death whose malignant functions indicate something sinister and alien to a benevolent God.

Genesis 1:28 plainly states that Adam (Hebrew-mankind) will have dominion over "every living creature". Since mankind has NEVER had rule over mosquitoes, ticks, and all other predator parasites in the PAST, we WILL not have rule over them until Jesus comes back to rule and reign on this Earth for a thousand years at the end of time. This event is FUTURE to 2017.

Also, Jesus made the creeping creatures BEFORE Adam sinned. Your idea is Un-Scriptural. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Ummm, Cain was born AFTER Adam and Eve had sinned and were banned from the Garden. Cain was their son-you know? He was their first-born.
Cain and Abel
1Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, "I have gotten a manchild with the help of the LORD." 2Again, she gave birth to his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of flocks, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Genesis 2:1

Where are you deriving these concepts from? Just curious since they go completely contrary to the Genesis account.

Amen. I always try to post supporting Scripture. Adam was "formed" by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs and trees. Gen 2:4-7 Eve was NOT made from Adam's rib until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 BOTH were created in God's Image at the SAME time. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2 ALL of this was AFTER the fall.

Adam did not "know" Eve until AFTER the fall since he was like Jesus and NOT flesh. He and Eve changed from immortal to flesh, subject to death, when he sinned. We will NEVER be naked in Heaven since we will regain our likeness as that of Jesus and we will be surrounded by a Shekinah Glory. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Why when HE comes and makes all things new and destroys death the last enemy should we even have dominion over viruses?

There shouldn't be any viruses

There won't be after the 1,000 year reign, but flesh will still be subject to death until Christians/host are ALL in Heaven. Gen 2:1

 

[Aman777]

I would say God was pleased, since what He made and created was, very good, and for His pleasure.

Correction: God will be pleased when His creation is finished (Heb-brought to perfection) at the end of the present 6th Day which is FUTURE to our time. Then, God will rest from ALL of His work of creating because everything will be perfect. Gen 2:1

 

[Noxot]

an artist can be pleased with his artwork before it is finished because he is merely trying to represent something that is already there

 

[miknik5]

Was there anything before God ... God is either an absolute or he is not; either knowledge rules over you, or you rule over knowledge ... an issue of soul; but how many different ways can you say the same truth ...

You can say it this way
Adam was closer to GOD than any of us were. He didnt have multiple interference, intrusion, influence from many

But he listened and chose to eat from the tree which GOD (the ABSOLUTE) had forbidden him

Adam made a wrong choice and ate

The result of that outcome continues to bear both types of fruit:

Good and evil

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Amen. I always try to post supporting Scripture. Adam was "formed" by Lord God/Jesus on the 3rd Day BEFORE plants, herbs and trees. Gen 2:4-7 Eve was NOT made from Adam's rib until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22 BOTH were created in God's Image at the SAME time. Gen 1:27 and Gen 5:1-2 ALL of this was AFTER the fall.

Adam did not "know" Eve until AFTER the fall since he was like Jesus and NOT flesh. He and Eve changed from immortal to flesh, subject to death, when he sinned. We will NEVER be naked in Heaven since we will regain our likeness as that of Jesus and we will be surrounded by a Shekinah Glory. Amen?

"Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so...And the evening and the morning were the third day."

On the third day, grass, herb yielding see and the fruit tree yielding fruit bearing fruit containing seed of its own kind. (before there was sun or seasons...)
On the fourth day, the sun, moon and stars for days, seasons and years.
On the fifth day, creatures that move in the water and every kind of winged fowl.
On the sixth day, God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And, on this 6th day, God caused a slumber to come upon Adam (alone) opened his side to take out a woman...who was bone of his bone and flesh of flesh...the ONE became two...

The journey/process of our soul is finding our way (back) to ONE...ending the duality within...and the kingdom is within...what changed with Adam and the woman (because they ate) was their eyesight and Christ promises to make take away our sin, make us blind that we might SEE and give us ears to hear. Which has everything to do with the quesiton God asks, "Where art thou?" And, where are we eating from...and where we are hearing (from)...

Adam hearkened unto the voice of his wife and ate of the tree...


And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, ...In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread..."

Christ promises to serve us up bread, through The Door...reclined at the table...having entered into sabbath rest. Today always means today and He can only give us what we can see/hope for.

Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a desire fulfilled is a tree of life.

The journey/process of our soul finding the promise revealed...a son through the Son...wound healed...ONE again...The Spirit and the Bride say Come...

 

[miknik5]

Many voices offer many suggestions

We are responsible to make the right judgement between the works of the kingdom of light from the works wrought of the "wrong father"

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Many voices offer many suggestions

We are responsible to make the right judgement between the works of the kingdom of light from the works wrought of the "wrong father"

Which has everything to do with where we hear from...

"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life."

Adam had a helper whose voice he hearkened to...Christ promises a new helper...

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you."

Two become One (again)...

 

[miknik5]

There won't be after the 1,000 year reign, but flesh will still be subject to death until Christians/host are ALL in Heaven. Gen 2:1

The battle which will gather the "kings of the earth" after the 1000 year reign will happen where?

And by the way, who is reigning and where are these (who are reigning during the 1000 year) reigning

 

[miknik5]

Which has everything to do with where we hear from...

"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life."

Adam had a helper whose voice he hearkened to...Christ promises a new helper...

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you."

Two become One (again)...

Eve had nothing to do with it
GOD has many children

HE created them both in HIS LIKENESS

Neither could reflect the perfect image they were created in

Multiply man (male and female alike) and this is the reason why man ( male and female alike) began to call on the name of the LORD

For the very same reason as what you are trying to imply

unrighreouaness
Finger pointing
Oppression
And lording it over one another not understanding that we are all brothers and sisters....none better or worse than the other

And in CHRIST what was taken out of Adam and division began is being put back into ONE BODY in CHRIST and is ONE where there is neither male or female slave or free Jew or gentile

ONE and in ONE