Hi all. The video is roughly 6 minutes long. The title is fairly self-explanatory. I look forward to hearing what others think.
Revelation 13:16Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The problem is that the mark is only 1 of 3 different things that can identify someone as belonging to the beast so there is no one certain thing. I don't believe mark in the hand of forehead is a literal piece of technology. Those things simply represent what you believe in and work for.
Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
The problem is that the mark is only 1 of 3 different things that can identify someone as belonging to the beast so there is no one certain thing. I don't believe mark in the hand of forehead is a literal piece of technology. Those things simply represent what you believe in and work for.
keyword there being all of course.
I meant in context to what he was saying, that there would be other things other than the mark for those who worship the beast.The context suggests that "all" doesn't literally mean every single person in existence, but rather is an exaggeration meant to indicate most. There's the 144k who don't take it.
And, of course, the warning not to take it would be pointless if everyone takes it anyway.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
keyword there being all of course. (all who accept the mark, anyway)
Not sure exactly if we're being honest. But the first verse is clear that you will receive a mark if you worship the beast.It has other meanings as well. How do you explain the next verse then which gives three different options.
I meant in context to what he was saying, that there would be other things other than the mark for those who worship the beast.
I didn't mean to imply that everyone will take the mark, sorry for the confusion.
But the first verse is clear that you will receive a mark if you worship the beast.
Not sure exactly if we're being honest. But the first verse is clear that you will receive a mark if you worship the beast.
Perhaps 3 "different types"(for lack of a better word) of marks, all equally the same? For example, one mark saying 666, the other having the name, the other a symbol?
I'm not sure.
Ah ok, agree with the word all referring to all different sorts of people.I think it's clear that "all" taking the mark means "all types" not each individual person which is why it lists the small and the great. However, I don't think all of them get the mark in the hand OR the forehead. That alone proves one might get a mark in the forehead while another in the hand. Not all are marked the same way which brings in verse 17 that there are other things than the mark itself
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
I think it's clear that "all" taking the mark means "all types" not each individual person which is why it lists the small and the great. However, I don't think all of them get the mark in the hand OR the forehead. That alone proves one might get a mark in the forehead while another in the hand. Not all are marked the same way which brings in verse 17 that there are other things than the mark itself
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Ah ok, agree with the word all referring to all different sorts of people.
However the verse is still saying that they will receive some sort of mark in their right hand or forehead... just that maybe the mark might look different on one than the other?
I think we agree on that too? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something that you're saying.
I don't believe mark in the hand of forehead is a literal piece of technology. Those things simply represent what you believe in and work for.
I also think this. I think the most common application will be the right hand, because the right hand makes the most sense for mass inclusion. Most people in the world are right handed and the hand is the most accessible for swiping.
I agree. What I note is that the seal of God is in the forehead: Revelation 7:3, Revelation 9:4: but the mark of the beast is in both the forehead and right hand. Like, the seal of God is belief, but no works; while the mark of the beast is, belief combined with works.
So one who is saved does not need to prepare to refuse the mark, because they already will.
Eh, I don't find this convincing and even you get into how the placement will really not matter.
Tech already is closer to not needing a chip to be in any certain place but can be scanned no matter where it is.