Hell is a 404

[Hillsage]

There are some problems I encounter, but I find it strange that people want to damn me to hell because I think that God is love and actually does love people.

1PE 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:...14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Der Alte]

Hebrews 10:28 shows some have died without mercy.

Hebrews 10:28-31 also speaks about a fate worse than death.

(28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
(30) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
(31) It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.​

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Lazarus Short]

Hebrews 10:28 shows some have died without mercy.

Note that they died without mercy in the here-and-now world. God's Law never stipulated punishment after the death-without-mercy. Even when He threatened to punish seven times more, God never hinted that the punishments would be anywhere but in the real world.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Lazarus Short]

The lake of fire is for damnation...condemned.
John 5 shows two types of still coming large
group resurrections. One type of resurrection is
to life, the other to damnation. Mark 3:29 refers to
eternal damnation.

Well, I read John 5 and Mark 3:29 in an interlinear version, and I don't get "damnation" out of either.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Mark 9 as to their worm and hell has to do with entering into the kingdom.

Flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God. The kingdom time comes a bit ahead of the new earth.
Just as in Matthew 25 the wicked go to everlasting punishment.


It is about entering into life/the kingdom of God, or going to hell fire.

The carnal mind of fallen man likes this dualism, but God and His creation are not dualistic: God - Heaven - Angels - Earth - Man - other creatures. The Cosmos is not a battleground between YHVH and Satan, with us as a prey between them - it all belongs to God, who owns all the cattle on a thousand hills, and so much else besides. Even Satan (Job 1 & 2) must ask before he can do evil.

Don't you think an infinite, all-knowing, all-powerful God of Love had/has a better solution to sin than simply casting people into Hell?

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Lazarus Short]

Could the abhorred damned be used as a warning for the rest
of eternity as what happens to those that disobey God?

Does a God of Love really want to rule by fear?

 

[Lazarus Short]

What do you think happens to the wicked angels that will sin and those
that are already being punished? They are used to show God is just.

Don't you know that WE will judge angels? We get to decide.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Lazarus Short]

When was hell created? Jesus Christ was slain from the
foundation of the world. Able would have gone down to paradise...his soul.

True that the saints will judge. Some evil angels have been waiting for
a very long time, yet will not find forgiveness and mercy.

There is no record of Hell's creation in the Scriptures - I looked carefully. Abel only got to Sheol, like everyone else. Life - Death - Sheol - Resurrection - Paradise.
No forgiveness & mercy? We don't know that yet.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Der Alte]

There is no record of Hell's creation in the Scriptures - I looked carefully. Abel only got to Sheol, like everyone else. Life - Death - Sheol - Resurrection - Paradise.
No forgiveness & mercy? We don't know that yet.

Jesus said that the everlasting fire was "prepared."

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:​

 

[Lazarus Short]

When and where do you think evil angels were chained?
John tells us all things were made by Him.

The abyss, IIRC. We don't know much about it. Yes, John did tell us that all things were made by Him, but with no mention of Hell, just like Genesis 1 & 2.