No more transgender in the military -- poll

[Mountainmanbob]

Fine with that up on the mountaintop.
M-Bob

 

[Angel Wings 1288]

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this."

Not only is transgenderism an abomination to God, it also shouldn't be tolerated by the US military. Our troops need money to pay for equipment in order to win wars. Military funding shouldn't be wasted on weirdos who want to mutilate their genitals to feel like the "right" gender.

 

[Yarddog]

Since there have been several transgender soldiers who have already served, I have no problem with them serving.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

I think we could use all the help we can get in the military. If some future war happens and we lose because they had transgenders in their military and we didn't thats kind of a big deal.

 

[tulc]

Well I think if we're going to have a problem with the money spent on transgender people I have an idea where we can save even more money:
http://nypost.com/2017/07/26/us-military-blows-millions-a-year-on-viagra-for-its-troops/

The US military blows $41.6 million a year on Viagra for its troops — about five times more than the estimated medical costs for transgender servicepeople, according to a new report.

there's a place where they could save even more money!
tulc(is just sayn')

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this."

Not only is transgenderism an abomination to God, it also shouldn't be tolerated by the US military. Our troops need money to pay for equipment in order to win wars. Military funding shouldn't be wasted on weirdos who want to mutilate their genitals to feel like the "right" gender.

WOW -- that is a pretty heavy post there! But, I do not disagree.
M-Bob

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this."

According to the Bible, eating shellfish is also an abomination. And according to the Bible, women who are caught in the act of adultery are to be stoned to death and witches should be killed (do not suffer a witch to live). Lying is also an abomination to God, but I'm not seeing any moral outrage or a public outcry from conservative Christians over that one. I guess it's easier for them to be complacent and overlook a sin that they would be guilty of committing themselves. Like the old saying goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." There's a lot of cherry picking scripture going on.

Not only is transgenderism an abomination to God, it also shouldn't be tolerated by the US military. Our troops need money to pay for equipment in order to win wars. Military funding shouldn't be wasted on weirdos who want to mutilate their genitals to feel like the "right" gender.

Talk about wasting military funding...

The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care

Yeah, it's better to waste military funding on spending millions of dollars on a medication that enables older men to have sex. I guess there are quite a few of military men lining up for that one.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Well I think if we're going to have a problem with the money spent on transgender people I have an idea where we can save even more money:
http://nypost.com/2017/07/26/us-military-blows-millions-a-year-on-viagra-for-its-troops/
there's a place where they could save even more money!
tulc(is just sayn')

Think that you are (way) off subject there. If needed Viagra should be available to all married couples weather in the military or not.

Do I partake -- grateful I don't need it (today).
66 still full of trix.
M-Bob

 

[tulc]

According to the Bible, eating shellfish is an abomination. It also says that women who are caught in the act of adultery should be stoned to death and not to suffer a witch to live. Lying is also an abomination to God, but I'm not seeing any kind of moral outrage or public outrage by conservative Christians over that one. I guess it's easier for them to be complacent and overlook a sin that they would be guilty of themselves. Like the old saying goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones."



Talk about wasting military funding on weirdos...

The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care

Yeah, it's better to waste military funding on spending millions of dollars on a medication that enables older men to have sex. I guess there are quite a few of military men lining up for that one.

I think that's a good point!
tulc(great minds thinking alike!)

 

[dogs4thewin]

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this."

Not only is transgenderism an abomination to God, it also shouldn't be tolerated by the US military. Our troops need money to pay for equipment in order to win wars. Military funding shouldn't be wasted on weirdos who want to mutilate their genitals to feel like the "right" gender.

I do not care about the Bible on this subject. I DO agree that transgenders should not serve in the military, but my reasons are PURELY secular, moreover I have no problem with gays serving openly.

 

[SnowyMacie]

There have always been transgender people in the military, and it hasn't caused any problems until people wanted them to stop serving.

 

[tulc]

Think that you are (way) off subject there. If needed Viagra should be available to all married couples weather in the military or not.
M-Bob

Not really, if the point is to save money why not start with the "big ticket" items first?
tulc(is going to need more coffee soon)

 

[dogs4thewin]

I think we could use all the help we can get in the military. If some future war happens and we lose because they had transgenders in their military and we didn't thats kind of a big deal.

There are many others reasons one may not be able to serve and I find some of them kind of crazy, BUT transgenders not serving I have no problem with due to the hate, but also other issues that come up with such people such as which latrine/head they will use and with which gender they will be housed.

 

[SnowyMacie]

According to the Old Testament, eating shellfish is also an abomination. And according to the Old Testament, women who are caught in the act of adultery are to be stoned to death and witches should be killed (do not suffer a witch to live). Lying is also an abomination to God, but I'm not seeing any moral outrage or public outrage from conservative Christians over that one. I guess it's easier for them to be complacent and overlook a sin that they would be guilty of committing themselves. Like the old saying goes, "Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones." There's a lot of cherry picking scripture going on.

A lot of scholarship I've read from all perspectives on that verse tend to accept that it's talking about crossdressing for deceitful purposes like soldiers dressing as women to enter a city undetected, pagan practices, and other such things common practices in the Ancient Near East, not transgender people.

 

[dogs4thewin]

There have always been transgender people in the military, and it hasn't caused any problems until people wanted them to stop serving.

How do you know? I am not meaning to argue I am asking how the issues in the above post have been handled along with how much issue the hate of transgenders has caused in units.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Well I think if we're going to have a problem with the money spent on transgender people I have an idea where we can save even more money:
http://nypost.com/2017/07/26/us-military-blows-millions-a-year-on-viagra-for-its-troops/
there's a place where they could save even more money!
tulc(is just sayn')

You beat me to it, tulc.

I think that's a good point!
tulc(great minds thinking alike!)

I'm not seeing any moral outrage and public outcry against pornography from conservative Christians either. Jesus did say that if a man looks at a woman to lust after her that he's already committed adultery with her in his heart. Like I said, there's a lot of cherry picking scripture going on.

 

[SnowyMacie]

How do you know? I am not meaning to argue I am asking how the issues in the above post have been handled along with how much issue the hate of transgenders has caused in units.

There have always been transgender Americans, or at least Americans with gender dysphoria.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

A lot of scholarship I've read from all perspectives on that verse tend to accept that it's talking about crossdressing for deceitful purposes like soldiers dressing as women to enter a city undetected, pagan practices, and other such things common practices in the Ancient Near East, not transgender people.

Thank you for that. It's much wiser to understand the actual context of that verse, instead of taking it out of context to justify objecting to transgender people being in military.

 

[dogs4thewin]

There have always been transgender Americans.

of course but the hate has always been around, as well and that can cause issues.

 

[SnowyMacie]

of course but the hate has always been around, as well and that can cause issues.

Yes, true.