Where in Revelation is a Rapture Mentioned?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
The Tribulation will not be a time when the sinners will turn to God....
[Revelation 9 -- [5th trumpet/first woe 5 months of a striking pain upon those who have not the seal of God in their foreheads..] --- [6th trumpet/second woe; 1/3 of humanity killed during the second woe]
Revelation 9:20
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

And some years later during the 7th vial---
Revelation 16:20
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Not So! Many will be saved.

You are arguing with the Bible my friend, not me!

7:9-10 ......
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, domed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb."

I see what YOU say but the Bible does not agree with you.

Rev. 9:20 tells us that after all these judgements the rest of the men “represented not.” This NOT the Church but is those who rejected Christ and missed the Rapture. God’s object in sending these judgements were not only to punish but also to call Israel to repentance. The rest of the men are said to worship “idols.”

Rev. 16:20......YES it is MEN but it is not he church. Everyone who kisses the Rapture will go through the judgments of God whether they are saved are not. Most of The ones who come to Christ and reject the Mark of the Beast will be myrtered, and that is who is seen in 16:20.
 
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Daniel 7:23-25 is plainly a prophecy about the end times.
God's Holy people are on earth then and they confront the Anti-Christ. Saying that God's holy Saints are not the church, [assembly, congregation, ekkelasia, etc] shows the depth of deception you are in.

This idea is a complete misinterpretation of the main message of the Bible.
God did choose Israel, but gentiles of faith were always able to join them. Jesus came to give the Jews their last chance and when they rejected Him, now it is people from every tribe, race, nation and language, who will inherit the Kingdom. Revelation 5:9-10

Third time: this idea is not supported by scripture.
Revelation 12:6-17 describes what happens to all the Christians, who divide into two groups, as Daniel 11:32 describes.
We will all be living in the holy Land by that time; NOT in heaven, as you imagine, and when the Anti-Christ comes, Zechariah 14:1-2, it will be those who remain firm in their faith, who will be taken to a place of safety on earth for the 1260 days until Jesus Returns.

THE RAPTURE TO HEAVEN OF LIVING CHRISTIANS IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE.

Well, I wish you well friend. As I do not have the patience to keep posting the same thing for you over and over I am going to let you be.

It has been very clear that there is nothing that I can say that you will accept. I feel bad for you and I do hope that the light bulb will go off for you and you would begin to see how mixed up and false your theology is.

God bless and be well.

Major.....out!
 
Upvote 0

Riberra

Well-Known Member
Jan 8, 2014
5,098
594
✟90,164.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Not So! Many will be saved.

You are arguing with the Bible my friend, not me!

7:9-10 ......
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, domed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb."
Can you show us a Bible verse saying that they were raptured to Heaven while they were still alive ?They are all wearing the same white clothes that those who were slain for the word of God of the 5th seal[Revelation 6:9-11 ...the SOULS of the dead martyrs since Jesus have ascended to Heaven
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
The Tribulation will not be a time when the sinners will turn to God....
Thus your theory that the SAINTS refers to NEW believers that will turn to God during the tribulation falls flat on your face.
There will be two kind of Christians during those time ,those that will apostatize long before the imposition of the mark by the Beast and the Christians who will remain faithful to death. That is the way God have decided that the selection of true Christians will be made during the tribulation , no Christians will be removed to Heaven.

[Revelation 9 -- [5th trumpet/first woe 5 months of a striking pain upon those who have not the seal of God in their foreheads..] five months later --- [6th trumpet/second woe; 1/3 of humanity will be killed by the second woe]
Revelation 9:20
20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

And some years later during the 7th vial---
Revelation 16:20
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail;for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

It is all yours my friend. I do not have the energy or will power to keep telling you such simple Bible truths over and over only to have you come up with more of the same.

Be well and please study more.
 
Upvote 0

Riberra

Well-Known Member
Jan 8, 2014
5,098
594
✟90,164.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
It is all yours my friend. I do not have the energy or will power to keep telling you such simple Bible truths over and over only to have you come up with more of the same.

Be well and please study more.
You should study
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 and pay attention to verse 15...No resurrection and no rapture to meet Jesus in the AIR until His Coming.
Which is totally opposite to the claim of those saying that this could happen at any time.

1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

keras

Writer of studies on Bible prophecy
Feb 7, 2013
13,756
2,494
82
Thames, New Zealand
Visit site
✟294,680.00
Country
New Zealand
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Well, I wish you well friend. As I do not have the patience to keep posting the same thing for you over and over I am going to let you be.
It has been very clear that there is nothing that I can say that you will accept. I feel bad for you and I do hope that the light bulb will go off for you and you would begin to see how mixed up and false your theology is.
God bless and be well.

Major.....out!
Riberra, we have seen off Straightshot and Psalms 3057, now Major1 has found that the rapture theory simply does not have any acceptable scriptural proof.

What I hope and pray for all who have been fooled by the idea of a rapture, is that the light bulb will go on for them and they will realize the truth of what will happen. God does plan for the good of His people and we can expect amazing blessings, as we fulfil our destiny on earth.
 
Upvote 0

Yahu_

Active Member
Nov 16, 2016
218
50
60
Atlanta, Ga
✟18,738.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Celibate
Daniel 7:23-25 is plainly a prophecy about the end times.
God's Holy people are on earth then and they confront the Anti-Christ. Saying that God's holy Saints are not the church, [assembly, congregation, ekkelasia, etc] shows the depth of deception you are in.

Well you are assuming that no one gets saved during the tribulation. There will be His people on earth even if there is a pre-trib rapture because many will believe because of the rapture and prophecy coming true. Besides that, any in Israel that still hold to the old covenant would have been excluded from a pre-trib rapture and Revelation mainly deals with Israel as a nation, not the church.

So it is equally evident that you could be in deception.
 
Upvote 0

keras

Writer of studies on Bible prophecy
Feb 7, 2013
13,756
2,494
82
Thames, New Zealand
Visit site
✟294,680.00
Country
New Zealand
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Well you are assuming that no one gets saved during the tribulation. There will be His people on earth even if there is a pre-trib rapture because many will believe because of the rapture and prophecy coming true.
Maybe a few will change, but from Revelation 16:11, it won't be very many.
Revelation mainly deals with Israel as a nation, not the church.
This is quite incorrect, you need to read and understand Ephesians 2:11-18, Galatians 3:26-29, etc, and get the truth of what Jesus came to do on earth. Revelation 12:6-17 is plainly to do with Christian people, bought by His blood. Revelation 5:9-10
 
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Well you are assuming that no one gets saved during the tribulation. There will be His people on earth even if there is a pre-trib rapture because many will believe because of the rapture and prophecy coming true. Besides that, any in Israel that still hold to the old covenant would have been excluded from a pre-trib rapture and Revelation mainly deals with Israel as a nation, not the church.

So it is equally evident that you could be in deception.

I agree with that.

We know for sure that 144,002 will be saved. TWO witnesses and 144,00 Jewish men.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Yahu_

Active Member
Nov 16, 2016
218
50
60
Atlanta, Ga
✟18,738.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Celibate
Maybe a few will change, but from Revelation 16:11, it won't be very many.

This is quite incorrect, you need to read and understand Ephesians 2:11-18, Galatians 3:26-29, etc, and get the truth of what Jesus came to do on earth. Revelation 12:6-17 is plainly to do with Christian people, bought by His blood. Revelation 5:9-10
The verses you posted do not support your position.

As to not being many, well there was a great multitude of martyrs under the alter that are still un-resurrected during the tribulation. They all would have been saved during the tribulation because the rest of the church is already there with John. John even confused a fellow resurrected Christian with an angel.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Major1
Upvote 0

Riberra

Well-Known Member
Jan 8, 2014
5,098
594
✟90,164.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
.

We know for sure that 144,002 will be saved. TWO witnesses and 144,00 Jewish men.
The 144,000 are effectively the ONLY ones cited in the Bible as being the FIRST FRUITS REDEEMED among men... Clearly that verse means that NO other Humans before the 144,000 who will be sealed sometime before the trumpets judgments Revelation 7 are considered the FIRST FRUITS REDEEMED among men from the earth....

Revelation 14:1-5
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
The verses you posted do not support your position.

As to not being many, well there was a great multitude of martyrs under the alter that are still un-resurrected during the tribulation. They all would have been saved during the tribulation because the rest of the church is already there with John. John even confused a fellow resurrected Christian with an angel.

You are correct my friend and the person you are posting has been told that about 7 or 8 times.
 
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Well you are assuming that no one gets saved during the tribulation. There will be His people on earth even if there is a pre-trib rapture because many will believe because of the rapture and prophecy coming true. Besides that, any in Israel that still hold to the old covenant would have been excluded from a pre-trib rapture and Revelation mainly deals with Israel as a nation, not the church.

So it is equally evident that you could be in deception.

Correct! It is a blessing to see someone who can correctly divide and understand the Word of God.
 
Upvote 0

Major1

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2016
10,551
2,837
Deland, Florida
✟203,785.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Riberra, we have seen off Straightshot and Psalms 3057, now Major1 has found that the rapture theory simply does not have any acceptable scriptural proof.

What I hope and pray for all who have been fooled by the idea of a rapture, is that the light bulb will go on for them and they will realize the truth of what will happen. God does plan for the good of His people and we can expect amazing blessings, as we fulfil our destiny on earth.

This is a complete false hood. IT has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rapture not being Scriptural. I for one have not responded to your quotes because they are depressing and I find it heart breaking to see you so deceived and wrong in your Bible understanding.

I tend not to spend to much time with those who reject the Word of God and I have given the Word of God to you over and over and over. Your agenda is to reject Bible truth and instead promote your own personal agenda and I just am not going to help you.

I will be glad to discuss the Bible, Rapture, or Eschatology with anyone who asks and wants to know, BUT there comes a point where casting pearls before swine is not profitable and I have reached that point with you and your associate.

Proverbs 20:3.........
"It is to one’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel.".

Happy New Year and may the Lord bless you and keep you safe.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

DennisTate

Newbie
Site Supporter
Mar 31, 2012
10,742
1,665
Nova Scotia, Canada
Visit site
✟379,894.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
CA-Conservatives
I would like someone to please show me where a rapture is mentioned in Revelation since the only thing I see mentioned in Revelation are resurrections.

Where does it say there's a rapture if the 2nd advent, as described in the Olivet discourse, is the 2nd resurrection, where that generation, and those standing there at the time of the Olivet discourse, taste death after witnessing Christ coming into his kingdom, which is the New Yah-ru-Shalem?

If the Olivet discourse advent which is the gathering of the elect and the so-called 2nd return of Christ is the 2nd resurrection, when Christ supposedly returns to earth, how does anyone justify a rapture at the "1st resurrection" if there's no advent, no return of Christ to earth until the 2nd resurrection?

Food for thought

A falling away has definitely begun.

I myself could never see the logic for a Rapture either
until I read a particular near death experience account by a
Dr. Richard Eby.

Since reading this.... I now take the idea of a Rapture quite seriously.


Dr. Richard Eby....."He paused as though the joy of that thought had overwhelmed him for the moment.

"My Father assures me that the time is yet a little while, but very little. Soon he will call those already in paradise to surround me as we descend from this third heaven to the first heaven around the Earth. The souls of all my saints will be instantly clothed in their new resurrection bodies, as will the living saints on Earth who rise to us in the glory cloud! At the sounding trumpet they all receive new bodies and rise to meet us in the air. We return as my body to my throne room with the Father. Now do you understand why I called this place a temporary abiding place? Do you grasp what it will mean to be one with me and the Father in your incorruptible bodies? My book states that I assumed mankind's sin so you "might be made the righteousness of God' in me!"

I can clearly recall how Jesus' voice paused at this moment. He was savoring an anticipation too intense and private to be revealed. Was he pre-living that moment at which he would enjoy the victory which his Father would give him as the eternal reward for his own long-suffering? His own sting of death would be swallowed up, and he would be the omniscient Head of a completed and compliant body for whom he had shed his blood on a terrible cross. He would reign as KING of the Jews after these days of grace. Then his thoughts returned to me.

"My son, when that time has come, my Father will call to me. The applause of the heavenly hosts will be deafening; they too have been awaiting that day, ever since they announced my birth to the shepherds at Bethlehem so long ago. Scoffers will gaze with fear and wonder as my angelic hosts watch me fulfill my promise to my earthly body of believers at my soon return to Earth." (near-death .com)

IF... what Dr. Richard Eby reports being shown was indeed inspired by the Holy Spirit then.......
the Rapture....... fits in just before the Tribulation.........
and would I supposed correspond with Isaiah 66:5.6... where the anti-Christ fellow seems to take over in the rebuilt Jerusalem Third Temple complex?????

This anti-Christ fellow seems to be in the Temple for a specific number of months.....then Messiah Yeshua - Jesus returns to the earth and fulfills Zechariah 14........ and kicks the bad guy out of the temple.
 
Upvote 0

Yahu_

Active Member
Nov 16, 2016
218
50
60
Atlanta, Ga
✟18,738.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Celibate
Correct! It is a blessing to see someone who can correctly divide and understand the Word of God.
It isn't hard. My mom is a major prophecy author. Revelation has been a topic in the family most of my life. I helped type set her 1st Revelation book as a teen. I'm 53 now. She sees the judgments as physical events and comes at it from her background as a geologist instead of spiritualizing everything.

As a matter of fact, she is revising her book 'Rightly Dividing the Book of Revelation' (by J.E. Becker) now to put out a 2nd edition.

Now we don't agree on all aspects of Revelation but that is because of my area of specialization is so different from hers. My area of study has always been the OT paganism in opposition to Yah and Israel so I see different symbolism pertaining to those principalities. For example I don't equate the 'harlot' as a system or entity like the RCC but as a principality, specifically the one worshiped by the Canaanites by the title Ashtoreth/Astarte who equates to the Roman goddess Diana Luciferah of Ephesus. The original queen Jezebel was the high priestess of that 'goddess' as well as a witch.

My perspective was shaped by my personal experiences battling modern goddess worship witchcraft and the things I learned in those conflicts. I knew a modern day high priestess of Ashtoreth that I met in 1985. She was to be the next worldwide high priestess of Ashtoreth. I spent many years researching the biblical references to account for the things I learned 1st hand so I interpret Revelation through that knowledge.
 
Upvote 0

Riberra

Well-Known Member
Jan 8, 2014
5,098
594
✟90,164.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
My area of study has always been the OT paganism in opposition to Yah and Israel so I see different symbolism pertaining to those principalities. For example I don't equate the 'harlot' as a system or entity like the RCC but as a principality, specifically the one worshiped by the Canaanites by the title Ashtoreth/Astarte who equates to the Roman goddess Diana Luciferah of Ephesus. The original queen Jezebel was the high priestess of that 'goddess' as well as a witch.

My perspective was shaped by my personal experiences battling modern goddess worship witchcraft and the things I learned in those conflicts. I knew a modern day high priestess of Ashtoreth that I met in 1985. She was to be the next worldwide high priestess of Ashtoreth. I spent many years researching the biblical references to account for the things I learned 1st hand so I interpret Revelation through that knowledge.
In other words ,you are studying the Biblical Revelation Prophecies through the luciferian point of view ....Do you know that the pre-tribulation rapture to heaven doctrine came from a vision .

Let see if you can identify the obvious lies and let see if you can identify who is the entity who is behind that 'vision'.
Margaret Macdonald's Original Pretribulation Vision

APPENDIX A: MARGARET MACDONALD'S ACCOUNT

[This is Margaret Macdonald's handwritten account of her 1830 Pre-Trib revelation, as included in Robert Norton's Memoirs of James & George Macdonald of Port-Glasgow (1840), pp. 171-176. The italicized portions represent her account as it appears in shorter form in Norton's The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets; In the Catholic Apostolic Church (1861), pp 15-18.]

"It was first the awful state of the land that was pressed upon me.(1) I saw the blindness and infatuation of the people to be very great. I felt the cry of Liberty just to be the hiss of the serpent, to drown them in perdition. It was just `no God.' I repeated the words, Now there is distress of nations, with perplexity, the seas and the waves roaring, men's hearts failing them for fear - now look out for the sign of the Son of man. Here I was made to stop and cry out, 0 it is not known what the sign of the Son of man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man. even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people. Many passages were revealed, in a light in which I had not before seen them. I repeated, `Now is the kingdom of Heaven like unto ten virgins, who went forth to meet the Bridegroom, five wise and five foolish; they that were foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them; but they that were wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.' 'But be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is; and be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.' This was the oil the wise virgins took in their vessels - this is the light to be kept burning - the light of God - that we may discern that which cometh not with observation to the natural eye. Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. 'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air. I saw that we must be in the Spirit, that we might see spiritual things. John was in the Spirit, when he saw a throne set in Heaven. - But I saw that the glory of the ministration of the Spirit had not been known. I repeated frequently, but the spiritual temple must and shall be reared, and the fullness of Christ be poured into his body, and then shall we be caught up to meet him. Oh none will be counted worthy of this calling but his body, which is the church, and which must be a candlestick all of gold. I often said, Oh the glorious inbreaking of God which is now about to burst on this earth; Oh the glorious temple which is now about to be reared, the bride adorned for her husband; and Oh what a holy, holy bride she must be, to be prepared for such a glorious bridegroom. I said, Now shall the people of God have to do with realities - now shall the glorious mystery of God in our nature be known - now shall it be known what it is for man to be glorified. I felt that the revelation of Jesus Christ had yet to be opened up - it is not knowledge about God that it contains, but it is an entering into God - I saw that there was a glorious breaking in of God to be. I feIt as Elijah surrounded with chariots of fire. I saw as it were, the spiritual temple reared, and the Head Stone brought forth with shoutings of grace, grace, unto it. It was a glorious light above the brightness of the sun, that shone round about me. I felt that those who were filled with the spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing - so that two shall be in one bed, the one taken and the other left, because the one has the light of God within while the other cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation, surrounded by nets and entanglements, about to be tried, and many about to be deceived and fall. Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that if it were possible the very elect will be deceived. - This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will be shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - But the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth. and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - or it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth and an imitation for every work of the Spirit. The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will be outward trial too, but `tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out. The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit - have the light of God in you, that you may detect Satan - be full of eyes within - be clay in the hands of the potter - submit to be filled, filled with God This will build the temple. It is not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit saith the Lord. This will fit us to enter into the marriage supper of the lamb. I saw It to be the will of God that all should be filled. But what hindered the real life of God from being received by his people, was their turning from Jesus. who is the way to the Father. They were not entering in by the door. For he is faithful who hath said, by me if any man enter in he shall find pasture. They were passing the cross, through which every drop of the Spirit of God flows to us. All power that comes not through the blood of Christ is not of God. When I say, they are looking from the cross, I feel that there is much in it - they turn from the blood of the Lamb, by which we overcome, and in which our robes are washed and made white. There are low views of God's holiness, and ceasing to condemn sin in the flesh, and a looking from him who humbled himself, and made himself of no reputation. Oh! it is needed, much needed at present, a leading back to the cross, I saw that night, and often since, that there will be an outpouring of the Spirit on the body, such as has not been, a baptism of fire, that all the dross may be put away. Oh there must and will be such an indwelling of the living God as has not been - the servants of God sealed in their foreheads - great conformity to Jesus - his holy holy image seen in his people just the bride made comely, by his comeliness put upon her. This is what we are at present made to pray much for, that speedily we may all be made ready to meet our Lord in the air - and it will be. Jesus wants his bride. His desire is toward us. He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry. Amen and Amen. Even so come Lord Jesus."
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

keras

Writer of studies on Bible prophecy
Feb 7, 2013
13,756
2,494
82
Thames, New Zealand
Visit site
✟294,680.00
Country
New Zealand
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
This is a complete false hood. IT has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rapture not being Scriptural. I for one have not responded to your quotes because they are depressing and I find it heart breaking to see you so deceived and wrong in your Bible understanding.
I said: Nobody has given any real proof that God will take living people to heaven.
The 'rapture theory' is built on supposition, inferences, and wishful thinking. There is no scripture anywhere that supports such a presumptuous idea.
What I do understand from careful study of all the Prophetic Word, is that the Lord will protect His people during His terrible Day of wrath and then every righteous Christian believer will be gathered into the holy Land. This outcome is far better than going to heaven; to do what?
No, we have work to do here and doing it is our great privilege, honor and the fulfilment of our destiny.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Postvieww
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Riberra

Well-Known Member
Jan 8, 2014
5,098
594
✟90,164.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I myself could never see the logic for a Rapture either
until I read a particular near death experience account by a
Dr. Richard Eby.

Since reading this.... I now take the idea of a Rapture quite seriously.




IF... what Dr. Richard Eby reports being shown was indeed inspired by the Holy Spirit then.......
the Rapture....... fits in just before the Tribulation.........

and would I supposed correspond with Isaiah 66:5.6...
Isaiah 66:5-6 fits with the Coming of Jesus in Glory to defeats His enemies a the End of the Tribulation.
Revelation 19:11-21 and Matthew 24:29-31
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: DennisTate
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.