No more transgender in the military -- poll

[Eric Reed]

"By your fruits, you will know them" and Trump's fruit is rotten to the core. He is so cunning that he's even convinced his right winged evangelical supporters that he accepted Jesus into his heart, which conveniently occurred during his campaign last year while he was pandering for the evangelical vote.

LOL. Is he truly so bad? Does a person as terrible as you want to protray him actually step out on a limb to support the Christian worldview like Trump has? The Trumpster has demonstrated more courage and action in supporting the Christian worldview than many presidents and professing Christians.

 

[jazzflower92]

Maybe you're joking, but according to that line of reasoning, so called "transgenders" should be allowed to be members of all America's institutions, and beyond that...school teachers, political offices, etc.

As church leaders that is one thing, but this is secular institutions and they don't adhere to God's rules.

 

[jazzflower92]

LOL. Is he truly so bad? Does a person as terrible as you want to protray him actually step out on a limb to support the Christian worldview like Trump has? The Trumpster has demonstrated more courage and action in supporting the Christian worldview than many presidents and professing Christians.

The guy who is a serial adulterer, says he never will apologize (even though it's a strong tenet of the faith), and is a crass person in general is someone who the opposite of the Christian worldview. He actually is only playing lipservice while playing people like fiddles.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

As church leaders that is one thing, but this is secular institutions and they don't adhere to God's rules.

Then why expect the President to?

 

[Eric Reed]

The guy who is a serial adulterer, says he never will apologize (even though it's a strong tenet of the faith), and is a crass person in general is someone who the opposite of the Christian worldview. He actually is only playing lipservice while playing people like fiddles.

Uh, when one follows through with commitments and promises, then it's not just lip service.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

The guy who is a serial adulterer, says he never will apologize (even though it's a strong tenet of the faith), and is a crass person in general is someone who the opposite of the Christian worldview. He actually is only playing lipservice while playing people like fiddles.

Lip service is better than nothing...

 

[AarontheStudent]

Let's simplify this.

Would you want to be on a bus going down a mountainside if God decides to judge the driver for whatever sin he's living?

I wouldn't want to, but I'd feel safe in knowing that God is just and merciful, and I have accepted Him into my life.

Jesus died for people like me, you, and the guy driving the bus to be saved.

 

[Ada Lovelace]

Honest question how should they handle latrine/head and housing that and the hate of transgender ( if and when they are found out) are the reasons that I do not feel transgender should serve and also why I have no problem with other members of the LBGT community serving openly.

Kristin Beck, a former member of the elite SEAL Team 6 who earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for valor during 20 years of service insists that transgender personnel in uniform now pose neither a distraction nor a money problem. She's a transgender woman. She's stated that it's a matter of leadership. There are people who hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, blacks, gays, liberals, conservatives, Northerners, Southerners, immigrants, feminists, right-wingers; there's a torrent of hatred, and there has been throughout human history. As a leader she was able to "take a Muslim and a Bible-thumping Christian and have them work together with no problems. They would serve with honor together and do a great job."

My grandparents thoroughly agree with her. They grew up when schools and public facilities were segregated by race, and a black person daring to drink from the water fountain labeled as being for whites only, or to use a bathroom other than the ones clearly designated for "colored" people were frequently subjected to harassment and abuse. They knew young men who were worried going into boot camp about sharing a bathroom with "colored boys". And they saw how prejudices faded when uniforms were put on, when missions were worked on collectively, and soldiers saved one another's lives regardless of their race. And when soldiers returned home, the prejudices they once held were often not brought back with them. In some families that changed the lens through which children grew up viewing people of other races. Racial integration in the military and the workforce helped to push along the evolution of societal attitudes.

The hatred for transgender people you reference is all the more reason for them to be in the military.

 

[jazzflower92]

Uh, when one follows through with commitments and promises, then it's not just lip service.

I think it's more on corrupted ideal than anything full of substance.

 

[jazzflower92]

Then why expect the President to?

For him to grow up, and act mature.

 

[Eric Reed]

Kristin Beck, a former member of the elite SEAL Team 6 who earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for valor during 20 years of service insists that transgender personnel in uniform now pose neither a distraction nor a money problem. She's a transgender woman. She's stated that it's a matter of leadership. There are people who hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, blacks, gays, liberals, conservatives, Northerners, Southerners, immigrants, feminists, right-wingers; there's a torrent of hatred, and there has been throughout human history. As a leader she was able to "take a Muslim and a Bible-thumping Christian and have them work together with no problems. They would serve with honor together and do a great job."

My grandparents thoroughly agree with her. They grew up when schools and public facilities were segregated by race, and a black person daring to drink from the water fountain labeled as being for whites only, or to use a bathroom other than the ones clearly designated for "colored" people were frequently subjected to harassment and abuse. They knew young men who were worried going into boot camp about sharing a bathroom with "colored boys". And they saw how prejudices faded when uniforms were put on, when missions were worked on collectively, and soldiers saved one another's lives regardless of their race. And when soldiers returned home, the prejudices they once held were often not brought back with them. In some families that changed the lens through which children grew up viewing people of other races. Racial integration in the military and the workforce helped to push along the evolution of societal attitudes.

The hatred for transgender people you reference is all the more reason for them to be in the military.

I think the black community fighting for equality back in the days would take exception with you using their struggles and fight against racism to promote the aberration of transgenderism. Stop equating skin color with sin and moral choices. And for the love of righteousness, stop equating hatred for transgenderism with hatred for "transgenders." There is a difference between hating a lifestyle and hating a person.

 

[Ada Lovelace]

I think the black community fighting for equality back in the days would take exception with you using their struggles and fight against racism to promote the aberration of transgenderism.

Fortunately, I know many who would take far more exception to the characterization of soldiers voluntarily fighting for their countries with honor and valor as an aberration. Thanks for reminding me how fortunate I am to know such people.

 

[Eric Reed]

Fortunately, I know many who would take far more exception to the characterization of soldiers voluntarily fighting for their countries with honor and valor as an aberration. Thanks for reminding me how fortunate I am to know such people.

Clumsy spin there. I was referring to transgenderism as an aberration, not persons nor their militarily service.

 

[Ada Lovelace]

Clumsy spin there. I was referring to transgenderism as an aberration, not militarily service, and you know it.

We're discussing transgender people who voluntarily and often valiantly serve their country in the military. Of course I know what you wrote; I expected you to comprehend what I wrote.

 

[SBC]

I think we could use all the help we can get in the military. If some future war happens and we lose because they had transgenders in their military and we didn't thats kind of a big deal.

In general I agree.
In specifics I disagree.

As well I disagree with specifics of recruiting tactics and operations tactics.

The express purpose of the military is to defend and protect the Nation (which is the homeland and her people) from other lands and people.

IMO the military should be comprised of those who ARE vested in, have allegiance to, have the ability to, have the desire to willingly, set aside their personal baggage, and fully defend and protect the Nation as their priority as a United Unit.

Just saying, promoting the military as a vacation to see the world, get freebie medical care, citizenship, special accommodations, blah, blah..... is not particularly geared toward vested, allegiance, integrity, united, etc.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[Yarddog]

What a strange reason. There have also been thieves who have and do serve in the military. What's your point?

What a strange response. If you can't get it from what I wrote you probably won't if I went into more detail.

 

[JoeP222w]

What is this Elementary School? What's next, "I'm rubber, you're glue"? SMH. And if you are attempting to chastise me for cherry picking too, you just omitted about 99% of my post that you quoted.

No, just pointing out your complete inconsistency.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

No, just pointing out your complete inconsistency.

Okay then...

 

[AV1611VET]

For the record, I'm against women serving in the military; let alone * cough * men in women's uniform.

I can see the Rangers capturing an interment camp and saying, "Send out the women first," and out come Bob and Carl and Ted and Alex.

 

[RDKirk]

The express purpose of the military is to defend and protect the Nation (which is the homeland and her people) from other lands and people.

To be specific, the expressed purpose is "...to support and defend the Constitution of the United States...."

Not, technically, the "the homeland and her people," but rather the ideals and system of government expressed in the Constitution "...from all enemies, foreign and domestic."