Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[miknik5]

Hearing a voice is something that happens to many devout people. And since they all hear different things there is no real way to know whether or not you heard God. You may have convinced yourself that you have heard God, but so did all of those other people as well. If it was true there should be some way to test it. And one does not test it by saying "If it was true then Event A would show it" Since Event A could have occurred naturally. The way to test it is to find a test that would show it to be wrong.

What reasonable test would show the fact that you heard the "voice of God" is wrong?

What about if they weren't devout
What about if they were just going about their day and had no reason to hear GOD's VOICE and that given moment?

 

[miknik5]

Hearing a voice is something that happens to many devout people. And since they all hear different things there is no real way to know whether or not you heard God. You may have convinced yourself that you have heard God, but so did all of those other people as well. If it was true there should be some way to test it. And one does not test it by saying "If it was true then Event A would show it" Since Event A could have occurred naturally. The way to test it is to find a test that would show it to be wrong.

What reasonable test would show the fact that you heard the "voice of God" is wrong?

Nothing
There will be no test
There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever

There is nothing that anyone can do or say that can convince me otherwise

Nothing at all
HE left NO DOUBT at all who it is I heard from

 

[miknik5]

My only sorrow is that I don't hear HIM as profoundly as I did from the beginning

That is what I long fircmote than anything at all

But it appears to me that I have to walk by mature faith now

Not based on validation of my faith based on my lower carnal senses

That was an immature faith

 

[Subduction Zone]

What about if they weren't devout
What about if they were just going about their day and had no reason to hear GOD's VOICE and that given moment?

Meaningless either way. People here voices sometimes for all sorts of reasons. It is not proof of God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nothing
There will be no test
There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever

There is nothing that anyone can do or say that can convince me otherwise

Nothing at all
HE left NO DOUBT at all who it is I heard from

Scientists test their ideas constantly because they understand the frailties of the human mind.

And you lost the debate when you said that there is nothing that can convince you.

 

[miknik5]

Meaningless either way. People here voices sometimes for all sorts of reasons. It is not proof of God.

I don't
I can only speak about myself
But what I know and what HE has done in me, I know that people can hear the voice of a spirit and because this is truth, they had better make sure that the spirotbthey hear from is GOD and not another spirit of deception

 

[miknik5]

2 Thessalonians 2 is going to be a problem for many who do not know His VOICE from the liar

NOW

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't
I can only speak about myself
But what I know and what GWhas done in me, I know that people can hear the voice of a spirit and because this is truth, they had better make sure that the spirotbthey hear from is GOD and not another spirit of deception

You only heard a voice. You did nothing to confirm this voice, or even more important, you did not try to refute this voice.

When you see a room full of Napoleons what is your conclusion?

 

[Aman777]

Please

It's true and one of the Literal proofs of God since He did NOT say He created water and that is specifically correct. IF man had written the first 2 verses of Scripture, he would have said that in the beginning God created air, dust and water. The Holy Spirit is the Author or Scripture and MUST tell the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth, whether mortal men believe Him or Not. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

The atmosphere is contained by gravity.

And there you have a contradiction. The atmosphere could not exist until AFTER the Earth existed. Doesn't that verse put it before?

Good catch. Since the Earth wasn't made until the 3rd Day Gen 1:9 there was no Gravity to keep the air from escaping the Earth. Some falsely teach that God made the Earth BEFORE the first Day. Gen 1:1 Thanks for your scientific truth to include in my study. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

You must have missed my post regarding the truth that before GOD created a firmament the heavens was just a soupy dark empty mass with no order or boundaries

Please review the creation account to understand that GOD, by creating a firmament separated the waters (heavens) above from the waters (heavens) below

When HE created land below the firmament HE gathered the waters in areas so that dry land appeared with the gathered waters making up the varied bodies of waters such as oceans and streams and lakes and rivers

Not so. He put water into a container/firmament and dry ground appeared on top of the water showing that Adam's Earth was flat. The water was BELOW the container AND above it showing that it was truly in the "midst" or middle of water, like a submarine. Here's the real story:

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Adam's entire Earth was contained in a firmament in the middle of water. This reveals that it is totally self-sufficient and transportable to anywhere within the 3rd Heaven. When you have water above and below you, you are surrounded by water. That's the way water works. I know since my house has running water. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Sorry but gravity holds the atmosphere in place. Without an Earth there is no atmosphere.

The Bible is wrong again.

Not so. Read my last post ole scoffer. God Bless you

 

[Subduction Zone]

Good catch. Since the Earth wasn't made until the 3rd Day Gen 1:9 there was no Gravity to keep the air from escaping the Earth. Some falsely teach that God made the Earth BEFORE the first Day. Gen 1:1 Thanks for your scientific truth to include in my study. God Bless you

You simply mean your weak attempt to abuse science when you agree with the findings of scientists.

No one is convinced by your errors.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not so. Read my last post ole scoffer. God Bless you

Too bad that you do not even understand the Bible. If you did you would see your error.

Try again.

 

[miknik5]

You only heard a voice. You did nothing to confirm this voice, or even more important, you did not try to refute this voice.

When you see a room full of Napoleons what is your conclusion?

Know the true napoleon from the imposters

 

[miknik5]

It's true and one of the Literal proofs of God since He did NOT say He created water and that is specifically correct. IF man had written the first 2 verses of Scripture, he would have said that in the beginning God created air, dust and water. The Holy Spirit is the Author or Scripture and MUST tell the Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth, whether mortal men believe Him or Not. God Bless you

The HOLY SPIRIT speaks TRUTH and does not need for a man to correct TRUTH

Or suggest that he knows better than GOD what GOD said and meant by HIS SPIRIT

If there is an issue

It's in the man's understanding

Not GOD's

No one who believes the creation account has an issue understanding that GOD was OVER the face of the deep


And if there were any confusion, the WORD would have initially said, in the beginning GOD created the deep.
But HE didn't
HE just was amidst the background of the deep

The WORD of GOD begins:

In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth and the SPIRIT of GOD was over the waters

The waters of the substance from which HE would bring forth what is distinguished to man's eyes as the heavens/sky and the earth/ground/land from those same "waters"/"substance"

 

[miknik5]

Not so. He put water into a container/firmament and dry ground appeared on top of the water showing that Adam's Earth was flat. The water was BELOW the container AND above it showing that it was truly in the "midst" or middle of water, like a submarine. Here's the real story:

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Adam's entire Earth was contained in a firmament in the middle of water. This reveals that it is totally self-sufficient and transportable to anywhere within the 3rd Heaven. When you have water above and below you, you are surrounded by water. That's the way water works. I know since my house has running water. God Bless you

I'm going to take GOD's WORD as it is

And understanding that HE isn't a respector if persons, I am not going to imply somehow that HE is

 

[miknik5]

However, where did GOD remove "Adam" to once he sinned since you imply that HE made two sets of people

And what distinguishes one soecies of man from another species of man?

Is it GOD who created two men and divided them?


Or is it you?

 

[miknik5]

And salvation to any man, by the way, is not based on intelligence

 

[PsychoSarah]

I don't
I can only speak about myself
But what I know and what HE has done in me, I know that people can hear the voice of a spirit and because this is truth, they had better make sure that the spirotbthey hear from is GOD and not another spirit of deception

Then you will understand that your personal experiences and conviction are irrelevant in debates and are convincing to no one aside from yourself. People come here all the time claiming to have spiritual experiences for which they can provide absolutely no evidence. I personally will never put stock in anything that could so easily just be a lie or a figment of the imagination.