I think that as long as it is between two consenting adults, it's not my buisness one way or the other.
This wasn't between two consenting adults.
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I think that as long as it is between two consenting adults, it's not my buisness one way or the other.
It wasn't? The girl in the article is 18. The father isn't disclosed, but I haven't read any information about this being a case of statutory rape.This wasn't between two consenting adults.
Right. Although i don't know why you put scare quotes around it. Hey do you suppose private schools can discriminate against special needs children if they take funds for the government in the form of vouchers?First, yes there is a wide range of "discrimination" available to private schools that take some public funding.
Right a double standard since public education takes every student that walks in the door. In this case, the pregnant female would be protected and assisted in public education since they have school nurses and counselors on site. In the private she was singled out. That is the difference. Kind of like a Scarlett Letter.If they can take public funding at all, the discrimination that makes them "private" is obviously permitted.
What?There are only certain limited types of discrimination that are prohibited, and prohibition of volitional sexual activity is not one of them.
So now you are an apologist for double standards. Do you suppose private educators are required to have on-site medical staff like public education? How bout busing? Food programs for the poor? After school programs for students from working families? In effect until 6pm in my school. Where parents can pick their children up. Any of that?Nor is there any law implying that everything not illegal must be permitted.
Pick up one end of the stick you pick up the other.This is the problem that I have with the voucher system - not that I have an taxpayer funds supporting private schools in itself, but that this funding, even indirect funding through vouchers, will always have strings attached, that will increase government control over private education. There is no free lunch.
Hey do you suppose private schools can discriminate against special needs children if they take funds for the government in the form of vouchers?
dmmesdale said:So now you are an apologist for double standards.
dmmesdale said:Do you suppose private educators are required to have on-site medical staff like public education? How bout busing?
It would for me. I seen plenty of girls pregnant. When I was in high school. I wouldn't want to be in their situation. So I would have did anything to prevent being pregnant at the time. Years later and no kids. Different story.This seems like a bizarre thought process. I would think that seeing someone who is pregnant would result in girls thinking "I best not have sex or I could end up pregnant like her".
So keep them in public education which takes every student who comes to their doors.They may not have the necessary resources for special needs children.
You mean privileged students from families who do not want their children mixing with kids from the hood or special needs children because it slows everybody down.Doesn't mean they can't be good schools for other students...
Then don't take the public money to defund public education. All that does is further shaft the students from poor families. Fewer teachers and larger class sizes. Basically making public education a dumping ground.Double standards are kind of the whole point of private education. There would little point of having private schools if they had to operate the same way as public schools.
I can't see her sending her children to the same school.I think the impact that having that child has on her life will be a pretty significant condesuence of her actions. I wonder when she tells this tale of exclusion to her son if he will be eager to be part of an organization that saw the conception of his life worthy of punishment.
Right. Although i don't know why you put scare quotes around it. Hey do you suppose private schools can discriminate against special needs children if they take funds for the government in the form of vouchers?
Right a double standard since public education takes every student that walks in the door. In this case, the pregnant female would be protected and assisted in public education since they have school nurses at the schools. In the private she was singled out. That is the difference. Kind of like a Scarlett Letter.
What? So now you are an apologist for double standards. Do you suppose private educators are required to have on-site medical staff like public education? How bout busing?
They have a right to an education in the United States. It may be a matter of funding since public schools are mostly funded thru property and state taxes. (95% my state.) I don't know why anybody would want to further defund public education. From Wiki.Yes, actually, they can. Not every school in even a public school system is necessarily required to provide for every special needs situation.
Not if all of society appears to make accommodation for it. What consequences do the other girls see? Having been the father of both a boy and a girl and working with many teenagers, my observation is that their effective perception of consequences at that age goes no farther than their line of sight.
Someone who is pregnant as a teenager? Maybe it is just me but I don't think most of these girls really want to be unwed mothers and are being held back by the fact that they might not get to go to graduation ceremony.
What they see is that "the world will accommodate me."
That totally misses the point. It is some parents who would have problems with pregnant teens. That was the context which was ignored. It normalizes the condition.Why would someones daughter get pregnant simply by being around another girl who got pregnant?
Hope so.It seems to me it would have the opposite effect?
A delayed punishment also removed from some position even after admitting and doing right under the circumstances. In education, they have to deal with paying parents. They are vocal and complain. They should have never barred her.Besides it is not like she is being kicked out of the school, she is simply not allowed to go to prom.
It would for me. I seen plenty of girls pregnant. When I was in high school. I wouldn't want to be in their situation. So I would have did anything to prevent being pregnant at the time. Years later and no kids. Different story.
That totally misses the point. It is some parents who would have problems with pregnant teens.
That was the context which was ignored. It normalizes the condition.
Hope so. A delayed punishment also removed from some position even after admitting and doing right under the circumstances. In education, they have to deal with paying parents. They are vocal and complain.
Private education is for profit.Then those parents can suck it up and drive on.
Are you in business? Later.I don't see punishing a young girl because someone else has hang ups being a good model.