Noah's Ark

[GondwanaLand]

How did they get there, if the Flood was in 2348 BC?

Answer: there was no Flood in 2348 BC, nor ever. Not that hard.

 

[GondwanaLand]

The physics and mechanics of "floating" is why the ark was indeed able to float. Floating relieves stress by supporting the entire structure equally, it doesn't impose stress. Pressure on the ark from all exterior directions would tend to strengthen the structure by compression.

The physical limitations of wood simply do not allow that. Wood flexes - a lot. The longer your structure, the more pressure on it, the more you flex. For example, the one of the longest boats with a wooden structure and keel was the Wyoming. It measured in at 329 feet, and even had steel bracing to try to overcome the flexing and physical limitations of wood. Because of the length, the planking seperated so much that it constantly leaked water, to the point that it required constant, 24 hour a day pumping to remove the water. It could only operate close to the coast in calm water - any large waves let alone storms and the planking would spring even further. At the sight of even a hint of bad weather, it was forced to head straight to port. It sunk when it was caught in a storm and it foundered and broke up. The common length given for Noah's ark is 450 feet. It simply could not structurally have floated - it would have broken up or filled with water within days if not minutes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Answer: there was no Flood in 2348 BC,

No Egyptian pyramids in 2348 BC.

 

[VirOptimus]

No Egyptian pyramids in 2348 BC.

Really? When where they built?

 

[AV1611VET]

It simply could not structurally have floated - it would have broken up or filled with water within days if not minutes.

Can an axe head swim?

 

[AV1611VET]

Really? When where they built?

I don't know.

I just know when they weren't built.

 

[VirOptimus]

I don't know.

I just don't know when they weren't built.

....

Well, that was pointless.

 

[Goonie]

I don't know.

I just don't know when they weren't built.

We do about 2560bc. From all historical records.

 

[AV1611VET]

We do about 2560bc.

Give or take how many years?

 

[GondwanaLand]

No Egyptian pyramids in 2348 BC.

What does this assertion (false, by the way - the Fifth Dynasty of Egypt was going on straight through 2348 BC; and the pyramid of Djoser had already existed 300 or so years before that date, and the Great Pyramid complex had existed around 200 or so years before that date IIRC) have to do with the white cliffs of dover or incised meanders?

 

[GondwanaLand]

Can an axe head swim?

Non sequitur.

 

[AV1611VET]

What does this assertion (false, by the way - the Fifth Dynasty of Egypt was going on straight through 2348 BC; and the pyramid of Djoser had already existed 300 or so years before that date, and the Great Pyramid complex had existed around 200 or so years before that date IIRC) have to do with the white cliffs of dover or incised meanders?

Nothing ... why?

Who said it did?

 

[AV1611VET]

Non sequitur.

So God can make an iron axe head swim (not float ... swim), but He can't keep an ark made of gopher wood afloat?

Is that what you want us to believe?

 

[GondwanaLand]

Nothing ... why?

Who said it did?

I asked you how your pictures of the white cliffs of dover and incised meanders were evidence of the flood like you claimed. You responded with a nonsensical post about the pyramids. Try to keep up and at least pay attention to what you are responding to.

 

[GondwanaLand]

So God can make an iron axe head swim (not float ... swim), but He can't keep an ark made of gopher wood afloat?

Is that what you want us to believe?

What in the blue blazes are you even talking about?

 

[VirOptimus]

So God can make an iron axe head swim (not float ... swim), but He can't keep an ark made of gopher wood afloat?

Is that what you want us to believe?

1. Atheists dont belive in god(s) so they dont belive god(s) do anything.

2. Invoking magic doesnt help your case.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

I was curious about this mystical "gopher" wood. There is no other use of this Hebrew word in the Bible and no one really knows what it means. It seems there is no real consensus. Depending on translation, some texts use "gopher" (don't translate the Hebrew), others use cypress or cypress, or even just "timber." One suggestion is that "gofer" is supposed to be "kofer" (apparently G and K are similar in Hebrew) meaning "pitched," i.e. wood covered in pitch to make it water tight.

Genesis 6:14 So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out.

Gopher wood - Wikipedia

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I dont do your homework, you claim it, you show the math.

No, you prove I'm wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

I asked you how your pictures of the white cliffs of dover and incised meanders were evidence of the flood like you claimed. You responded with a nonsensical post about the pyramids.

Where?

 

[lesliedellow]

What in the blue blazes are you even talking about?

There is a passage in the Bible where the prophet Elijah causes an iron axe head to float.