The evidence for Evolution.

[AV1611VET]

Religious view which cannot be supported by Scripture. God Bless you

God views death as an enemy.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

[Aman777]

God views death as an enemy.

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Amen, but we were speaking of when death began. The above verse tells when death will end. It came when God's Creation began, when God made the heaven and the earth without form, and Darkness/Death was upon everything God had created apart from Himself. Anything apart from God is subject to Death. When we are all together with God, in Heaven, death will be destroyed. Amen?

Gen 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

[dad]

Anything apart from God is subject to Death.

Angels?

 

[Aman777]

Angels?

Amen, since Satan drug many of them into chains of darkness.

Jde 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The Angels left Heaven, their own habitation and await Judgment as I posted.
Aman777 said: ↑
Anything apart from God is subject to Death.

Do you think Angels will be Judged? Of course they will. God Bless you

 

[dad]

Amen, since Satan drug many of them into chains of darkness.

Yes, all of which are still alive.

Anything apart from God is subject to Death.

Not what He made to be alive.

Do you think Angels will be Judged? Of course they will. God Bless you

That was not the issue. The issue was death. If Jesus gives eternal life we can't die. Angels made to be eternal cannot die. If you want to use a narrow definition of death as being separate from God, that won't work either, because most angels did not separate from God.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Angels?

Were they alive to begin with?

 

[AV1611VET]

Were they alive to begin with?

Of course.

They were around before the earth came into existence.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

 

[Speedwell]

Of course.

They were around before the earth came into existence.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Where is that cornerstone? Have you looked for it?

 

[Aman777]

Yes, all of which are still alive.

It's debatable to state that living in Hell is being "alive". I would call living in Hell, death.

*** Not what He made to be alive.

Amen, IF you are speaking of the Trinity, since Jesus gives life temporarily to all mankind, but very few are born again Spiritually by the Trinity.


Aman:>>Do you think Angels will be Judged? Of course they will.

*** That was not the issue. The issue was death. If Jesus gives eternal life we can't die. Angels made to be eternal cannot die. If you want to use a narrow definition of death as being separate from God, that won't work either, because most angels did not separate from God.

The question is, Do you think Angels will be Judged? Of course they will. Want Scripture?

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?

Your Scriptural illiteracy is showing again. More study is indicated. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Of course.

They were around before the earth came into existence.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The sons of God were NOT Angels but instead were prehistoric mankind because they were made of flesh and bones. The Lord, Himself states this:

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, (Heb-Adam) for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The sons of God were flesh and bones and left their bones all over the Earth. The Lord was saying that the fallen Adam was also flesh after he disobeyed, so He set time limits on Humanty's time on Earth. Read the verse before to see that the Lord was speaking of the marriage between Humans (descendants of Adam) and the sons of God (prehistoric mankind). God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Where is that cornerstone? Have you looked for it?

Jesus is the cornerstone. Eph 2:20 Amen?

 

[dad]

It's debatable to state that living in Hell is being "alive". I would call living in Hell, death.

The devil is still alive. They are not in hell yet are they? The lake of fire is the place reserved for the devil and his demons.

The point stands that they are still around.

Amen, IF you are speaking of the Trinity, since Jesus gives life temporarily to all mankind, but very few are born again Spiritually by the Trinity.

I was talking about people God made to be alive.

The question is, Do you think Angels will be Judged? Of course they will.

So? Why toss out random facts?

Angels are still around, even the bad ones. Regardless of any judgment in the future.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Of course.

They were around before the earth came into existence.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Yeah, but by definition, living organisms metabolize and reproduce independently. Do you think angels require food and have babies with each other?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah, but by definition, living organisms metabolize and reproduce independently. Do you think angels require food and have babies with each other?

Negative on having babies.

Affirmative on requiring food.

What do you think manna is?

Psalm 78:25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.

 

[Kylie]

Negative on having babies.

Affirmative on requiring food.

What do you think manna is?

Psalm 78:25 Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.

So angels have a fully functioning digestive system? Do they die if they are denied food?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Yes, all of which are still alive.


Not what He made to be alive.
That was not the issue. The issue was death. If Jesus gives eternal life we can't die. Angels made to be eternal cannot die. If you want to use a narrow definition of death as being separate from God, that won't work either, because most angels did not separate from God.

And yet the lake of fire is the second death..... not merely separation from God, since God is everywhere. They "will be no more" as pain and suffering will be no more. Nowhere in the vast universe will they exist, nor in any place where God is not since God exists everywhere. Angels can and will die by undergoing the second death, from which there will be no hope of resurrection. They simply do not undergo the first death which is reserved for all of mankind as he passes into the grave, from which we have the hope of a resurrection.

 

[mark kennedy]

So angels have a fully functioning digestive system? Do they die if they are denied food?

I was reading something about the virgins promised to martyrs in the Koran. Apparently, there may be some problem with the word, it could mean raisins. It doesn't sound like much of a reward but it made me think. Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well if you knew who I was you would ask me for water you could drink and never be thirsty again. We don't know much about angels although they are mentioned throughout the Scriptures. One thing is certain, they do not suffer from hunger.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

I was reading something about the virgins promised to martyrs in the Koran. Apparently, there may be some problem with the word, it could mean raisins. It doesn't sound like much of a reward but it made me think. Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well if you knew who I was you would ask me for water you could drink and never be thirsty again. We don't know much about angels although they are mentioned throughout the Scriptures. One thing is certain, they do not suffer from hunger.

And so man in his transformed state will not eat?

 

[mark kennedy]

And so man in his transformed state will not eat?

There is a wedding feast of the Bride of Christ, some tree that has fruit that is for the healing of the nations. Apart from that I would have no idea, but I'm sure, there will be no daily need for food.

 

[the iconoclast]

Evolution is not random. And sfs's job is in the sciences.

Hey hey @sfs

While we wait for @Speedwell to respond, lets include subs point here into our discussion.

When we consider randomness and "The Mathematics of Physics and Modern Engineering, Sokolnikov and Reheffer (1958)" - supplied by brother speedwell

In science, a random process is called random not because of the pattern or series of steps but by the outcome.

What do you think about what sub said here re random?

Also @Subduction Zone , what do you think about the definition of random process supplied by speewell, defined in that book i highlighted?

Full tet of "Mathematics Of Physics And Modern Engineering"

P622 random process defintion

"A process is random if it is impossible to predict the final state from the initial state (as, for example, in a toss of a coin or a die)" - 1958

Brother @Speedwell and brother @sfs. Subduction zone has joined our discussion. I could not have asked for things to go my way, they just seem to.

Cheers and God Bless ;,p