Judas was saved and then lost his salvation

[ToBeLoved]

"ἀπωλείας" (Strong 684) can mean "perdition", "loss", "destruction", "ruin",

son means "kinship , child"

Judas was a child of God or son of God as I have shown in many verses . He was a sheep of jesus sent to the lost sheep. This made him a son of God to be a sheep and have eternal life in him once. Perdition meaning ruin or loss etc. Shows he came to ruin and loss and destruction by his departing from God and by falling by transgression.

And as I showed in John 17, the same chapter where the son of perdition is quoted, Jesus said they all ( all 12) belonged to the father in the past. he said "thine they were and thou gavest them to me...

If you belonged to the father then you were a son.

What is the storngs word for son? I only see perdition above.

 

[SeventyOne]

I never said angels were adopted into the family of God. They are already in the family of God. Similar perhaps to Adam and Even before they fell.

Believers will be as the angels of God and there are warnings about the angels to believers if they go similar. This is very obvious. We see them being in a high place with God and still falling, so this is a warning to all who would do similar even though they are in a heavenly places in Christ.

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

"Matthew 24:31
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,

Notice here that the angels are HIS angels, and he sent them. These angels belong to God. To be in this is to be in the Light and life of Christ.The apostles were HIS disciples, apostles sent ones by him, ordained ( called and chosen) and that was all twelve. How much clearer do you need?

"Matthew 25:31
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him..."

Notice that HIS angels are HOLY. To be holy is to be in God. They cannot be HOLY without God and being in the life and light and truth of God. Angels that didn't fall are "of God". Paul calls believers
of God" also.

Satan was once in the truth of God and fell and then iniquity was found in him and he abode ( remained not in the truth). This shows that he was once in Christ in the truth. believers are said to be in Christ and in the truth. Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not inthe truth,..."

When The devil was first crated he was perfect in all his ways and walked with God. This shows clearly that a being can be in the truth and not abide in the truth and go away from God and in doing so fall and end up in the lake of fire one day.

Angels can be good or evil

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Psalm 78:49
He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

The clear warning is if God speared not the angels that sinned then take heed if he spare not you also if you abide not in the faith and in the truth.

We do not depart from God by works so much, but through an evil heart of unbelief (Hebrews 3:12 KJV)



The angels that sinned were still angels, and yet they are going to the lake of fire.
'You miss the point that when the son was out of the fathers house the father said he was "dead". Not still alive as you imply. Yes a son can be a lost son or saved son. In some sense we are all Gods offspring Acts 17. And in Isaiah we read that of Israel specifically, they were all like sheep gone astray. yet not all will be in heaven. So some are lost SHEEP.



This is a classic attack and error of the eternal security camp. To try and make those who teach as my self fit into their works based salvation camp.

We are not saved by works of the flesh or works of the law that we do. it is by grace through faith we are saved. But Go's works on the cross and in us save us and if we do not abide in this work of God in us we are not justified.

Show me your faith without God's Sprit working in you and I'll show you my faith by God's Spirit working in me. As the body without the spirit is dead so faith without Christ in you working is dead.

God's works are always needed as we abide and endure and continue in the faith and continue in the grace unto the end.

A lot of talk, but not saying much. We are not angels, so your comparison falls flat right at the beginning, and pulls down any argument built upon it.

I still appreciate your defense of this works-salvation thread, because your consistency is humorous. First, you call my noticing of the works-salvation aspect as a "classic attack and error". Then you follow it up with this...

But Go's works on the cross and in us save us and if we do not abide in this work of God in us we are not justified.

As long as we continually do something ourselves, we will be saved? Salvation by works. It's almost to the point now if where I think I'm on some kind of prank program. Where are the hidden cameras?

 

[ToBeLoved]

I never said angels were adopted into the family of God. They are already in the family of God. Similar perhaps to Adam and Even before they fell.

What about this thought. That angels like Adam and Eve were created good.

God doesn't create bad things.

 

[SeventyOne]

HE didn't.

I know. It was hyperbole.

 

[LoveofTruth]

A lot of talk, but not saying much. We are not angels, so your comparison falls flat right at the beginning, and pulls down any argument built upon it.

I still appreciate your defense of this works-salvation thread, because your consistency is humorous. First, you call my noticing of the works-salvation aspect as a "classic attack and error". Then you follow it up with this...



As long as we continually do something ourselves, we will be saved? Salvation by works. It's almost to the point now if where I think I'm on some kind of prank program. Where are the hidden cameras?

I never said its our works, but God's work on the cross through Jesus and his work in every believer at the new birth and on..this is all by faith on our part, by faith Christ dwells in our heart. I can do nothing outside of Christ, and there is no flesh to glory in God's presence, but I can DO ALL things through Christ who strengthens me

and read hebrews 3 again. it is by unbelief a believer can depart from the living God

never have a I heard any in your camp answer hebrews three and the truth against your doctrine. Look at vs 1 and vs 12 for starters.

and yes we shall be as the angels of God, i never said we are.

The clarity and warning of angels being with God and of God and sons of God and then they sinned and will end in the lake of fire. Shows that such a thing is possible.

I know that many in the eternal security camp have perhaps never even considered the angels that sinned and how they were perfect beings and good and then they fell and will end in the lake of fire. This is possible. an eternal being good perfect and of God can fall and go to the lake of fire. And as I showed these fallen angels are a warning to believers also not to follow their way in sin against God.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I never said its our works, but God's work on the cross through Jesus and his work in every believer at the new birth and on..this is all by faith on our part, by faith Christ dwells in our heart. I can do nothing outside of Christ, and there is no flesh to glory in God's presence, but I can DO ALL things through Christ who strengthens me

and read hebrews 3 again. it is by unbelief a believer can depart from the living God

never have a I heard any in your camp answer hebrews three and the truth against your doctrine. Look at vs 1 and vs 12 for starters.

and yes we shall be as the angel of God, i never said we are.

The clarity and warning of angels being with God and of God and sons of God and then they sinned and will end in the lake of fire. Shows that such a thing is possible.

I know that many in the eternal security camp have perhaps never even considered the angels that sinned and how they were perfect beings and good and then they fell and will end in the lake of fire. This is possible;e. an eternal being good perfect and of God can fall and go to the lake of fire. And as I showed these fallen angels are a warning to believers also not to follow their way n sin against God.

You need to read Romans 4, 5 and 6 again if you do not think that a saved believer is not fully justified in Christ at salvation. Second Christ doesn't dwell in our heart, the Holy Spirit is who indwells a believer not Christ. Jesus told His disciples, I will ask my Father and He will send to you a Comforter in My Name to teach you truth.

 

[ToBeLoved]

The clarity and warning of angels being with God and of God and sons of God and then they sinned and will end in the lake of fire. Shows that such a thing is possible.

I know that many in the eternal security camp have perhaps never even considered the angels that sinned and how they were perfect beings and good and then they fell and will end in the lake of fire. This is possible;e. an eternal being good perfect and of God can fall and go to the lake of fire. And as I showed these fallen angels are a warning to believers also not to follow their way n sin against God.

Angels do not have or need to have 'faith' in God or Christ because they KNOW God exists. They were in heaven with God.

Now why you would even think that Jesus who was in heaven WITH the angels, would offer the angels repentance like He does us by faith is indeed questionable. God's Word says the demons know God exists and they tremble.

So I wouldn't be using anything about angels and tying it to human beings and salvation. I doubt the angels inherited sin like mankind has from Adam. Or is that the next point that you are going to try to make?

 

[SeventyOne]

I never said its our works, but God's work on the cross through Jesus and his work in every believer at the new birth and on..this is all by faith on our part, by faith Christ dwells in our heart. I can do nothing outside of Christ, and there is no flesh to glory in God's presence, but I can DO ALL things through Christ who strengthens me

and read hebrews 3 again. it is by unbelief a believer can depart from the living God

never have a I heard any in your camp answer hebrews three and the truth against your doctrine. Look at vs 1 and vs 12 for starters.

and yes we shall be as the angel of God, i never said we are.

The clarity and warning of angels being with God and of God and sons of God and then they sinned and will end in the lake of fire. Shows that such a thing is possible.

I know that many in the eternal security camp have perhaps never even considered the angels that sinned and how they were perfect beings and good and then they fell and will end in the lake of fire. This is possible;e. an eternal being good perfect and of God can fall and go to the lake of fire. And as I showed these fallen angels are a warning to believers also not to follow their way n sin against God.

Yes, you did say exactly that it is our works that keep us saved. That's what our needing to make sure we actively abide in Him is. Again, where are the hidden cameras?

I have considered the angels quite a bit and realized we are not angels and are not on the same path as the angels or treated as if we were identical to angels as far as salvation is concerned.

And we have discussed Hebrews 3. To claim still that "never have a I heard any in your camp answer hebrews three and the truth against your doctrine", is disingenuous because I have discussed it with you. This is a claim you can never make again and remain honest about it.

 

[LoveofTruth]

Angels do not have or need to have 'faith' in God or Christ because they KNOW God exists. They were in heaven with God.

Now why you would even think that Jesus who was in heaven WITH the angels, would offer the angels repentance like He does us by faith is indeed questionable. God's Word says the demons know God exists and they tremble.

So I wouldn't be using anything about angels and tying it to human beings and salvation. I doubt the angels inherited sin like mankind has from Adam. Or is that the next point that you are going to try to make?

Maybe you wouldn't use angels as a warning showing a saved person can fall away but the writers of scripture do ,

2 Peter 2:4
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." (Jude 5,6 KJV)

 

[miknik5]

You need to read Romans 4, 5 and 6 again if you do not think that a saved believer is not fully justified in Christ at salvation. Second Christ doesn't dwell in our heart, the Holy Spirit is who indwells a believer not Christ. Jesus told His disciples, I will ask my Father and He will send to you a Comforter in My Name to teach you truth.

HE also said. I will not leave you as orphans

I will come to you

 

[SeventyOne]

Maybe you wouldn't use angels as a warning showing a saved person can fall away but the writers of scripture do ,

2 Peter 2:4
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." (Jude 5,6 KJV)

Did you really just equate scripture about false teachers and prophets to true believers?

 

[LoveofTruth]

Yes, you did say exactly that it is our works that keep us saved. That's what our needing to make sure we actively abide in Him is. Again, where are the hidden cameras?

No I can do nothing outside of Christ. Jesus died for my sins without me, I have nothing in that I cannot save myself. he did the work on the cross and I receive him believing in God's work for me and he come into the believers heart by FAITH, and works in us to will and to do. These works are in Christ and evidence of our being justified by Christ .They are not the salvation intimated. But the evidence of a good tree producing good fruit. A corrupt tree cannot produce such fruit. If we continue to sow to the spirit we shall reap everlasting life, as scripture says. And if while we seek to be justified we ourselves are found sinners is Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

I have considered the angels quite a bit and realized we are not angels and are not on the same path as the angels or treated as if we were identical to angels as far as salvation is concerned.

I never said we are identical to angels here. But the example of angels is used in scripture as a warning to believers and so you must reconsider your entire doctrine. What i am showing by the angels sinning and ending up in the lake of fire, is that a perfect being in all his ways and one who walked with God and was in the truth, fell away from that and did not remain in the truth and will end up in the lake of fire. The argument from your camp have said that once we are with God we can never go away or leave or fall etc. But this is false and many scriptures can be brought to show the error of this. In using Lucifer who fell and will end up with the fallen angels in the lake of fire. i show clearly that they were in the truth and with God and can still be cast down to hell and the lake of fire.

To me there really is no argument against this, it is very self evident. A eternal being perfect in the truth can fall and go to the lake of fire. How much clearer do you need?

And we have discussed Hebrews 3. To claim still that "never have a I heard any in your camp answer hebrews three and the truth against your doctrine", is disingenuous because I have discussed it with you. This is a claim you can never make again and remain honest about it.

Like i said you nor any other has answered the clarity of that section. If I remember you were corrected by my answers but would not admit the truth there. So you have given no answer against your doctrine from Hebrews 3 as i used it to show that your doctrine is not true

 

[LoveofTruth]

Did you really just equate scripture about false teachers and prophets to true believers?

These verses are warnings for all the saints, we read

"...even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."

showing that they once had salvation and were bought by the Lord. peter uses other scriptures similar in this book about those who go away from salvation and are in danger. He says

"20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them." ( 2 Peter 2:20,21 KJV)

 

[SeventyOne]

No I can do nothing outside of Christ. Jesus died for my sins without me, I have nothing in that I cannot save myself. he did the work on the cross and I receive him believing in God's work for me and he come into the believers heart by FAITH, and works in us to will and to do. These works are in Christ and evidence of our being justified by Christ .They are not the salvation intimated. But the evidence of a good tree producing good fruit. A corrupt tree cannot produce such fruit. If we continue to sow to the spirit we shall reap everlasting life, as scripture says. And if while we seek to be justified we ourselves are found sinners is Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Yeah, we've discussed this several times already as well. You don't place works as the thing that gets you "in" with God up front. I've acknowledged that several times, and I'll do it here once more? You put the works in later to maintain salvation. It really doesn't matter where you put them, the works-salvation aspect will exist as long as you keep doing so. If you don't want the works-salvation label attached to what you are saying, then quit saying it.

I never said we are identical to angels here. But the example of angels is used in scripture as a warning to believers and so you must reconsider your entire doctrine. What i am showing by the angels sinning and ending up in the lake of fire, is that a perfect being in all his ways and one who walked with God and was in the truth, fell away from that and did not remain in the truth and will end up in the lake of fire. The argument from your camp have said that once we are with God we can never go away or leave or fall etc. But this is false and many scriptures can be brought to show the error of this. In using Lucifer who fell and will end up with the fallen angels in the lake of fire. i show clearly that they were in the truth and with God and can still be cast down to hell and the lake of fire.

To me there really is no argument against this, it is very self evident. A eternal being perfect in the truth can fall and go to the lake of fire. How much clearer do you need?

So, we are not like the angels, but we are like the angels. Ok.

Like i said you nor any other has answered the clarity of that section. If I remember you were corrected by my answers but would not admit the truth there. So you have given no answer against your doctrine from Hebrews 3 as i used it to show that your doctrine is not true

I wasn't corrected by anything. Nothing you said was accurate.

 

[SeventyOne]

These verses are warnings for all the saints, we read

"...even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction."

sowing that they once had salvation and were bought by the Lord. peter uses other scriptures similar in this book about those who go away from salvation and are in danger. He says

"20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them." ( 2 Peter 2:20,21 KJV)

Peter was the Apostle sent to the Jews, it is to the Jews he speaks. The reference to those Jews who were bought refers to the purchasing of the Jews by God as mentioned in Exodus 15:16. This is not a "they once had salvation" text, this is a reference to the people ethnicity of the people he's addressing.

 

[LoveofTruth]

You need to read Romans 4, 5 and 6 again if you do not think that a saved believer is not fully justified in Christ at salvation.

Your words are Contrary to scripture which says,

Galatians 2:17
But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid."

Yes we are justified by faith and being justified by the Spirit and through the blood and as we abide in Christ and have God working in us we are justified by Gods works for us and in us. If God is working in us we are in the justification and as we abide in this.

Acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses."

notice all that believe, and this belief and continual faith is needed unto the end. If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel.

But now we are getting into the large doctrine of justification. The scriptures say we are justified by grace, faith, the blood, the Spirit, works ( Gods works) , , by your words, and Jesus was raised again for our justification etc

Titus 3:7
That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life."

Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

The word "being" is a continual ongoing word, as I have understood it so far, it does not say "have been", but being. We say things like i am being lead out of the dark forest, or as we abide in Christ and continue in the faith and grace we are being justified . This would be ongoing as long as we abide in him. In him yes, we do have life and are in a right standing with God, but all through continuing in grace and faith etc and as God works in us through faith.

Second Christ doesn't dwell in our heart, the Holy Spirit is who indwells a believer not Christ. Jesus told His disciples, I will ask my Father and He will send to you a Comforter in My Name to teach you truth.

This is not true according to scripture. This is a serious issue here. Jesus said my sheep here my voice and I know them, and today if you hear his voice harden not your hearts. If Christ is not =in you you do not belong to him according to scripture\, Here are some verses to consider

"5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" (2 Cor 13:5 KJV)

"...the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,..."

"...Now if any man have not the Spirit ofChrist, he is none of his." Romans 8:9 KJV)

2 Corinthians 13:3
"Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you."

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."

Colossians 1:27
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:"

"20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you." (Matthew 10:20 KJV)

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you."

"15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."(1 John 4:15 KJV)

Matthew 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"


" Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom....10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." ( Psalsm 51:6,10 KJV in OT)

etc etc etc etc

 

[LoveofTruth]

Yeah, we've discussed this several times already as well. You don't place works as the thing that gets you "in" with God up front. I've acknowledged that several times, and I'll do it here once more? You put the works in later to maintain salvation. It really doesn't matter where you put them, the works-salvation aspect will exist as long as you keep doing so. If you don't want the works-salvation label attached to what you are saying, then quit saying it.

Do you believe that Gods works on the cross and his work in believers at the new birth is needful for salvation? and if we are born again where God is now working in us can any say they have faith and not show forth these works?. I would ask them show me your faith without Gods works manifesting out of your life and i will show you my faith by God's works manifesting out of my life


20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen."

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

1 Thessalonians 2:13
For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe."

can any say they are in God and salvation without this work in them ongoing?

So, we are not like the angels, but we are like the angels.

we shall be like angels as jesus said, and the aspect of being in the light and truth of God and walking with God, was like the fallen angels before they sinned, eternal beings and yet they fell and will end up in the lake of fire and so all those who are likewise will go there as well. Paul warned not to be deceived those who walk in the flesh will not inherit the kingdom of God. if the works of the flesh manifest we are not in the spirit. Galatians 5 and 1 Cor 6:9,10.

 

[LoveofTruth]

Peter was the Apostle sent to the Jews, it is to the Jews he speaks. The reference to those Jews who were bought refers to the purchasing of the Jews by God as mentioned in Exodus 15:16. This is not a "they once had salvation" text, this is a reference to the people ethnicity of the people he's addressing.

OT saints ( thats right SAINTS, godly men) were also saved if they had faith, we read

"how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not."(Jude 5 KJV) / "So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief." (Hebrews 3:19 KJV).

The issue here is belief and the believing not. Or faith and unbelief. This is the example and we are kept by the power of God through faith , we can depart from the living God through unbelief ad hebrews 3 says also referring to the Ot saints in part as an example.

and we read of such things here

"Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant,
how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." (1 Corinthians 10:1,3 KJV)

"28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now." (Galatians 4:28,29 KJV)

 

[miknik5]

What about this thought. That angels like Adam and Eve were created good.

God doesn't create bad things.

Adam and Eve were not angels

They did not initially have their home in Heaven. They still were created after GOD created the world and put a firmament between the waters above and the waters below

Fallen angels forfeited their true home which was in the final and ultimate and continual presence of GOD

This is where we yearn to be

And this is where these (fallen sngels)were

And hell was created for them because they will not have salvation and will never be in HIS PRESENCE ever again

There is one unforgivable sin which will keep a man from entering into the kingdom of GOD

 

[miknik5]

Scripture which spoke of HIS betrayal had to be fulfilled.

And we already know that no one can come to THE SON unless THE FATHER enables it

Which is why it is also written that HE knew who it was that did not believe.

As well that HE chose us

We did not choose HIM

John 8 by the way already shows that these did not believe

And for quoting Romans that if HE did not spare those who grumbled against HIM (talking about men and not angels) Paul was, as always, teaching the believers not to lord it over their unbelieving brothers as if there was no hope for them in believing

Which is why Romans 10 is mentioned
Just as Peter who spoke about the fallen angels being rejected and the time of Noah as well as Sodom
And Gomorrah to show that there will be some saved as well as there will be some who will not be saved

The point being that GOD knows and is able to keep both the godly as well as the ungodly for the day.

Christ's ministry, which we have been called to, is one of reconciling and preaching THE TRUTH that some might believe

While it is still the year of GOD's FAVOR