To tell you the truth I do not really know what evangelicals believe. I have never studied under them or read their literature. I study scripture and pit it against what I was taught as an Adventist. Please do not get emotional or angry friend.[QUOTE/]
I feel a bit of contention and ask your forgiveness if I cause it.
So why are you so against Adventism? You do all in your power to "pit your studies against adventist" To me that just does not seem vary loving.
Thanks for the opportunity. I too was told the same thing you have written, but you prophet says differently. I know the SDA church likes to keep hidden much of what Ellen White wrote. the problem is that we all have much of her writings available on the Web. I could fill your mind with things she wrote that are not true. Yes, I have a lot of her false writings organized in my computer documents, so when I write something you can bet it is the truth.
The quotes you sent have nothing to say about losing salvation if we do not keep the sabbath. She, like you and I only teach that if we are convicted of it we should follow the conviction, in all doctrines and principles. Do you think that we can still walk with the Lord while we deny convictions from the Comforter? The Comforter is all we have on our walk of sanctification. When we are converted we do not know everything. In fact we do not even know that some things we do are sins, and that is what the Comforter does to us. He was sent to reprove or convict the world of sin. . .
I am sorry you are wrong. I know it must be a real disappointment to find out that is not really what the church teaches. They have hidden much from the laity.
The SDA denomination cannot hide anything from the laity. It is up to each of us to study to show ourselves approved unto God. We are not to study the church. Ellen White was even against organization as a church. She spoke against what would happen with a president. She calls it kingly powers that the leaders will usurp. Ellen White has all but been banned from the SDA denomination, especially in the theological cemeteries. I take her writings over any church manuals, or questions on doctrine that are just apostate literature.
Sorry, but that is what the church teaches. Even Ellen White didn't know anything about Grace through faith before 1888. I believe it was A.T. Jones that brought the message of grace to the Adventist believers. Even then she never fully understood it and never changed any of her previous writings. Those very same writings are still sold to the Adventist community today. Please understand that she believed she was more than a prophet. Her writings are cannon to SDAs that truly believe in her
Please show me where she actually disagrees with salvation by grace, or writes anything contrary to that. Her writings might be cannon for traditional adventists, but to take a few of her writings, of the 150,000, pages out of context and try as hard as you can to convince people against her is out of line.
While it is very true that SDAs today do not make an issue about the law, it is still in the writings of the revered prophet.. SDAs take a vow to uphold all of the doctrines which include believing in her.
I agree. We USE TO accept her writings as the gift of prophecy as baptismal vows. That has since been removed, but until someone can actually show me from her writings where she disagrees with the bible I will uphold her writings. She does mention the law quite a bit only because in her day there were so many extremes being agitated. The 20th century was one of the most busy times in Christian history. Not only were many denominations formed but modern spiritualism was invented. When God moves, satan moves in conjunction with God's movements to deceive as many as possible with the power he is allowed.
[QOUTE]You certainly do not have to answer this, have you stopped sinning? I have had 81 years to work on my bad habits and I still come short of the glory of God.