If you will not continue in dialog - it is not as if it's something we haven't seen here time and time again.
No, I am more than willing to continue dialog, but once I am belittled and such things, then I take it that my time is done with said people.
You say that they prove something. I have simply asked you to show me how so.
I have in the past posts proved such. However, forgive me for assuming you saw or followed the entire thread.
I'm simply pointing out what you are doing and you obviously don't have an answer for it.
Simply and aggressively (not in a loving manner, so it seemed). Again, I did provide answers but it was directed toward others and I assumed you followed through the entire thread since you chimed in on the discussion with me.
The evidence I bring you:
Unconditional Election = God chose from eternity to save certain people, not based upon any foreseen virtue, faith, or anticipated acceptance of the Gospel. God chose to extend mercy to those He has specifically chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive wrath and damnation.
Bible Responses
Luke 13:3—“I tell you, no; but
unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
John 3:16—“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
John 8:24—“Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for
if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Acts 10:34-35—“Then Peter opened his mouth and said: ‘In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation
whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.’”
Romans 2:5-11—“God…will render to each one
according to his deeds: eternal life to those who by patient
continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace
to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For there is no partiality with God.”
1 Peter 1:17—“And if you call on the Father, who
without partiality judges according to
each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear.”
Revelation 22:17—“
Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.”
Limited Atonement = Christ died only for those whom God specifically pre-decided to save—the elect—but not for any others.
Bible Responses
1 Timothy 2:3-4—“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
1 Timothy 2:5-6—“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself
a ransom for all.”
Titus 2:11-12—“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared
to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.”
1 John 2:2—“And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also
for the whole world.”
John 3:17—“For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that
the world through Him might be saved.”
2 Peter 3:9—“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,
not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”
Acts 10:34—“God shows
no partiality.”
Romans 2:11—“For there is
no partiality with God.”
Irresistible Grace = God’s saving grace is applied to those whom He has determined to save (the elect), overcoming their resistance to the call of the Gospel, bringing them to a saving faith. This means that when God sovereignly purposes to save someone, that individual certainly will be saved (even against his will if necessary). This purposeful influence of God’s Holy Spirit, Who creates faith within the individual, cannot be resisted.
Bible Responses
Deuteronomy 30:19—“I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore
choose life.”
Joshua 24:15—“
Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house,
we will serve the LORD.”
Luke 7:30—“But the Pharisees and lawyers
rejected the will of God for themselves, not having been baptized by him.”
John 12:42-43—“Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess Him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue; for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.”
Acts 7:51—“You stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always
resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.”
Acts 13:46—“Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, ‘It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but
since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.’”
Perseverance of the Saints = Since God is sovereign and His will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with Himself will continue in faith until the end. They cannot be eternally lost.
Bible Responses
Galatians 5:4—“You [Christians] have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law;
you have fallen from grace.”
2 Peter 2:20-22—“For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are
again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: ‘A dog returns to his own vomit,’ and, ‘a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.’”
Hebrews 4:11—“Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest,
lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.”
Hebrews 6:4-6—“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if
they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.”
Hebrews 10:38-39—“‘Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone
draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.’ But we are not of those who
draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.”
James 5:19-20—“Brethren, if anyone among you
wanders from the truth, and someone
turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will
save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.”
Revelation 2:5—“Remember therefore
from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and
remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.”
Revelation 3:5—“He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will
not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.”
Revelation 22:19—“If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall
take away his part from the Book of Life.”
I'll also say that God does nothing that He doesn't know the outcome of before He does it. If there is one thing that God is not it's unwise in that way.
